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My 2020 Superb Sportline Estate is the first car I've owned without a full size spare. Instead it came with a foam spray can thingy. Time to put that right...

Vega 19" wheel purchased and 235x40 tyre fitted...

Only it doesn't fit in the spare tyre recess under the boot!

Out comes the angle grinder to cut the plastic on the inside of the boot lid and in it pops.

Only the recess isn't deep enough and the wheel sticks out around 25mm.

Next job is to put a double layer of 12mm ply with some damping under the boot liner. No probs to do that.

 

Can anyone please advise the correct spare wheel holder screw and where to get it. Also looking for recommendations for a suitable jack and wrench. Cheers

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A simple forum search would of saved you a lot of pain and hassle.🤪

 

It’s been covered many times and that’s why the car doesn’t come with a full size spare as there is simply no room for it

 

a half size spare kit with the 18 inch wheel would of been a better option as it comes as a kit and fits without issue and comes with the jack and everything else.

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24 minutes ago, ApertureS said:

A simple forum search would of saved you a lot of pain and hassle.🤪

 

It’s been covered many times and that’s why the car doesn’t come with a full size spare as there is simply no room for it

 

a half size spare kit with the 18 inch wheel would of been a better option as it comes as a kit and fits without issue and comes with the jack and everything else.

You're probably right - but I want a full size spare as that's what I've always had and to me there's a safety / performance issue with using a wheel half the size of what the car has been designed for

If you put the wheel in the other way up, the only thing touching the metalwork will be the tyre itself and you won't need a screw to hold it in place. The other benefit is that it will be an awful lot easier to grab the spokes and heave the wheel out when necessary. Your Skoda dealer will be able to supply a jack and wrench, although probably not at the lowest price1

1 hour ago, Sossages said:

You're probably right - but I want a full size spare as that's what I've always had and to me there's a safety / performance issue with using a wheel half the size of what the car has been designed for

There isn’t really a safety issue to it, the difference with the reduced speed and the reduced travel distance makes it minimal.

Again with performance it’s not gonna be going round a track, it’s to keep you mobile to get the original repaired or replaced.

 

that’s just my thoughts on it, for the cost and hassle of a full size spare for the small amount of time if ever it will be used, it’s not worth it to me

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12 hours ago, ApertureS said:

There isn’t really a safety issue to it, the difference with the reduced speed and the reduced travel distance makes it minimal.

Again with performance it’s not gonna be going round a track, it’s to keep you mobile to get the original repaired or replaced.

 

that’s just my thoughts on it, for the cost and hassle of a full size spare for the small amount of time if ever it will be used, it’s not worth it to me

Lol.

If you're happy with your toy spare wheel I am delighted for you. The whole reason there is a distance and speed restriction on it is for safety as it doesn't perform as well as a full size wheel. I just hope you are not fully loaded when you come to use it as you will have nowhere to put the wheel you have taken off and will need to choose between leaving either the punctured wheel or your child on the verge lol.

 

Rightly or wrongly I have chosen to go for a full size wheel. That is my choice and I was merely seeking recommendation on where to get the screw, jack and wrench and which ones.

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12 hours ago, ArisaigDavid said:

If you put the wheel in the other way up, the only thing touching the metalwork will be the tyre itself and you won't need a screw to hold it in place. The other benefit is that it will be an awful lot easier to grab the spokes and heave the wheel out when necessary. Your Skoda dealer will be able to supply a jack and wrench, although probably not at the lowest price1

You are correct having the wheel the other way up is easier to get it in and out, however - and I am happy to be corrected on this - I understand that a spare wheel needs to be secured as otherwise it could come flying forward in a crash. Securing it will also stop it bouncing over potholes.

I was looking at possible alternatives to the Skoda dealer to compare

25 minutes ago, Sossages said:

Lol.

If you're happy with your toy spare wheel I am delighted for you. The whole reason there is a distance and speed restriction on it is for safety as it doesn't perform as well as a full size wheel. I just hope you are not fully loaded when you come to use it as you will have nowhere to put the wheel you have taken off and will need to choose between leaving either the punctured wheel or your child on the verge lol.

 

Rightly or wrongly I have chosen to go for a full size wheel. That is my choice and I was merely seeking recommendation on where to get the screw, jack and wrench and which ones.

Not really a toy wheel when its a type approved part. The reason for the speed restriction (no distance restrictions) is as you say, its not going to perform the same as a full size, in fact the width of the space saver is only 20% smaller than the original width. Hence the speed restriction. They wouldnt put it in the car and give you the maximum speed you can drive if it wasnt a safe alternative as a temporary measure up till that restriction. Same way putting foam in the tyre is a temporary measure. Its not meant to drive you the length of the country, just to get you somewhere to have a permanent fix carried out.

 

Its a lot of money to spend and effort to waste in my opinion for a spare, and this is from the person that spends a lot of money and wastes a lot of time on my superb!

 

But to answer your question, the parts are as follows

 

3v0012115e - foam insert for a 18 inch spare, no 19 inch spare available

6q0867749 - strap for foam insert

4d0012219a - wheel wrench

3q0011031a - jack

5q0011221 - jack arm

3g0803899e - big screw and nut for securing the wheel

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7 minutes ago, ApertureS said:

Not really a toy wheel when its a type approved part. The reason for the speed restriction (no distance restrictions) is as you say, its not going to perform the same as a full size, in fact the width of the space saver is only 20% smaller than the original width. Hence the speed restriction. They wouldnt put it in the car and give you the maximum speed you can drive if it wasnt a safe alternative as a temporary measure up till that restriction. Same way putting foam in the tyre is a temporary measure. Its not meant to drive you the length of the country, just to get you somewhere to have a permanent fix carried out.

 

Its a lot of money to spend and effort to waste in my opinion for a spare, and this is from the person that spends a lot of money and wastes a lot of time on my superb!

 

But to answer your question, the parts are as follows

 

3v0012115e - foam insert for a 18 inch spare, no 19 inch spare available

6q0867749 - strap for foam insert

4d0012219a - wheel wrench

3q0011031a - jack

5q0011221 - jack arm

3g0803899e - big screw and nut for securing the wheel

Thank you

Putting the full size spare wheel in, the rim face will NOT touch the boot floor.

....and yes, u need to secure it with a screw.

There is a thread already about this, where we've discussed at length the bits n pieces required.

The search function is ur friend.

 

I've had 3 punctures in the space of 1 yr - and each time the spare goes on the rear, the assist systems and ACC get disabled.  Annoyed the crap out of me - hence I had to get myself a full sized spare.

 

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1 hour ago, JR RS said:

Putting the full size spare wheel in, the rim face will NOT touch the boot floor.

....and yes, u need to secure it with a screw.

There is a thread already about this, where we've discussed at length the bits n pieces required.

The search function is ur friend.

 

I've had 3 punctures in the space of 1 yr - and each time the spare goes on the rear, the assist systems and ACC get disabled.  Annoyed the crap out of me - hence I had to get myself a full sized spare.

 

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I agree with your comments. 

I am new here and will obviously need to find out how to search lol. Will look for the thread. Thanks

Did you need to raise the boot liner around 25mm to get level with the tyre (235x40)? If so what did you use?

I used some plywood cut out the the boot liner template and some packing at the seat end, it is a handy storage space, hidden from sight.

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10 minutes ago, Hamster59 said:

I used some plywood cut out the the boot liner template and some packing at the seat end, it is a handy storage space, hidden from sight.

That’s my plan. What thickness did you use?

does it rattle?

No rattle, and some at leat 10mm ply, a nice solid piece.

I didn’t want any flex on it as the dogs are in there most of the time.

8 hours ago, Sossages said:

Did you need to raise the boot liner around 25mm to get level with the tyre (235x40)? If so what did you use?

 

I simply put a layer of Car Builder's Stage 2 Acoustic layer on the boot floor - added about 12 mm thickness, and added bonus of noise dampening.

 

I hardly notice that slight bend in the boot liner.

 

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You should be able to order the below spare wheel kit which includes the foam, jack, and tools from a local Skoda dealer using OEM part number 3V0093860B. Only the spare wheel is then needed. 215/60R16 fitted to a 6J rim such as 6Jx16 ET40 (from a Superb MK1) or 6Jx16 ET43 (from a Karoq) should fit flush. 215/60R16 fitted to the standard 6.5J rim apparently sits a few millimetre too high. It sounds like Skoda made the wheel well to fit something like a 205/55R16 fitted to a 6.5Jx16 ET46 rim from an Octavia MK3 (which they sometimes sell as a spare wheel for the Superb MK3), although the outside diameter of a 205/55R16 tyre is about 5% smaller than Superb MK3 tyre sizes.

 

You can check with the Skoda dealer using your car's VIN that this will fit your car.

 

1,359.00CZK is about £46.16.

 

Spare wheel kit for Superb MK3

OEM part number 3V0093860B

Spare wheel replacement kit

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/sada-pro-vymenu-rezervniho-kola/p/3V0093860B

 

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On 17/04/2022 at 22:16, ApertureS said:

a half size spare kit with the 18 inch wheel would of been a better option

18" is worst of all choices

 

Pros and Cons have been described already:

 

a)  same size as all other wheels

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/493502-full-sized-tyre-as-spare/

 + can be installed on any axle
 + can be used for unlimited distances
 + no size diff = no speed limits
 + Cruise control will be available
 - boot floor will be pushed few cm up
 - most expensive

 

b) custom 205/65r16, full diameter (my choice for 220ps)
-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/442912-full-size-spare-wheel/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-5040470

 + minor width diff will provide safe driving on + 30% of speed printed on spare disc. Important note, when installed on rear axle.
 + can be used for longer distances
 + minor circumference diff will provide ability of Cruise control usage. In theory, i haven't had to test it after OEM 205/55r16 were replaced.
 + fits in it's place, doesn't change size of boot.

 - !!! doesn't fit on 272/280ps even on rear axle !!!

 

c) custom 205/60r17, full diameter (my choice for 280ps)
Pros are equal to b and fits on 272/280ps, which has bigger brake discs, 340/310, while all rest have 310/298 (front/rear)

 

d) OEM 205/55r16
 + lot wider than 'd' = safer than 'd', but don't think printed speed limit can be exceed more than + 10%, even when installed on rear axle.
 + fits in it's place, doesn't change size of boot
 - huge circumference difference disables usage of Cruise Control

 - huge circumference difference isn't healthy for 4x4

 

e) OEM 125/70r18
 + fits in it's place, doesn't change size of boot
 - huge width difference = absolutely unsafe, even when installed or rear axle.
 - huge circumference difference disables usage of Cruise Control

 - huge circumference difference isn't healthy for 4x4

 

 

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/494383-can-anyone-with-a-20-tsi-220-factory-spare-wheel-tell-me-the-size/?do=findComment&comment=5550057
-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/493502-full-sized-tyre-as-spare/?do=findComment&comment=5556680

 

 

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Spare wheel now fitted and screwed down

19" Vega wheel c/w 235x40 tyre

Plastic inside boot lip trimmed with angle grinder to get wheel in

A scrap bit of ply placed over the wheel hollow to support the boot liner. Hole cut out of ply to keep things flat where liner hook is. 12mm ply used with edge reduced to 7mm to sit flush in wheel.

25mm polystyrene on boot floor to level with tyre height. Intention was to use doubled up 12mm birch ply (lighter than normal ply) but the war in Ukraine has stopped supply from Russia. May do this later?

Boot liner replaced flat and supported with boot floor now raised 25mm

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