Getting timing belt and water pump done, not with skoda garage due to expense. 

 

It's 6 years old, 49k. 

 

Should I be changing it and what should I be looking out for

 

Getting done in the morning tomorrow

Should you change it? That’s only a question you can answer.

 

Skoda UK will tell you it’s a year overdue, others might say that Skoda UK’s blanket 5 year interval is a simple money making tactic. On mileage alone you’re 100,000 miles early.

 

You pays your money and makes your choice.

 

P.S, my 5 year old 40,000 mile Kodiaq is in for its £740 cambelt on Monday, despite the Skoda workshop manual suggesting its a lifetime part and never needs changing (in non dusty environments).

 

£740 can buy a lot of nice things.

@silver1011is that a cam belt you are having changed on a 1.4 TSI ACT at that price?

Hi the car is not a 1.4 tsi . It is a 2.0 l diesel 4x4 dsg 2017 

Thanks. I've decided to take the chance and get the timing belt change and water pump the same time though bit a confusing on my part whether should be a manual water pump or electrical though guy said its a manual one on my car the electric is an extra part ... not sure . Hoping they know what they are doing. Decided not to go to skoda to get it done as had bad experience with dealer and had a enough of them. After sales since got car 2 years ago has been a shambles. So decided to go elsewhere for timing belt and water pump done. 

Really stupid question is cambelt and timing belt same thing? I know chain is different 

Yes.

& i knew what your engine was from the title, but it did seem that @silver1011was talking about a different engine altogether.

 

Is the other servicing up to date like the Haldex Serviced twice now?

Has the DSG been serviced, & the fuel filter replaced?

The dsg not been serviced as I everything very expensive. With timing belt and water pump change and front brake pads and discs over 1k. When I called to get a price I was told unless u are experiencing any issues with gears it's OK. I know it says at 40k mark but that recommended but what would you do? 

 

The car is service by skoda so next due in Nov which would probably be the major service in my package that I have

 Would that not be the Haldex as only thing they ever highlighted as recommended was timing belt and dsg oil change. 

 

Is timing belt same as cambelt 

Yes, the timing belt is the same as the cambelt.

 

I used my recent example (different engine) to highlight the interval discrepancies and wild price variations from Skoda UK and their franchised dealer network.

I know it's massive price difference. 

 

Timing belt and water pump.getting done as we speak not with franchise dealer of skoda, took to another garage that we have used for other non skoda cars for.  I'm just unsure for my peace of mind if electrical water pump.instesd of manual for my car . But engineer seems to think manual.  Any experience ?

 

I need to find a price for dsg oil change as think 277 with skoda.

8 hours ago, silver1011 said:

My 5 year old 40,000 mile Kodiaq is in for its £740 cambelt on Monday, despite the Skoda workshop manual suggesting its a lifetime part and never needs changing (in non dusty environments).

 

Never needs changing!  Is that what the workshop manual actually says or is that just your interpretation of what it says?

 

7 hours ago, fm7 said:

I'm just unsure for my peace of mind if electrical water pump.instesd of manual for my car

 

The waterpump on your Tdi is belt driven, so yes, manual.

@fm7The Haldex Service is due @ each 3 years / 30,000 miles or sooner. 

Unless it is a DQ381 DSG with the service @ 80,000 miles or sooner it will be @ 40,000 miles.

Someone will know if it is a DQ500 DSG you have.

 

 

Edited 16 June, 20232 yr by toot

4 hours ago, kodiaqsportline said:

Never needs changing!  Is that what the workshop manual actually says or is that just your interpretation of what it says?

 

As I said.

13 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

As I said.

 

Forgive my sceptisism but is it possible to post that part of the workshop manual that says so?  I don't know of a single cambelt in existance that never wears, moreover from a legal point of view, I find it incredible anyone would put such a thing in writing.

 

 

50 minutes ago, kodiaqsportline said:

 

Forgive my sceptisism but is it possible to post that part of the workshop manual that says so?  I don't know of a single cambelt in existance that never wears, moreover from a legal point of view, I find it incredible anyone would put such a thing in writing.

 

 

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Thanks Silver2011.  Is that really what  the dash signifies? Tsi belts never wears out but Tdi ones do???   There's also no mention about replacing the tensioners. 😲  If that info is correct then I'm 100% with SkodaUK - any mechanic with half a brain wouldn't pay the slightest attention to that sheet.   I see you've chosen to change the belt. If it doesn't need doing, what's your reasoning behind it?  I'm with you - mine will be changed too.

 

What's even more interesting tho is if you look a couple of rows up, it has the same dash for the sunroof. So according to that schedule, you never have to clean or lubricate the guide rails on the sunroof? I find that ludicrous to say the least. No half decent mechanic wouldn't ever lubricate a moving part, moreover one that's used fairly infrequently.

 

No wonder people have so many problems if that's the advice they follow. My teenie weeny brain is saying there just has to be more to it than that. Jeez oh, I'm now wondering what the rest of the workshop manual says. 🤪

 

 

 

For info only Skoda UK recommend a belt change on the 1.4 tsi...   Skoda other countries don't, they only suggest belt inspections.  And neither do the other parts of the VAG empire that use the same engine. 

 

Also, when the engine was launched there was a lot of press 'noise' and launch pack info about the long life belt and ovalised cam pulleys to reduce strain on the belt. 

 

Personally I won't be changing my belt for a long time yet but that's an individual choice based on research and personal experience over many cars run for high mileages and many years. 

Edited 17 June, 20232 yr by skomaz

Thanks guys. I did get mine changed 

 Rather be safe than finding an expensive problem in the long run. 

16 hours ago, kodiaqsportline said:

I see you've chosen to change the belt. If it doesn't need doing, what's your reasoning behind it?  I'm with you - mine will be changed too.

Yep, it’s one of those situations whereby you have to make a call based on the information available combined with your own perception of risk.

 

I’ve no doubt Skoda UK are taking advantage but there are other specifics that I am having to consider too (an independent garage got halfway through the job and had to stop), and I have a warranty which means I have to adhere to the service and maintenance schedules.

 

Presumably UK dealers won’t be inspecting the belts either. How accurate can a visual check be?

 

The recent price hike is grating though. I just wish I had the energy to challenge Skoda UK on why they insist on the 5 year interval and no other country does…

4 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Presumably UK dealers won’t be inspecting the belts either. How accurate can a visual check be?

 

The recent price hike is grating though. I just wish I had the energy to challenge Skoda UK on why they insist on the 5 year interval and no other country does…

 

I suspect a 'visual' check will be more of a ticking box exercise, but from a warranty point of view, that's all that's needed.

 

I have all the energy in the world and being the pain-in-the-ar5e that I am, would have no issue challenging the VW group as I have done several times in the past ( and always received a solution or goodwill ). The problem discussing the cambelt is for what purpose? What do we stand to gain? They're not going to change their policy.  I wouldn't get technical answer because if it is true that the UK is unique it's almost certain to be a case of 'computer says no'. 

 

The question I'm asking myself is, is that true? Is the UK unique? I keep reading people saying other countries do this and that, but few posters ever back this up with evidence. I have no way of knowing if it's true or not. I look at the skoda websites of different countries but if there is one thing about Skoda UK and their dealers that's unique, its that we're provided with information - other countries aren't so lucky.

 

If I did call them and if they'd any sales sense, then they'd reply "Can we interest you in one of our EV's which do not have cambelts" 🤣   The only reason I'd contact Skoda UK is if the belt went snap!   

Get an EV from Arnold Clark and the Glasgow Booking Centre will book the car in for a Service & MOT and even discuss them not have an Auto or EV as a courtesy car and offer a 'Fuel Treatment' which is on offer.

They might not be able to answer where they are going to be putting that fuel treatment into.