Don't want much do I?

I have recently bought an AmD one click from another Briskodian( ) and I am planning on getting it custom mapped when I have the finances. My question is, what is the best balance of torque, power and clutch friendliness. I know that the generic map from AmD gives an increase of approx 35 lbs/ft of torque and 30 bhp so is it worth me getting it custom mapped, it's an extra

I suspect the perfect remap might involve some form of clutch upgrade.

Therefore if you're not upgrading the clutch you want to try and make it a little like a petrol with free flowing power up high, but not too much torque to rip the clutch apart.

Where to get this from is hard to say. Plenty of people to choose from.

Surely the best map is where a custom mapper takes your requirements and maps the car according to these Peak power and torque are all well and good down the pub, but I'd personally rather have an increase in power all across the rev range to improve driveability (and so would my clutch!)

Best bet is to pick a few tuners and have a chat with them and see what they offer and their dyno graphs and compare them

Chris

I thought AmD's figures of increase for the generic were quite conservative but some people with that map have even had problems with the clutch or dmf. Would just like a map where I don't have to worry about flooring it!

The amd generic map is pretty good tbh... I cant fault it.

The amd generic map is pretty good tbh... I cant fault it.

me neither - no clutch slip (yet) but a very good increase in power

Just out of interest, does the clutch slip when fully engaged? I'm getting a new Fab soon, and I'm interested in a remap, but the last thing I want to do if nuke the clutch on a brand new car. I have a 2.0 focus at the moment with coming up to 80k on the clock and its still on the original clutch (don't know what kind of mileage people get with Fabia clutch's, but as far as I can gather I'm doing quite well with the Focus) so i reckon I'm pretty gentle with them, but the vRS has about 100lb/ft more torque than the Focus, so its a different beast altogether. How big a problem is the clutch slip? Do most people with a remap suffer with it?

My tuning box'd Fabia was still on its first clutch when I sold it at 82k miles

Chris

The amd generic map is pretty good tbh... I cant fault it.

Have you had it on the rollers Tom?

My mums 214 (1991) was on it's original clutch when I bought it for her showing 85k on the clock with FSH.

I killed it in 3k miles opps! Too many GT starts!

clutches will last depending on abuse and use.

When/If my clutch goes I will be replacing it with a uprated one, which will be after my warrenty has finished and I can then mod it!

Note: I haven't had mine re-mapped (yet).

What Jason said ^^^

If you want numbers, try 260lbft and 175bhp. Get the torque mapped into a sort of table top shape to hold the torque as long as possible up the rev. range. Together with 'no more smoke' those would be my targets.

I can't really be arsed with green panel filters and such like but I'll probably be getting the cupra intake and maybe clean/change the standard filter more often. Add a pikey mod. or two and see where that leaves me.

(260lbft after a discussion on Audi TT forum a while ago about the 'advisable' limits for tuning and gearboxes/drivetrains).

J.

Having been in several remapped Fabias, the AMD is definitely one of the smoothest, but is a touch less on power too.

Yet to be rolling roaded... :thumbdwn:

I've never had clutch slip, and havent had DMF vibration recently either.

I was still on the original clutch in my previous car (Pug 405 TD) when I got rid of it at 216,000 miles!!

When your foot's not on the pedal there's no slip unless the clutch is already knackered. There's therefore only clutch wear whilst the driver's doing something with it.

Like people above have said, drive like a tool and the clutch won't last, drive well and it will. The ONLY time it wears is when your foot is on the pedal - so minimise that time and do it at low torque points on the power curve - bear in mind that whilst your car produces low torque at 4000rpm it's not wise to engage the clutch because of the difference in speed between the two plates. If it slips when engaged get a new one :thumbdwn:

Silly torque may overcome the standard clutch whilst engaged but I'd imagine you'd need more than a remap to get that far

Note: I haven't had mine re-mapped (yet).

What Jason said ^^^

If you want numbers' date=' try 260lbft and 175bhp. Get the torque mapped into a sort of table top shape to hold the torque as long as possible up the rev. range. Together with 'no more smoke' those would be my targets.

I can't really be arsed with green panel filters and such like but I'll probably be getting the cupra intake and maybe clean/change the standard filter more often. Add a pikey mod. or two and see where that leaves me.

(260lbft after a discussion on Audi TT forum a while ago about the 'advisable' limits for tuning and gearboxes/drivetrains).

J.[/quote']

If the recommendation is to have 260lb/ft then there wouldn't be much of an advantage in getting it custom mapped as the generic would offer 265lb/ft (obviously rough figures).....mmm interesting.

Sorry, I'm still a Skoda noob... whats DMF vibration? Is it to do with the stutter, or something else?

Sorry, I'm still a Skoda noob... whats DMF vibration? Is it to do with the stutter, or something else?

The dual mass flywheel absorbs engine vibrations to protect the gearbox. With too much torgue it reaches its limit, and you get a dull vibrating noise clearly audible in the cabin.

Like Chris said. Its not about number but the area under the graph.

To be clutch safe I would get them to limit the torque to around 260lbsft. This should not reduce peak power as torque drops as you climb the revs.

I would say the driver can protect the clutch it always nice to have lots of power but it does not mean you always use it,to protect your clutch change down a gear the higher the gear the more the stress on the clutch so dont be acelerating in top gear from low revs because this is peek torque and maximum clutch stress.I have revo and have zero clutch slip but from the enormouse amount of torque a remap gives if sombody give me new car if i could destroy the clutch in recored time it would be easy and fun lol.

Enjoy your remap dont worry about the clutch its easy to protect it.

Uprated clutch does make it less of a worry though, just give the clutch the time it needs to be 'engaged' before dropping down the accelerator, avoid doing the fully-planted-accelerator at low revs in higher gears, and feed in the throttle. Better for fuel economy, better for the car, tyres and it gives nice effortless performance.

A remap will help revving higher up the range for sure, but once you start, things go down a slippery slope. A custom map may be good for you, based on what you're saying though, although virtually all (re)mappers recommend the PD160 intake and a green filter or equivalent to avoid excessive smoke.

On the smoke bit - depends a lot on fuel quality and how much you boot it. If you boot it hard it will smoke, especially in hot weather.

I have a custom remap from a guy in poland. He sent it via Email and then i uploaded via ecu flasher that you can buy off ebay, he sent me a total of 3 maps to try..

I wanted a smoother car with out the torque coming in with a bang that makes you believe your car is faster than it actually is.

It now drives like a petrol car and is so smooth and less noisy. I have about 210bhp and around 250-260 LBFT of torque, i used to have over 300lbft but having less torque hasnt made the car slower just no decieving bang, and there is no smoke whatsoever and can keep up with a mates S8. As far as i can see its a perfect map, knows his stuff.

If I get the torque capped to say 260lb/ft, does that mean that I will still have as much/more of a kick than standard coupled with a power band that will remain until 3.5-4k revs?. I assume that when u say it drives like a petrol you're saying it revs more freely. Personally, I enjoy the deceiving kick in the back acceleration:D BTW I have the filter, pikey mods already so would the only benefit from custom mapping be better top end power?

The amd generic map is pretty good tbh... I cant fault it.

I agree with you Tom. It's been superb for me abliet with a little DMF issue.

you could do with sorting your brakes out pre-remap, dont think the standard ones will be up to the job

Reason it feels like a petrol is because i capped the torque to the level i want but i have max bhp so as the revs build up you can feel it pull harder after 3-3500 rpm to the redline its a good feeling. I used to like the instant kick but its deceiving and it feels better this way and it isnt slower because of the less torque just means you can go into a lower gear at low speeds, the new map has taken half a second of the 60-100 times.