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Front hub ball joint.

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Just fitted 2 new ball joints. These are the ones from Europarts matched to number plate.  Do all fabia's use the same ball joint as these are not right  as steering jumps. Do Mkll fit mklll as on lots of motor factors my plate shows Mkll when it is a Mklll.  It feels like ball joint is moving in the hub when driving.

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Thanks for your post  but pretty sure there must be 2 different cone sizes as these have side to side movement  in the hub .

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Which manufacturer made them, and what are their part numbers?

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Just found out there are 2 fitments one has a 15mm cone and the other has 18mm  I should have measured before I binned the old ones. 

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Just an update . I had a wheel hub bearing whining,  so did a check to find offside wheel had side to side play so changed the hub bearing new abs sensor as was impossible to remove so drilled out. I had to  replace  the  ball joints  as nuts sheared when removing. Took it for a spin only to find it was the nearside hub bearing that needed replacing even though it has no movement at all. The moral being, check the ball joints first when movement is found when looking for a bad bearing otherwise you may end up replacing a good bearing.  Just waiting for another new hub to fit .

I'm surprised that the front hub ball joint/swivel(s) had started to fail at such a relatively young car if so and along with wheels bearings failing in early life does not sound like that should be happening yet. Which engine does your car have?

 

Edit:- ah sorry, no swivel failure only damaged during removal for wheel bearing replacement.

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One side did have play, that's why I thought it was the noisy bearing, turned out to be the other side.  1.4 tdi . The car has to drive over lots of speed bumps every day the ones that a car has to straddle which can't be good for ball joints .

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On 23/12/2021 at 16:35, htm139 said:

Just an update . I had a wheel hub bearing whining,  so did a check to find offside wheel had side to side play so changed the hub bearing new abs sensor as was impossible to remove so drilled out. I had to  replace  the  ball joints  as nuts sheared when removing. Took it for a spin only to find it was the nearside hub bearing that needed replacing even though it has no movement at all. The moral being, check the ball joints first when movement is found when looking for a bad bearing otherwise you may end up replacing a good bearing.  Just waiting for another new hub to fit .

 

Re-awakening an old thread, I eventually replaced both front bearings on my wife's August 2015 VW Polo 1.2TSI as one of them was getting noisy, so I just bought a cheap Gen2 72mm bearing removal/fitting kit off ebay, it worked okay, but just to be safe, and seeing as others had commented on a forum, that the steel pegs tended or could bend, I bought a set of 5 pegs from a Sealey parts supplier and just guessed that these cheap chinese kits are copies of better ones - that worked! 

On the subject of ABS sensors, I had read in the official VW workshop manual that removing an ABS sensor from a 2015 etc Polo means killing it - just a pity as all or most YouTube videos show these sensors just getting wiggled slightly and out they come intact! Anyway, I sussed out that the removal rear "block" while having a flat machined off to clear the ABS sensor, would need a bit more material removed, so I cut out a narrowish deeper slot, that worked for the left side, and it looks like fitting the bearing has not trashed that ABS sensor, but on the right side, that side was a lot rustier and when that bearing was removed, the nasty lumps of rust caught the "finger" of the ABS sensor and so tilted it over, so I guessed that that ABS sensor had been cracked but still still roughly in one part. I eventually managed to eject that ABS sensor and in doing that, the lower end or "finger" got pulled back into its correct (looking) position before breaking off - so that ABS sensor was now in 2 parts! Really with a view to get that car back together quickly I phone my local Skoda dealer, then are easier to get to than my local VW dealer, and asked the price of a right side front ABS sensor - £95.90, and they do not get stocked! I was not in that much of a hurry to get that car together again so I ordered a Bosch one via ECP, that £56ish, I had already prepared for this eventuality so knew that that same Bosch part would cost £27 + delivery from AutoDoc, but I did not want to wait 8 - 10 days.  While searching on ebay before ordering one, I noticed someone selling an unused left front VW Group ABS sensor, so just in case the left hand side has not survived a bearing change - I bought that one for £9 + delivery  which was roughly £4. So I now know that you can clean out the rusty curd from these ABS sensor bore holes using a 10mm drill bit. 

The bearings that I bought via AutoDoc were FAG and the bearings fitted into that car at initial build were SNR France, so hopefully the FAG bearings last longer than the SNR ones, though the side that seems to have been causing the noise was the rusty side, but these bearings should be able to keep out water I would have thought.

Finally I learned way back in late 2006/early 2007, that if you need to take things apart on these cars (a 2002 VW Polo), you really need a tap and die set that covers all the sizes and threads used on these cars, cleaning up the exposed ends of threads does make removing nuts a lot easier, back in late 2006/early 2007 replacing a front spring took far too long - and then I bought a reasonable tap and die set before changing the other front spring.

 

Edit:- just one other comment or info, the brand or branding of the ABS wheel sensor I ended up breaking on that 2015 VW Polo, was ATE - I had expected that if its brand was shown on it it would be Bosch, not so.

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