Hi - I’m considering a Superb. Either the 2.0 TSI 190 or the iV

 

Can anyone let me know if the engines use a cam belt or cam chain?

 

If it’s a belt. When does it need changing and how much does it cost?

iV is a belt. Service interval for that is elusive though. I think the default guidance on that remains 5 years without a specific mileage.

Thanks. Do you know roughly how much it costs to change?

So you have 4 different engine variants basically.

 

1.6 TDI - Belt driven + Water Pump

2.0 TDI - Belt driven + Water Pump

1.4 TSI - Belt driven + Separate Belt Water Pump

2.0 TSI - Chain Driven + Separate Belt Driven Water Pump

 

 

the iV will be the 1.4 ACT TSI engine so belt driven. The 2.0 tsi is chain driven.

 

 

 

EDIT: Rough costs for the belts. The tsi belt is much cheaper than the tdi belts, tsi will set you back less than £500, tdi belt with the water pump will set you back at most £800 depending on where you go of course and what parts are used.

Edited 29 May, 20224 yr by ApertureS

A 1.4 TSI in a PHEV is not a ACT engine is it?     Just a 1.4TSI.

 

(& they require to be on Fixed Oil & Filter regimes.)

19 minutes ago, ApertureS said:

So you have 4 different engine variants basically.

 

1.6 TDI - Belt driven + Water Pump

2.0 TDI - Belt driven + Water Pump

1.4 TSI - Belt driven + Separate Belt Water Pump

2.0 TSI - Chain Driven + Separate Belt Driven Water Pump

 

 

the iV will be the 1.4 ACT TSI engine so belt driven. The 2.0 tsi is chain driven.

 

 

 

EDIT: Rough costs for the belts. The tsi belt is much cheaper than the tdi belts, tsi will set you back less than £500, tdi belt with the water pump will set you back at most £800 depending on where you go of course and what parts are used.

Great thanks - so for the 2.0 TSI the chain never needs changing I assume? But I guess the water pump belt does?

 

 

31 minutes ago, simonb82 said:

Great thanks - so for the 2.0 TSI the chain never needs changing I assume? But I guess the water pump belt does?

 

 

Chain never needs changing, neither does the water pump belt unless you have a failure of the pump but they dont generally fail.

Been looking at this and is it correct that changing the cam belt is around £900?

 

while the iv would save me money in fuel over the 190 TSI. All that saving would get wiped out with the cam belt cost!

2 minutes ago, simonb82 said:

Been looking at this and is it correct that changing the cam belt is around £900?

 

while the iv would save me money in fuel over the 190 TSI. All that saving would get wiped out with the cam belt cost!

The 1.4 belt change should not be costing you £900!!

The 2.0tdi belt I change for around £600 with a coolant change.

The 1.4tsi belt I change for around the £400 mark.

 

 

Who quoted you 900 for it?

Apologies it was £700 not £900 but that was quoted via the service booking on the Skoda site just for me to get an idea on price before I decide which engine to get

 

£400 is much better but that’s still eating into any cost saving for the iv especially with electric prices now the iv isn’t that much cheaper anyway

@simonb82 

If you are do higher miles and are used to doing Variable / Flexible oil and filter changes remember the 1.4 iV gets Fixed Service Interval Oil & Filter changes.

Ah ok thanks. Will that make the iv even worse for cost then? Fixed I guess is every 10k so every 8 months for me. What sort of distance is flexible likely to get on the 190 TSI?

11 minutes ago, simonb82 said:

Ah ok thanks. Will that make the iv even worse for cost then? Fixed I guess is every 10k so every 8 months for me. What sort of distance is flexible likely to get on the 190 TSI?

EDIT - didnt see the message above.

 

Flexible is up to 20k or 2 years but to be honest, if you care about the car, do it every year. The only reason long life services became a thing is to keep lease companies happy as they dont have to pay out for as much maintenance. Just cause the oil can last up to 20k, doesnt mean it should.

Edited 12 June, 20223 yr by ApertureS

Fair point. So would you say still service the TSI 190 every 10k or just every year which would be 15k for me

@simonb82 VW are showing the PHEV Servicing at 9,000 miles not even the 9,300 miles they usually show and the 9,400 Skoda do for Fixed Oil & Filter Changes.

Skoda Main Dealer Service desks seem to still be confused but it should be 9,000 miles.

But then some might use their PHEV and seldom or never run the engine and some will run them and seldom or never plug them in and charge them. 

 

15,000 mile / Annual OIl & Inspection servicing would be perfectly fine with a 2.0 TSI.

Edited 12 June, 20223 yr by roottoot

It’s all making the PHEV seem like it’s going to cost more money to run than the TSI 190

The high-voltage bits are why the belt change costs so much. It was exactly the same with VW when I had the Golf GTE (same 1.4 with 6 speed dsg etc). 

 

Thankfully I traded it in for the Superb and they agreed to deal with the belt change in-house. 

7 hours ago, amateurdad said:

The high-voltage bits are why the belt change costs so much. It was exactly the same with VW when I had the Golf GTE (same 1.4 with 6 speed dsg etc). 

 

Thankfully I traded it in for the Superb and they agreed to deal with the belt change in-house. 

How much was the belt change on the Golf going to be? How does the superb cost compare?

Golf belt was going to be over £900 at VW, and struggled to find any independents to do it because a lot wouldn't work on the high voltage system, and some didn't have the special "tool" required. Not sure if this was software or a physical tool. 

 

Haven't priced the superb yet, but its a petrol 280, not a hybrid.