Hi All, what would be the best way in lifting a 2019 1.5 tsi octavia technology spec around 50mm higher? I dont plan on doing any serious off-roading but I find my self scraping on some tracks and roads in my area. Would my best bet be to get spacers (levelling kit) or install suspension from a scout model? Thank you. 

Scout will get you circa 15mm higher than normal...

 

Even the Forge lift kit for MQB won't get you that height gain as only 36mm.

 

VW Alltrack/Tiguan Leveling MQB Chassis Lift Kit | FMLFT1 | Forge Overland (forgemotorsport.co.uk)

VW Atlas and Skoda Kodiaq Leveling Lift Kit | FMLFT2 | Forge Overland (forgemotorsport.co.uk)

 

You can retro fit the factory fit reinforced undertray to protect the engine (post number 2) here:-

How to retro-fit skid trays, aerodynamic under trays, & stone guards to a MK7 Golf | GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum

 

 

Edited 3 January, 20224 yr by fabdavrav

At 50mm lift I'd be looking at changing the car if it's a regular requirement. You will massively compromise the normal handling to the point of making it unsafe. The scout ground clearance is a combination of higher suspension and tyres. To get the same from a stock height car you would also be looking at insurance notification. Again you have to think whether it's worth the work for the small occasional (?) benefits.

2 hours ago, fabdavrav said:

Scout will get you circa 15mm higher than normal...

 

Scout springs will raise the ride height by a lot more than 15mm. If you go that route, you would need to match the Scout springs with Scout shock absorbers, usually only available from Skoda...as aftermarket ones tend to be for the far more common standard ride height suspension.

 

Raised ride height and/or heavy duty suspension springs will give you a 15mm increase in ride height. You could use these with standard ride height shock absorbers.

 

Compared to 205/55R16 tyres, 205/70R15 tyres (perhaps fitted to standard Octavia MK3 6Jx15 ET43 steel rims) would raise the ride height by 18.05mm. In combination with 15mm raised ride height springs, you would get a 33.05mm increase in ride height.

 

To use 15" tyres, you would need to check that the diameter of the front brake discs is no more than 288mm. However, it looks likely they will fit the Octavia MK3 1.5 petrol 150HP because Jurid (a brand that sells brake parts) lists the 288mm front brake discs on autodoc as fitting this car.

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/skoda/octavia/octavia-combi-5e5/128420-1-5-tsi?supplier[0]=48&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Uniroyal RainExpert 5 205/70R15 96H

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s2481p208643/Uniroyal_Tyres_Car_Uniroyal_RainExpert_5_SUV_-_205_70_R15_96H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_A_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

There's lots of other tyres in this size, include Vredestein Quatrac 5 and AT (All-Terrain) tyres from Bridgestone, Yokohama, etc.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s2481p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_15_inch_R15_inch_-_205_70_15_205_70R15

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7998p0/All_Season_-_Four_Season_-_All_Weather_-_Car_MPV_Tyres_-_15_inch_R15_inch_-_205_70_15_205_70R15

 

The Octavia Mk3 1.5 petrol 150HP 2WD estate with standard ride height used these front springs or something similar, ie. OEM part numbers 5Q0411105GF, 5Q0411105GG, 5Q0411105GH, or something similar. The 5Q0411105GF and 5Q0411105GG are for the lighter manual gearbox, and the 5Q0411105GH is for the heavier DSG automatic gearbox...at least according to the gknautomotive online coil springs catalogue.

1	5Q0 411 105 GF	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue orange	2
(1)	5Q0 411 105 GG	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue red	2	PR-L02
(1)	5Q0 411 105 GH	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue violet	2	PR-L03

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411030/

 

gknautomotive online coil spring catalogue

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/cars/assigned?assemblyGroupId=100113&targetId=128420&typeNumber=128420&groups=188&brands=1&page=0#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:SKODA%20OCTAVIA%20III%20Combi%20(5E5%2C%205E6)%201.5%20TSI;targetType:cars;targetId:128420;typeNumber:128420/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:128420;typeNumber:128420;groups:188;brands:1;page:0

 

The Octavia MK3 1.5 petrol 150HP 2WD estate with standard ride height uses these rear springs or something similar, ie. OEM part number 5Q0511121AF (it's a weight range 6 rear springs, which is what the 0YF build code in the chart below means). The build code 1JA means that's it standard ride height.

(1)

5Q0 511 121 AF

coil spring

2

PR-1JA+0YF

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/5/511-511000/

Octavia MK3 Rear Springs 2WD

1JA = Rear shock absorption, basic design 1
UC7 = Rear shock absorption, chassis with increased ride height
1JC = Rear shock absorption for sports design

 

VW Codes Decoder

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

Rear Springs OEM part number 5Q0511121BF (15mm increased ride height, weight range 6)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0511121bf?search=OEN 5Q0511121BF

 

Eibach R10793 (matching OEM part number 5Q0511121BF)

https://www.ebay.de/itm/284223888393?hash=item422d105c09:g:328AAOSwHtxgUxnkhttps://www.ebay.de/itm/284223888393?hash=item422d105c09:g:328AAOSwHtxgUxnk

 

Edited 3 January, 20224 yr by Carlston

You really know the difference in height when measuring the change in the difference the roof is from the ground compared to before the modifications. 

Lots of the figures, calculations and all the rest are just that.

You go to the expense and the actual clearance of the parts scraping on the ground is the difference from Ooo and Ahh.  A ba's hair  really. 

 

Much cheapness.

'Spring Spacers'.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/500267-yeti-big-tyres-and-20mm-lift/page/2

 

 

 

Edited 3 January, 20224 yr by roottoot

3 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

Scout springs will raise the ride height by a lot more than 15mm.

 

 

I was looking at the VW info for the MK7 Golf "raised" suspension (also listed as the Rough Road Package, 15mm ride increase, in the Skoda brochure). Anyway the MK3 Octavia Scout is stated (in the 2015 brochure) as having 31mm more clearance than the "normal" Octavia suspension at kerb weight.

 

However, please remember that the Scout gets taller tyres with a bigger overall rolling radius....at 225/50R17...where as the normal cars get 205/50R16, 225/45R17, or 225/40R18...this making up some of the stated 31mm difference...

I would look at a different car that is higher as standard.

These springs should be about right for an Octavia MK3 1.5 petrol 150HP estate with 2WD to give a 15mm raised ride height. Compare the specifications on autodoc with the standard ride height springs. Stiffer springs won't compress as much, so you need to add about 3mm to the uncompressed spring length for every 0.25mm increase in wire diameter thickness. So if a replacement spring that is 9mm longer when uncompressed and has a 0.75mm increase in wire diameter thickness, will give an increase in unladen ride height of about 15mm.

 

Front springs with 15mm increase in ride height 5Q0411105HN

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105hn?search=OEN+5Q0411105HN

Kilen 23132 5Q0411105HN

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353523621748?epid=249508912&hash=item524fa65f74%3Ag%3A0nAAAOSw-S1guy8P&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

Rear springs with 15mm increase in ride height 5Q0511121BG

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0511121bg?search=OEN+5Q0511121BG

Kilen 63541 5Q0511121BG

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393537924846?epid=4050207744&hash=item5ba0b02eee:g:aeYAAOSwxwhhKnZH

 

Rear springs with 15mm increase in ride height 5N0511115C

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5n0511115c?

Kilen 50239 5N0511115C

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334258323087?hash=item4dd3593e8f%3Ag%3AMjkAAOSwwrRhvJsv&LH_ItemCondition=1000

 

5Q0511121BG has an 11.75mm wire diameter, and 5N0511115C has a 12.00mm wire diameter. This makes the 5N0511115C version about 5% stiffer than the 5Q0511121BG version.

 

I would use the softer 5Q0511121BG version rear springs with an Octavia MK3 1.5 petrol 150HP estate with DSG automatic gearbox, and the harder 5N0511115C version rear springs with an Octavia MK3 1.5 petrol 150HP estate with manual gearbox.

 

The ride height should increase by about 20mm on the DSG automatic gearbox car, and about 25mm on the manual gearbox car. As the springs are now about 10% to 15% stiffer the effective ride height should increase by about 50mm when fitted with the bigger outside diameter tyres, as the suspension compresses less, ie. 20mm/25mm + 18mm + 7mm-12mm = 50mm.

 

The standard ride height front bump stops are 70mm thickness. These need to be changed to 85mm if fitting 15mm raised ride height springs. You can see the OEM part number on the Skoda online parts catalogue.

 

85mm front shock absorber bump stop for 15mm raised ride height 5Q0412303

3

5Q0 412 303

rubber stop for shock absorber

85MM

2

 

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411002/

 

The rear suspension with 15mm increased ride height uses the the same thickness stop buffer as the standard ride height rear suspension. So unlike the front stop buffer, no change is needed on the rear when changing from standard ride height to 15mm increased ride height.

 

(9)

5Q0 511 357 F

stop buffer

133MM

2

PR-UC7,1JA

 

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/5/511-511000/

 

Edited 4 January, 20224 yr by Carlston

13 hours ago, willwn said:

Hi All, what would be the best way in lifting a 2019 1.5 tsi octavia technology spec around 50mm higher? I dont plan on doing any serious off-roading but I find my self scraping on some tracks and roads in my area. Would my best bet be to get spacers (levelling kit) or install suspension from a scout model? Thank you. 

 

Does your car have a manual or DSG automatic gearbox?

 

The DSG automatic gearbox is significantly heavier than the manual gearbox. Therefore different front springs are used.

A DQ200 DSG is not significantly heavier than manual box.  Check the weights.   VW said they were then built 2015 Polo GTI 1.8 TSI 192 ps  manuals and 7 Speed DQ200 DSG,s.   Check the kerb weights.  Check the performance of the manual with 320 Nm and the DSG with 250 Nm. Check the clearance VW give in the official figures.  Check the springs and dampers fitted.   But then always take VW figures and weights with a pinch of salt. 

 

1 hour ago, roottoot said:

A DQ200 DSG is not significantly heavier than manual box.  Check the weights.   VW said they were then built 2015 Polo GTI 1.8 TSI 192 ps  manuals and 7 Speed DQ200 DSG,s.   Check the kerb weights.  Check the performance of the manual with 320 Nm and the DSG with 250 Nm. Check the clearance VW give in the official figures.  Check the springs and dampers fitted.   But then always take VW figures and weights with a pinch of salt.

 

The main point is that the aftermarket spring manufacturers (and Skoda) supply stiffer front springs for the DSG automatic gearbox than the manual gearbox. You can check that for Optimal, Sachs, Spidan, and Suplex on autodoc.

 

As you can see in the links below, the standard ride height front springs for the manual gearbox have a wire thickness of 11.5mm, and for the DSG gearbox it's 11.75mm.

 

Optimal

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/coil-springs-10213/skoda/octavia/octavia-combi-5e5/128420-1-5-tsi?supplier[0]=32&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Sachs

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/coil-springs-10213/skoda/octavia/octavia-combi-5e5/128420-1-5-tsi?supplier[0]=129&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Spidan

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/coil-springs-10213/skoda/octavia/octavia-combi-5e5/128420-1-5-tsi?supplier[0]=1&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Suplex

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/coil-springs-10213/skoda/octavia/octavia-combi-5e5/128420-1-5-tsi?supplier[0]=10708&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Edited 4 January, 20224 yr by Carlston

My main point is the word 'Significant'.  

 

We can leave all checking to you.   

 Can i ask again what you do as a job and does it involve mechanical engineering or tyre fitting?

17 hours ago, Carlston said:

Scout springs will raise the ride height by a lot more than 15mm.

 

Depending on final weight kerb weight of car (gearbox, trim, engine, etc.) MQB platform Scout springs will NOT raise the car on "Normal suspension" more than the "nominal" 15mm as I previously stated.

 

The “Raised Suspension” as fitted to the MKIII Octavia Scout is also part of the “Rough Road Package” & only increases the ride height by a nominal 15mm. The MKIII Octavia Scout gains an additional nominal 13mm ride height by being fitted with larger diameter tyres compared to the “Normal” spec Octavia’s. Detailed explanation below:-

 

Skoda in their UK 2015 brochure for the MKIII Octavia, state ground clearance for the Estate at "kerb weight" of:-

171mm for Scout,

140mm for Normal,

125mm for Sports,

139mm for 4x4 (non-Scout),

127mm for vRS,

 

The factory fitted optional extra of "Rough Road Package" raises the ride height by a nominal 15mm & is stated as being factory fit to the Scout & an optional extra only on certain listed cars with "Normal" suspension (S, SE, SE-L), therefore a clearance of 155mm at kerb weight.

 

Conversely, the factory optional extra of "Sports suspension" lowers the ride height by a nominal 15mm & is stated as being factory fit to the vRS & an optional extra only on certain listed cars with "Normal" suspension (SE-L & L&K in this case & not 4x4), therefore a clearance of 125mm at kerb weight.

 

However, one has to take into account the factory fit wheels when the above ground clearances were measured.

 

The factory fitted wheels are as follows:-

205/55R16 = S, SE, SE-L 

225/45R17 = SE-L optional extra

225/50R17 = Scout

225/40R18 = L&K, vRS, & SE optional extra

 

The "standard" diameter of the above tyres are as follows:-

205/55R16 = 632mm

225/45R17 = 635mm

225/50R17 = 658mm

225/40R18 = 638mm

 

Therefore, we can conclude that the Scout’s 31mm increase in ride height is gained as follows according to the Skoda brochure:-

A nominal 15mm from Rough Road Package suspension

A nominal 13mm from larger diameter/taller tyres

Totalling 28mm, leaving 3mm as unaccounted for, but most likely variations in gearbox/trim final kerb weight, & tyre brand/tread depth variations.

 

Please remember that the Scout, 4x4, vRS & L&K models have the multi-link rear suspension...the others all have the Torsion beam rear suspension. 

 

Also remember that you CANNOT increase the spring height (distance between body & wheel hub) too much otherwise you have problems with the C.V. joints on the drive axles as the engine, subframes, gearbox, bevel box, etc. are fixed to the body, & therefore the angles from them (gearbox, rear bevel box) to the wheel hubs become steeper.

 

Here is a screenshot from the ERWIN self-study guide on the MQB platform Golf, which is what the MKIII Octavia is.

 

 

Edited 4 January, 20224 yr by fabdavrav
added photo

Worth looking at roof height excluding roof rails or include roof rails if all have them.

 

Reason being 'Underbody protection'.

That affect Ground Clearance as per VW Group / Skoda figures.   Like with Greenlines in the past. 

The Clearance numbers were low, the tyres brought the car lower as did plastic panels.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/452062-why-is-my-octavia-combi-so-high

 

Yet you compare the roof height and it might not be 15 mm, 10mm or what ever lower.

This is the same with Scala & Kamiq where different countries had different magazines and reviewers testing cars and mentioning clearance or suspension. 

They were even testing cars with standard suspension and talking about the optional suspension which the vehicles they had did not have fitted.

Edited 4 January, 20224 yr by roottoot

My Australian spec 2014 mk3 1.4tsi estate has a nominal 150mm of ground clearance and I have done quite a few k's on various dirt roads, so I'm almost surprised that a London based standard Octavia needs more ground clearance.

 

For example:

 

Roads onto UK farms can be rather different with fences either side and a hump in the middle.

Even boulders / stones on the yump that even softroaders might be able to get along.

 

Then there are speed bumps that there are the likes of Superb Drivers asking if the can raise the suspension of there taxi to go over them faster.

3 minutes ago, roottoot said:

Worth looking at roof height excluding roof rails or include roof rails if all have them.

 

Reason being 'Underbody protection'.

That affect Ground Clearance as per VW Group / Skoda figures.   Like with Greenlines in the past. 

The Clearance numbers were low, the tyres brought the car lower as did plastic panels.

 

Yet you compare the roof height and it might not be 15 mm, 10mm or what ever lower.

This is the same with Scala & Kamiq where different countries had different magazines and reviewers testing cars and mentioning clearance or suspension. 

They were even testing cars with standard suspension and talking about the optional suspension which the vehicles they had did not have fitted.

 

MKIII Octavia estate O/A height stated as

Standard without roof rails = 1465mm

Scout with roof rails = 1531mm

 

Height of loading sill at kerb weight:-

Standard = 631mm

Scout = 667mm

 

the above adding up to the +15mm suspension & +13mm from tyre increase & angle of car..

 

Just now, Gerrycan said:

My Australian spec 2014 mk3 1.4tsi estate has a nominal 150mm of ground clearance and I have done quite a few k's on various dirt roads, so I'm almost surprised that a London based standard Octavia needs more ground clearance.

 

 

Your countries importer (as other countries do) might spec the "raised suspension +15mm" factory option as default for all the MKIII Octavia's. Therefore a nominal 155mm clearance.

And after all that discussion the best way is to buy another vehicle with raised clearance as standard.

41 minutes ago, Ecomatt said:

And after all that discussion the best way is to buy another vehicle with raised clearance as standard.

 

Haha...

 

TBH though my MK7 Golf estate is on factory -15mm sports suspension & I retro-fitted the reinforced skid tray from the "Rough Road package" which actually reduces the clearance under the engine bay area...so I now only have circa 110mm to 115mm at the lowest point which is actually near the wheel arch.

 

I live in the north of Scotland & have driven my car down some interesting so called "roads"....& some of my friends have "driveways"...no...scub that.... tracks i.e. two tyre lanes & a grassy hump in the middle much like a Landrover track....& so far (touch wood) I've not scratched or scrapped the underside.

 

If the OP is worried about his Octavia which appears to be on standard normal suspension, which is +15mm higher than mine, he should retro fit the correct factory option of "Raised Suspension +15mm & Rough Road package" for his car..this giving him an additional 30mm clearance compared to mine (+15mm more than he currently has) & a reinforced front skid tray!

 

If he's really worried he should retrofit the Scout spec bigger diameter tyres, this giving a further 13mm increase in clearance.

 

All nice & simple & still within the MQB platform design specs & options for his MKIII Octavia.

 

P.S. if that's still not enough the OP should be looking at a Landy or similar with "Portal hubs".....

Edited 4 January, 20224 yr by fabdavrav
info

11 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

Does your car have a manual or DSG automatic gearbox?

 

The DSG automatic gearbox is significantly heavier than the manual gearbox. Therefore different front springs are used.

its a 6 speed manual box 

3 hours ago, Gerrycan said:

My Australian spec 2014 mk3 1.4tsi estate has a nominal 150mm of ground clearance and I have done quite a few k's on various dirt roads, so I'm almost surprised that a London based standard Octavia needs more ground clearance.

 

For example:

 

yeah its not actually London based anymore, when I joined the forums it was. now based in Exmoor- deepest darkest Somerset UK

4 hours ago, fabdavrav said:

 

Depending on final weight kerb weight of car (gearbox, trim, engine, etc.) MQB platform Scout springs will NOT raise the car on "Normal suspension" more than the "nominal" 15mm as I previously stated.

 

The “Raised Suspension” as fitted to the MKIII Octavia Scout is also part of the “Rough Road Package” & only increases the ride height by a nominal 15mm. The MKIII Octavia Scout gains an additional nominal 13mm ride height by being fitted with larger diameter tyres compared to the “Normal” spec Octavia’s. Detailed explanation below:-

 

Skoda in their UK 2015 brochure for the MKIII Octavia, state ground clearance for the Estate at "kerb weight" of:-

171mm for Scout,

140mm for Normal,

125mm for Sports,

139mm for 4x4 (non-Scout),

127mm for vRS,

 

The factory fitted optional extra of "Rough Road Package" raises the ride height by a nominal 15mm & is stated as being factory fit to the Scout & an optional extra only on certain listed cars with "Normal" suspension (S, SE, SE-L), therefore a clearance of 155mm at kerb weight.

 

Conversely, the factory optional extra of "Sports suspension" lowers the ride height by a nominal 15mm & is stated as being factory fit to the vRS & an optional extra only on certain listed cars with "Normal" suspension (SE-L & L&K in this case & not 4x4), therefore a clearance of 125mm at kerb weight.

 

However, one has to take into account the factory fit wheels when the above ground clearances were measured.

 

The factory fitted wheels are as follows:-

205/55R16 = S, SE, SE-L 

225/45R17 = SE-L optional extra

225/50R17 = Scout

225/40R18 = L&K, vRS, & SE optional extra

 

The "standard" diameter of the above tyres are as follows:-

205/55R16 = 632mm

225/45R17 = 635mm

225/50R17 = 658mm

225/40R18 = 638mm

 

Therefore, we can conclude that the Scout’s 31mm increase in ride height is gained as follows according to the Skoda brochure:-

A nominal 15mm from Rough Road Package suspension

A nominal 13mm from larger diameter/taller tyres

Totalling 28mm, leaving 3mm as unaccounted for, but most likely variations in gearbox/trim final kerb weight, & tyre brand/tread depth variations.

 

Please remember that the Scout, 4x4, vRS & L&K models have the multi-link rear suspension...the others all have the Torsion beam rear suspension. 

 

Also remember that you CANNOT increase the spring height (distance between body & wheel hub) too much otherwise you have problems with the C.V. joints on the drive axles as the engine, subframes, gearbox, bevel box, etc. are fixed to the body, & therefore the angles from them (gearbox, rear bevel box) to the wheel hubs become steeper.

 

Here is a screenshot from the ERWIN self-study guide on the MQB platform Golf, which is what the MKIII Octavia is.

 

 

I really like this idea, my Skoda needs new tyres anyway as the factory fitted ones are hopeless anywhere near grass and the tread Is a bit worn. as mentioned above its the 2019 estate 1.5tsi (150) HP model. its the Technology spec (fleet spec). so to get a bit more ride height could I fit tyres with a taller side wall then the standard ones to get some more clearance? and if so any idea how far I could go before I start running into issues with tyres rubbing on the Frames etc. Thanks 

4 hours ago, roottoot said:

My main point is the word 'Significant'.  

 

We can leave all checking to you.   

 Can i ask again what you do as a job and does it involve mechanical engineering or tyre fitting?

I'm training to be a rural surveyor, so minimal Experience in that field. come to think of it 50mm is ambitious to say the least 

4 minutes ago, willwn said:

I really like this idea, my Skoda needs new tyres anyway as the factory fitted ones are hopeless anywhere near grass and the tread Is a bit worn. as mentioned above its the 2019 estate 1.5tsi (150) HP model. its the Technology spec (fleet spec). so to get a bit more ride height could I fit tyres with a taller side wall then the standard ones to get some more clearance? and if so any idea how far I could go before I start running into issues with tyres rubbing on the Frames etc. Thanks 

 

 

What alloy size are you running currently??..the Scout spec is 17inch alloys..

 

Remember that the Scout spec larger tyres are in conjunction with +15mm raised suspension option......so if you just fit the tyres you might get rubbing in certain conditions (load, steering lock etc).

 

 

Just now, fabdavrav said:

 

 

What alloy size are you running currently??..the Scout spec is 17inch alloys..

 

Remember that the Scout spec larger tyres are in conjunction with +15mm raised suspension option......so if you just fit the tyres you might get rubbing in certain conditions (load, steering lock etc).

 

 

currently running the base spec 16inch wheels