Hi all , just bought my first Skoda and have a question about locking / unlocking using chipless mechanical key.

Reason for this is when I go body boarding and don't want to get fob key wet.

So , on my old 08 Astra I can do as follows.

Hide fob key, open passenger door , press central locking button , close door , car is locked. To open i can just use chipless key ( which I keep round my neck while in sea ) on driver side , once i open door all other doors unlock. No alarm in this car.

 

In my new car , it has alarm and internal sensors.

Has anyone used my method on Fabia 

Just wondering if possible before getting a chipless key cut?

 

Cheers

 

Donut 🙂👍

Welcome.

 

The Fabia will probably be just like this Yeti.  So just get a key cut.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/513118-non-electronic-key-for-2nd-generation-yeti

 

 

I think you can just have the key for the door and no chip.

Turn off the internal alarm as you do when leaving animals inside, but as it is i am not sure but maybe you are not setting the alarm just locking with the key without a chip.

If you are no problem. You are opening again using it.

 

Can you not use a waterproof key holder like a waterproof one on an arm band for phones maybe.

 

 

Edited 12 May, 20233 yr by toot

Ok cheers will give that a go.

 

Donut 🙂👍

Just a thought , is the chip waterproof and just the pcb that would get get damaged?

Thinking maybe just put chip in valet key 🤷

 

Donut 🙂

Hi, welcome.

 

Have a look at your Owner's Manual for info on this and lots more, even very simple job you've been doing for decades it's still best to refer to the Owner's Manual as the German car manufacturers love to make simple stuff more complex to show how 'clever' they are.

 

Using a key blade (or what is a key to an old person like me) gets you into my wife's 2015 Mk3 Fabia (after removing the cover on the driver's door and putting the key blade in upside down and turn the lock the opposite way to instinct) but then you have to be quick to get the key blade into the ignition lock otherwise the alarm goes off.  ETA: - and turn the ignition on as the alarm will sound until then, I've just checked. 

 

Your Fabia probably doesn't have the hidden lock cover and  have a lock designed for a r/h/s door.

 

Look at your Owner's Manual, if you don't have the paper printed copy you can download a free VWSkoda pdf copy from the following link, enter VIN or scroll down the page and select model and (part) year. - https://manual.skoda-auto.com/004/en-com/Models

 

If you have future threads and questions it can often be useful to have more details about your particular Mk2 to help with more specific answers and information.  Cheers.

 

Edited 12 May, 20233 yr by nta16
ETA:

Just thought - you'd might(?) / probably(?) need the chipped key to turn the ignition on and get the alarm off. 

That is why you put the key in your sock in your shoe in the car for when you go back in the car.

But anyone breaking into cars at surf / kayaking / mountain biking type spots know to check there first. 

So the obvious is obvious and the not obvious is known as a hiding place, so you are on a hiding to nothing.

 

None of this stuff is new, it is as it has been for years.

 

The barsrtwards even stole the belt that was on my jeans which were on my artificial leg years back, and the fiver out the ashtray. 

 

I would be as well just leaving the car open for them to save them doing the lock in as the did.

 

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With the Cortina or Granada or even the Transit no force would be needed.

Edited 12 May, 20233 yr by toot

Haha i remember a mk4 cortina I had  back in the day I could open the doors and turn the engine with my house key 

KEY BLANK AUDI A3 A4 SEAT LEON SKODA FABIA VW CADDY POLO GOLF CUT TO CODE PHOTO | eBay Worth a punt for £11.60. I had one done, not necessarily same seller, as once had car self lock with key in boot while away from home. Just try your existing key in the door lock to lock/unlock and ensure it is not seized if you have remote locking.

Bought a key this arvo , will test tonight.

 

Donut 🙂🤞🤞🤞

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

Just thought - you'd might(?) / probably(?) need the chipped key to turn the ignition on and get the alarm off. 

Sure the chip is for the immobiliser and not the alarm, so turning the ignition on will light the dash up and will probably start it for 2 seconds before immobiliser kicks in shutting it down.

On my wife's 16 year old Cortina Mk3 (2000E) the ignition key lock was broken from an attempt to steal the car from the previous owner, it had the hook from a car seat cover left in permanently as the key, we of course immediately improved the car's security by removing it from the lock.

 

Well got the method to lock it whilst leaving main in there. Just whether or not i want to now.🤔

My old car I didn't mind so much as i thght probably no one would even give it a 2nd look. My latest car a bit tidier , tho still 12 yrs old , it's a bit more presentable.

Think I'll give the aqua pac a go as still have spare proper key back at site should anything happen to the one in pouch.

 

Cheers 

 

Donut

 

Well in the end I also bought a little pouch thingy for round my neck. Had 3 press seals in at top which folded over . Also put the key inside small food bag prior to pouch , worked fine. I'm only in the water a couple of hours and just riding a wave in on my bodyboard so no major underwater stuff. Well I've got an extra spare key now as well.

 

Thanks all.

 

Donut 🙂👍

Just another quick one on the car ( 105 bhp 1.6 tdi Fabia )

Used to the idiosyncratic wobble at 40 mph now in 4th gear and just use 5th on the motorway.

Was pleased with trip back which was 50 miles B roads and 80 miles Mway we got 64 mpg 👍

In fact Mrs sent me pic today which was all Mway ( 40 miles ) it was 71 mpg .

 

Cheers 

 

Donut 🙂👍

 

Re the dumb key.

 

I have one which will open the drivers door but not start the engine, I use it to lock my keys inside (hidden) and then either put it back in its hiding place or take it with me in the small pocket of my running shorts.

 

The problem I have is when I open the drivers door with the dumb key it sets off the alarm which draws attention to what i am doing and an onlooker might see where I stash the dumb key.

 

The internal sensor disable function does nothing as the act of unlocking the door with a non chipped key sets the alarm off, I have tried all sorts of settings in VCDS, Thatcham etc some of which definitely say create a delay to the sounder during which I could put the real key in the ignition but none of them seem to work or even do anything.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions other than disconnecting and coding out the alarm?

 

I had no problems doing what I want on my MK2 Octavia which is the same platform.

The other reason for the hidden dumb key is in case I lose my keyring away from the home, I have spare proper chipped key hidden inside the vehicle, the dumb key will get me in so I can retrieve the chipped key unfortunately with the alarm sounding.

 

The other unfortunate thing is that I have forgotten where I hid the chipped key inside the vehicle