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Coolant Temperature Sensor replaced........issue not fixed - SCAN INCLUDED

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Hi guys,

 

2007 Octavia vRS 2.0 TDi

 

Temperature gauge on instrument panel stays at the bottom.

MIL light on.

Car idle is lumpy and also for first while driving.

 

Scanned it and showed a code for a coolant temp sensor. Got a replacement from EuroCarParts and changed it. Still the same issues.

 

 

Sunday,31,July,2022,19:37:52:25280
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBEH21Z282028325   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBEH21Z282028325   Mileage: 213790km-132842miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 018 EL    HW: 03G 906 018 EL
   Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2      9953  
   Revision: --H42---    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4312091
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
   VCID: 73B3DCA8A7B30493C2D-8026
   VINID: 91D49560206A0880800880C214C5FF2D6B

2 Faults Found:
000280 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
               P0118 - 006 - Signal too High - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 213422 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:28:31

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        0.00 %
                    Voltage: 11.64 V
                    Temperature: -5.0°C
                    Temperature: 50.0°C

000278 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
               P0116 - 006 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 213558 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 12:25:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1344 /min
                    Torque: 104.0 Nm
                    Speed: 86.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 14.46 V
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Temperature: 7.0°C
                    Temperature: 68.0°C

Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0006786
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 73B3DCA8A7B30493C2D-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 907 044 R    HW: 1Z0 907 044 R
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 110 0402  
   Revision: 00110021    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 45D75270B9A7CA23BC9-8010

2 Faults Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005007141
   Coding: A9880F011004140080110D000000000000097F0700000028000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
   VCID: 71BFD6A0DDAF3683301-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 220607 022  0601  
   Coding: 00055223
   Shop #: WSC 73430  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q4 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1AHD9D  
   Coding: 0020788
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 3D273A90D17782E3E49-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME1C347C00A

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1C22720A8

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 74B1DFB4A2BD03ABDB7-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 E    HW: 1Z0 920 912 E
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610056    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4312091
   Coding: 0003401
   Shop #: WSC 12345 067 57207
   VCID: 372B28B8F34BA8B33E5-8062

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 213792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:36:14


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 220607F1001825
   Coding: E9807F060002021303
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 303913A416257F8B7FF-8064

1 Fault Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 213792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:36:16


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 E    HW: 1Z0 920 912 E
   Component: IMMO            VD1 1610  
   Revision: V1610056    Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4312091
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 372B28B8F34BA8B33E5-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 38292B84FE55A7CB37F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
   VCID: 363525BCF44151BB253-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 81801A085283007F3F04850540085F96907CA0
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 03538C68F7133413D2D-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE No Answer     

1 Fault Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 213792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:37:19


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000756
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 392F2E80C55FBEC3C81-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J    HW: 1K0 959 703 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 372B28B8F34BA8B33E5-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J    HW: 1K0 959 704 J
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
   VCID: 38292B84FE55A7CB37F-806C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:03, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.2V)-----------

 

 

 

Anybody got any ideas what the problem could be? Thermostat perhaps?

 

 

Thanks.

The aftermarket CTS are renowned for not being very good… worse than the OE ones, which TBH aren’t great.  

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2 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

The aftermarket CTS are renowned for not being very good… worse than the OE ones, which TBH aren’t great.  

 

 

So you think I should change it again for a Genuine Skoda CTS?

Personally it’s what I would be doing first. 

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Whereabouts was the sensor you changed, near radiator or on engine?

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Just now, Breezy_Pete said:

Whereabouts was the sensor you changed, near radiator or on engine?

 

This is not my actual engine, just a stock photo from google, but i've circled where the sensor I replaced is.

 

2008-Skoda-Octavia-Vrs-Complete-20-Tdi-Bmn.jpg

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If only I knew whether that's G62 or the G83 radiator outlet temp sensor. I think the latter would normally be nearer the rad, but don't know on your engine.

@Jamie_B I don't suppose you know your engine code for your car?

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Just now, varooom said:

@Jamie_B I don't suppose you know your engine code for your car?

 

No, where would i find that?

Just now, Jamie_B said:

 

No, where would i find that?

A sticker with 3/4 characters

 

Could be in the boot under the floor mat

Sometimes printed on owner book

Can even be in a door jamb

vehicle_data.jpg.2acebc74a464ff169e5b3c9737c2e3b0.jpg

 

6 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

No, where would i find that?

 

Or the vehicle log book the engine serial number will begin with 3 or 4 letters, that is the engine code

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BMN is in the V5 under the 'Engine Number' section

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BMN, on the autoscan. 🙂

4 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

BMN, on the autoscan. 🙂

I'm overdue an eye test.

It's on the label file VCDS uses 😄

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Do you still have the sensor you took out of that location, and if so does it have a part number on it anywhere?

What colours are the wires going to the connector?

Seems like that might be neither of g62/g83. 

 

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@JamieB Judging by the location, that might be the fuel temperature sensor you've circled in the photo above??

Hope it's not in the bin, and your collection day today...

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7 hours ago, Breezy_Pete said:

@JamieB Judging by the location, that might be the fuel temperature sensor you've circled in the photo above??

Hope it's not in the bin, and your collection day today...

You know what, it has part number 269416 on it.

I just assumed that it was the part as it's the same, it fits and I'm sure where it is located feeds back to the coolant reservoir.

 

Now I'm having doubts. 👀

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Check the wire colours going into the connector, I can compare with wiring info.

Photo of old sensor?

 

as soon as i saw "CTS" and "one from ECP" i had a feeling the next bit gonna be "its still not working".

 

VAG engines have always been fussy about non oem engine sensors. i think the different thicknesses of metals in oem vs aftermarket can make enough of a change to the resistances the ecu expects to get that it just goes "fk that, its broken" 

 

i cant say if youve accidentally put the new one in the fuel sensor hole, but assuming you havnt, try unplugging it and see how the engine runs?

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If you follow the flexible hose from your red circle up to the metal ones that cross the engine, you'll see it's the one nearest the front of the car  and goes to the fuel filter, not the expansion tank.

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@Jamie_B have you read the helpful private message that might have come from another member?

1 minute ago, Breezy_Pete said:

@Jamie_B have you read the helpful private message that might have come from another member?

I believe it was marked read message, but no reply.

 

I guess could have thought PDF was a virus.

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4 minutes ago, varooom said:

I believe it was marked read message, but no reply.

 

I guess could have thought PDF was a virus.

 

I responded over an hour ago with my thanks for the .pdf 👍🏻

IMG_20220801_210104.jpg

I was on the phone to daughter so missed it 🙂

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No worries. I've not had a chance to go check but everything is pointing to it being the wrong sensor I've changed. 🙈🤣

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