Morning all,

 

We have a Silver Karoq 1.5 SE Drive which came with 17" Braga wheels in silver and black, which quite frankly I hate! (picture at the bottom of the post).

 

Originally, I planned to spray the Braga wheels in gunemtal grey however I am now thinking maybe the 17" wheels look a bit too small for the car.

 

My second option was to buy some bigger aftermarket wheels in the colour of choice however this is looking a lot more costly with tyres on top.

 

I've tried some google searches and even looking through the Karoq picture thread however I can't seem to find many pictures with aftermarket / sprayed OEM wheels (specifically Braga). If any members have some to hand, please could you post them for a bit of inspiration!

 

Thanks in advance

 

James

You could try your local alloy wheel repair specialist.

They may have colours that appeal to you.

Remember the Karoq has flattened (squarer) wheel arches, whatever size wheel is in there will never fill it

 

Have a look at this brochure, plenty of different Karoq wheels (with their part number codes) listed

 

https://www.skoda-auto.de/_doc/d2d2b64a-e915-4ae4-b9d1-785a20123fa1
 

 

17 minutes ago, Toolie said:

You could try your local alloy wheel repair specialist.

They may have colours that appeal to you.

Just had a quote for the wheels for £398 which would be done in the same day. I have a friend who can get them cheaper but requires him spraying other parts of the car meaning the car would be there for a few days (we have a 15 month old and can’t be without the car for that long).

8 minutes ago, SurreyJohn said:

Remember the Karoq has flattened (squarer) wheel arches, whatever size wheel is in there will never fill it

 

Have a look at this brochure, plenty of different Karoq wheels (with their part number codes) listed

 

https://www.skoda-auto.de/_doc/d2d2b64a-e915-4ae4-b9d1-785a20123fa1
 

 

Ahh thanks for this, this is really useful!

Not only for wheels but for other items I need to order too! Appreciate the arches are big but 17 inch just looks a tad too small compared to other Karoqs I’ve seen with 18\19 inch wheels!

Larger alloys mean thinner tyres so your wheel arches are just going to have the same space. But one piece of advice, your 15mth old will like those 17" rims more than anything bigger. We have the 19" std wheels on our Karoq and whilst the alloy itself is bigger, you feel every little bump in the road. They're much more noisy as well. Tyres are way more expensive too and the range is limited.

9 minutes ago, kodiaqsportline said:

Larger alloys mean thinner tyres so your wheel arches are just going to have the same space. But one piece of advice, your 15mth old will like those 17" rims more than anything bigger. We have the 19" std wheels on our Karoq and whilst the alloy itself is bigger, you feel every little bump in the road. They're much more noisy as well. Tyres are way more expensive too and the range is limited.

Thanks for the info mate. I’m not bothered by the space of the arch (I think someone commented about that above and I just simply replied), I dislike the smaller wheels as the wheels just look a bit too small against the car itself, especially considering I’m running 16s on my mk1 VRS.

 

Appreciate the real information about 19s though, if I’m honest I never even give ride quality of cost of tyres a thought! Maybe I will stick with the Braga’s after all!

 

Any pictures of sprayed Skoda wheels would be appreciated 😊 

10 hours ago, Jamesmaher63 said:

Thanks for the info mate. I’m not bothered by the space of the arch (I think someone commented about that above and I just simply replied), I dislike the smaller wheels as the wheels just look a bit too small against the car itself, especially considering I’m running 16s on my mk1 VRS.

 

Appreciate the real information about 19s though, if I’m honest I never even give ride quality of cost of tyres a thought! Maybe I will stick with the Braga’s after all!

 

Any pictures of sprayed Skoda wheels would be appreciated 😊 

Hi @Jamesmaher63

I have sent you a private message regarding a set of 18’s

19 hours ago, kodiaqsportline said:

We have the 19" std wheels on our Karoq and whilst the alloy itself is bigger, you feel every little bump in the road. They're much more noisy as well. Tyres are way more expensive too and the range is limited.

 

I was a bit concerned when ordering my Karoq Sport Line with 19" wheels after reading forum feedback on drive comfort and bumps in the road. However, in the first month of owning the car I honestly haven't noticed any issues with the ride, comfort or handling. Given what you say about expense and range though, I think if I was choosing again I might opt for 18".

 

When I was reading up about tyres I found this UK tyre comparison video quite useful.

 

 

Cheers
PJ

 

 

 

On 08/01/2022 at 15:06, P-J said:

 

I was a bit concerned when ordering my Karoq Sport Line with 19" wheels after reading forum feedback on drive comfort and bumps in the road. However, in the first month of owning the car I honestly haven't noticed any issues with the ride, comfort or handling. Given what you say about expense and range though, I think if I was choosing again I might opt for 18".

 

When I was reading up about tyres I found this UK tyre comparison video quite useful.

 

 

Cheers
PJ

 

 

 

very nice find I've seen it before  and partialyexplains why MY21 SeL are on 18s instead of the old models 19

On 08/01/2022 at 15:06, P-J said:

 

I was a bit concerned when ordering my Karoq Sport Line with 19" wheels after reading forum feedback on drive comfort and bumps in the road. However, in the first month of owning the car I honestly haven't noticed any issues with the ride, comfort or handling. Given what you say about expense and range though, I think if I was choosing again I might opt for 18".

 

 

The bigger wheels (with thinner tyres) might suit a keen driver, but that doesn’t mean it’s better for anyone sitting in the back.

 

If it is a family car (and why buy one of these if it going to be solely used by one person) then you should consider everyone that will be expected to travel in it at some time, from young children to aged parents.   The smaller wheels will generally make it more absorbent of poor road surfaces (which seem to exist in certain parts of the country)

 

Currently on my 16” winter wheels and the ride is limousine like compared to the adequate ride on the standard 19” wheels. (But so much better than my previous previous Yetis on their 17” though!)

No real noticeable difference in handling though between the 16” and the 19” with much wider tyres at comfortable road speeds in corners.

Low profile tyre weren't invented until 1968 when Dunlop brought out the 70 series tyre, and the Jaguar E-Type had their 185/80R15 tyres upgraded to 205/70R15.

 

The basic 16" Karoq tyre size is 215/60R16, and this is an upgrade to the 205/70R15 tyre size, as 205/70R15 and 215/60R16 have the same outside diameter and are interchangeable.

 

Therefore, I'm not surprised Ken is finding his "basic" 16" Karoq tyres rather good...they certainly aren't low performance. The Jaguar E-Type would have loved them.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_E-Type#/media/File:Jaguar_E-Type_series_1_coupé_1964.jpg

 

Edited 12 January, 20224 yr by Carlston

20 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

Currently on my 16” winter wheels and the ride is limousine like compared to the adequate ride on the standard 19” wheels. (But so much better than my previous previous Yetis on their 17” though!)

No real noticeable difference in handling though between the 16” and the 19” with much wider tyres at comfortable road speeds in corners.

I prefer the 16 inch with 60 profile winter tyres to the 18 inch with 45 profile standard summer tyres on my Arona too.  Once I changed back last April I really noticed how roughly the 18s feel in comparison, as they pick up every ripple in poorly laid tarmac which the 16s absorb.

 

To my mind, those E Type wheels & tyre proportions look right, much better than modern low profile tyres on 19" wheels.  A much later car, my old BMW 323 5 series of the mid 1990s vintage had similar proportioned wheels/tyres to that Jag, from what I recall, but lower profile tyres were beginning to creep in to slightly later faster models of same body shape.

 

Out of interest, Surrey John & kenfowler, what tyres do you have on those 16" wheels, you've probably indicated before but if so, I can't remember.  I'm bearing in mind a comment on that video P_J linked to - ride / handling differences between tyre makes / models is rather greater than so with small changes in tyre profile of the same tyre model.

Dunlop winter sport 215/60R16.

Now on 5th winter, 3 on Yeti and 2nd in progress on my Karoq, still loads of tread left.

Rolling radius is slightly less than the standard 19” tyres, so I have to make allowance with speedo.

Standard tyres speedo read is 73mph at a true 70, whilst winter wheels are reading 76 at a true 70.

@croquemonsieur my 16 inch winter tyres on my Arona are Goodyear ultragrip 9+ 

seem to wear very slowly, currently on 3rd winter, probably going to be good for another 4 or 5 years

For info : Arona (like Kamiq and T-cross) have 215/45 R18 as standard, my winters are 205/60 R16 which have virtually identical outside diameter (3mm difference, or 1.5mm of tread wear)

 

Edited 12 January, 20224 yr by SurreyJohn

Thanks for the information.  Posts help firm up my intention to change to 16" wheels, in spring (from 17"), when the car will be getting on for 3yrs old.  As noted in another thread a few weeks ago, I'm still looking at Hancock All Weather tyres as a permanent year round fitment, if they're available in the right size.

3 hours ago, croquemonsieur said:

Thanks for the information.  Posts help firm up my intention to change to 16" wheels, in spring (from 17"), when the car will be getting on for 3yrs old.  As noted in another thread a few weeks ago, I'm still looking at Hancock All Weather tyres as a permanent year round fitment, if they're available in the right size.

 

The only trouble with Hancock tyres is they only last half an hour.

I think you should be careful as the 16” wheels on a Karoq are specified only for winter tyres. You should probably stick to the original size for summer tyres or all season tyres for insurance reasons. I don’t think any uk Karoq is supplied on 16” wheels.

At the least confirm with your insurance company first, and consider the impact when selling it on unless you store the original ones to put back on.

2 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

I think you should be careful as the 16” wheels on a Karoq are specified only for winter tyres.

 

Most all-season tyres have the 3PMSF (3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake) symbol marked on their sidewalls.

 

Having the 3PMSF symbol is the technical definition of a winter tyre.

 

In the photo below, you can see the 3PMSF symbol. It's the triangle shaped symbol, with the 3 peaks.

 

Winter Tyres 3PMSF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_tire

 

 

Edited 14 January, 20224 yr by Carlston

2 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

I think you should be careful as the 16” wheels on a Karoq are specified only for winter tyres. You should probably stick to the original size for summer tyres or all season tyres for insurance reasons. I don’t think any uk Karoq is supplied on 16” wheels.

I think the 16" reference is more to do with the combination of Winter Tyres AND snow chains.

Pre facelift I am sure that the S (and possibly SE option) could be supplied with 16" rims.

16's were certainly a Skoda accessory option.

Looking inside the fuel flap there are pressure values for 16,17,18 and 19" rims.

 

Back in 2012 when I purchased a new Yeti this was the same problem. The SEL came with 17's whilst the S and SE came with 16's.

A group of Briskoda members managed to get the factory to accept 'special order' variations whereby we could have SEL's with the wheels we wanted.

 

Looking at other countries' configurators the 16" wheel is often an option.

So it would seem there is no 'mechanical / design' reason why the 16 is not a permitted option.

I think it is more of a 'marketing' decision, although in recent years wheel size has had an impact on RFL rates.

 

My insurance company had no qualms about me replacing the 18's that it was supplied with for the 16's provided that the replacements are approved (TUV) and are of the correct dimensions in respect of stud spacing, ET, J value etc etc.

 

I am sure you are right about the size needed for snow chains which restricts the 16” to 6.5j max (I recall the Yeti was 7j specified and hence could only have chains on rear wheels so only benefited 4wd cars)

Luckily when I bought my wheels for the Yeti they supplied 6.5j which turned out to be correct for Karoq.

There are no mechanical issues with this tyre size, I am just aware of how slippery insurance companies are when dealing with a claim and will use any excuse to avoid paying out.

Personally though I think the ride on 19” is acceptable and a lot better than my Yetis on 17”, surely the Karoq on 17” is good enough and a costly change to 16” a bit pointless just to get a very marginal improvement in ride quality whilst at the same time making it harder to sell on later?

It all gets lost in translation.  Especially UK English.

 

Most if not actually all with a few exceptions vehicles arrive in the UK with All Season / All Weather tyres, that is Summer / ECO tyres that the lease cars might stay on in All Seasons / All Weathers for 3 years which will be 4 seasons 3 times.

 

Some will arrive with Winter Certificated All Weather / All Season tyres but those are few and far between.  Some will have All Terrain Tyres, 

Few will be on Snow Tyres.  

 

So the long and the short is UK Insurers do not specify when Winter is in the UK or parts of the UK and the Government has never had the Law / Legislation or the Highway code specify when or where Summer or Winter Tyres might be used or not used.

There is nothing in any insurance policy about 'Seasonal tyres',   so we come down to Type Approval and really asking Insurance Brokers and Underwriters who are as confused by that as people on Social Media. 

 

PS

UK - Tyres,  other places / world regions, languages then Tires.   

If reading Tires then do not assume that the term used to describe, All Season, All Weather, All Terrain, Summer, Wet Weather, Snow etc is as might be relevant in the UK / GB & Northern Ireland.

Edited 14 January, 20224 yr by roottoot

43 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

I am sure you are right about the size needed for snow chains which restricts the 16” to 6.5j max (I recall the Yeti was 7j specified and hence could only have chains on rear wheels so only benefited 4wd cars)

Luckily when I bought my wheels for the Yeti they supplied 6.5j which turned out to be correct for Karoq.

There are no mechanical issues with this tyre size, I am just aware of how slippery insurance companies are when dealing with a claim and will use any excuse to avoid paying out.

Personally though I think the ride on 19” is acceptable and a lot better than my Yetis on 17”, surely the Karoq on 17” is good enough and a costly change to 16” a bit pointless just to get a very marginal improvement in ride quality whilst at the same time making it harder to sell on later?

 

The only 16" rim size approved by Skoda for the Karoq is 6Jx16 ET43.

 

The only 16" rim size approved by Skoda for the Karoq is 7Jx16 ET45.

 

It sounds like you have been driving around on rims with a different width and/or offset to the approved sizes.

 

The ride quality on 215/60R16 tyres fitted to relatively narrow 6J rims should be much better than 215/55R17 tyres fitted to relatively wide 7J rims. Relative rim width has a significant effect on ride quality, because the sidewalls of a tyre fitted to a relatively narrower rim flex more easily.

 

Edited 14 January, 20224 yr by Carlston