If there were more larger cars that are 5 seats and luggage, or 7 seats and luggage that families might need and want in the UK but without the manufacturers building faster and more sporty handling and concentrate on maybe 100 mph / 161 kmph top speeds with safe and comfortable handling & efficiency on UK roads. 

Affordable and efficient tyres / sizes.

So smaller, medium sized and larger cars that are just transportation & not stylee or sporty over being practical.

 

It looks like there are more coming that will be like that and FAMILY cars for PRIVATE owners might get priced under £40,000 in the UK.

16 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

I doubt we will see such a long range car. Most people don't need that kind of range so there is no market, unless he manufacturers get into a range war. Such a car will need 120-150kWh batteries that will be too large, too heavy and too expensive. The challenge now is to improve efficiency to real world 4+ miles/kWh which would give a 60kWh battery 250 mile range - plenty for most at 4-5 hours of driving. Improved efficiency allows for smaller (easier to package), lighter (more efficient) and cheaper batteries to make EV more accessible.

One thing having an EV has shown me, I don't need more than 250-ish mile range.

 

The Scenic 60 kwh version, actual reckoned to be 65 kwh, and i have run it right down and topped it up to 100% a few times though it is recommended to not go over 80% too often and I have done the over 200 mile journeys in the coldish weather. Stated average energy usage is 3.8 kwh bit been getting a bit less than that in the colder weather. Was getting over 4 miles per kwh back in September and seeing 275 miles range shown.

Most Scenic owners went for the 87 kwh nominal battery, 92 kwh total and they have seen ranges from just under 300 miles to 350 from what I read on the Scenic websites.

 

Plenty I think though the charge curve is a little disappointing as it takes quite a dive in charge rate as it hits 50% which my 60/65 kwh does not fall so drastically.

 

As we move to summer it gets easier. Just neen more of the facilities like Braintree, Gatwick, Reading, Rugby, Stevenidge etc 

 

 

@lol-lol  has the car actually done 275 miles on a full battery? 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@lol-lol  has the car actually done 275 miles on a full battery? 

 

This time of year, no chance, think it has done about 200 but back in September it was doing 246 miles and still had 30 miles left on the range meter and as I said I have done 12 miles past zero and it did not even come up with the restricted performance until the last mile.

 

All done on Motorways or dual carriageway but cruising mainly around the 60 mph mark.

 

It is very much as I expected and how those you don't drive at or above the NSL as they will see much less than WLTP.

 

The strategy for getting around the WLTP are well known. Get the small ie narrower tyre options, that is 19s 205s and not the 20 inch 235s. Have the rears at around 40 psi, brake using regen rather than sudden and harsh brake pedal usage. Speed has a cube relation to aero drag so settle for a mile a minute average.

 

Look forward to warmer weather when range will be much better, about 15C seems to be the start of the sweet temp. One can help the battery achieve better in range temps ie charge as close to leaving on the journey. When the battery is cool but fully charged be gentle on slowing as regen will not top up a cold battery ie only 10 kws of regen works and not 30 or 40 kws when battery is warm. Proper for the tyres too of course.

 

Stay relaxed and think about the driving process and where best to stop of one needs too considering battery temp, SoC, cost and reliability of public chargers if needed. It can be quite an enjoyable game like chess I find as well as cheap motoring, at least on the running cost if not the monthly PCP etc.

 

Bargain motoring.

£173 for springs, I hope it has been done both sides. It costed me £900 for a pair of new front shocks + top mount and labour + VAT. How come doing similar struct rebuild is so cheap for them?

But overall yes, powertrain-wise it's a super cheap car to own. Suspension problems exist with all cars.

200k mile Tesla still good...

Edited 21 March, 20251 yr by Luckypants

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Edited 1 May, 20251 yr by Ootohere

23 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

You would think the guy would hold up rechargeable battery rather what looks to be an alkaline Duracell.

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