hey peeps

excuse my incorrect terminology and general bad typing.

 are fabias renowned for brakes getting sticky when handbrake applied, is this a ‘thing’ on parking on a printed concrete driveway, when weather is wintery cold it is particularly bad.

 

i have a 68 plate colour edition. 

i never had this problem when parking on block paving, my handbrake is just weird recently.  i now keep it in gear with handbrake off, as my car got stuck once or twice.

 

its going in for a main service in 2 weeks, 32,000 miles.

wondered if u had some back up info from the forum might be good for my preparation, im sure my local Indy man will think im a bit strange 🤭

i am novice and do basic maintenance, eg fluid levels etc.

does handbrake need tightening or brakes looking at? any thoughts 🫣  

 

Is this a newer car than the 68 plate or the same car?

 

Due a brake fluid change now maybe, that not likely to be the issue.  iI might benefit from a change of brake pads, or is your car one with rear drum brakes? 

Striping and cleaning / servicing the brakes might be all that is needed.

same car

Presumably you have(?) the mechanical type of handbrake, push a button and pull up and not the electronic type?

 

32k-miles isn't a big mileage for a 2018 car so does this mean your car is parked on the printed concrete driveway a lot and always in the same place and position and facing the same way as this might encourage more localised rust formation on the car affect the brakes (perhaps one side more than the other).

 

I don't know if printed concrete holds more water on its surface because it has some sort of sealant covering it and what if any additional affect that'd make.

 

Having lived in the same property for 41 years I think more recent winters have been generally more mild and more condensation around, last few years particularly I've seen more green moss(? I'm no gardener) on my plain concrete paths and different colours than I can ever remember seeing in the past and I live at the top of a hill where it can get quite blowy (I'm not a meteorologist either) at times.

 

If you can just lie on your printed concrete driveway and have a look at the brakes from the centre of your car and see if there's rust or other - or wait until its in the air on a lift in the garage and look at it then or just leave it to the garage.

 

Hopefully as you have low mileage you've based the car's servicing on time rather than distance, the brake fluid should have already been changed and due a change again or at least tested, brakes are the most important system on the car.  For the far less important engine servicing that most owners worry more about toot and I also think the air filter should be changed or at least checked more frequently than VWSkoda servicing suggests.

 

Let us know how you get on.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, nta16 said:

I don't know if printed concrete holds more water on its surface because it has some sort of sealant covering it and what if any additional affect that'd make.

 

Of course it holds more water than block paving, concrete is pretty much impermeable, more so with the impressioned or helicopter floated stuff, (you cannot print concrete), block paving is permeable, the newer stuff extremely permeable.

 

The OP's car is now sitting on pooling water, before it was on drained paving.

 

Unless the OP is an Octopus he is not going to be able to change his air filter while lying on his back trying to see brake discs hidden by a backplate to please you. At least this time you didnt tell them to charge their battery.

 

If you want to see rust on brake discs you simply need to look through the wheel spokes.

Edited 28 June, 20232 yr by J.R.

16 hours ago, Tdawber said:

hey peeps

excuse my incorrect terminology and general bad typing.

 are fabias renowned for brakes getting sticky when handbrake applied, is this a ‘thing’ on parking on a printed concrete driveway, when weather is wintery cold it is particularly bad.

 

i have a 68 plate colour edition. 

i never had this problem when parking on block paving, my handbrake is just weird recently.  i now keep it in gear with handbrake off, as my car got stuck once or twice.

Just a thought, but in addition to the different draining characteristics of printed concrete (i.e. none or very close to none), there may also be some splatter from falling rain as it bounces more off the printed concrete. It might be getting the brakes damper than on some other surfaces, which may cause the brakes to move less freely.

As I said, just a thought.

25 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

As you often do you have totally twisted what I put and seem unable to understand any subtlety.  I think you deliberately just want to jump in and belittle me  - please stop it.  You cannot know what drainage arrangement Tdawber's printed concrete driveway has unless you've seen it so cannot with your absolute certainty know that the "car is now sitting on pooling water".

 

thanks for your input everyone!!

i am a she.

i have a mechanical handbrake.

 

yeh i can say i dont have a driveway pooling with water, my drive  is well drained as i have plum slate around its edges. my car is driven at least every other day. 

i had a full service 2.5 years ago. 

 

i heard that cause concrete holds more cold than blockpaving that cars are more likely to get sticky on concrete.

 

id love to do a ‘project farm’ on it 😝

Cigar to toot, I was thinking you'd probably have disc rear brakes. 😄

 

Well the concrete floors on my sheds always seem very cold in winter.  In your photo even though the sun is out your drive and car seem to be mostly in the shade so not drying as quickly as perhaps some of the other drives in your street, lots of variables though.

 

You probably need to find other 2018 Fabia owners to see how their brakes perform as the brakes used in production could vary by supplier and/or quality or finish over any production period, not that it really matters as you have what you have.

 

Driving every other day should help to keep things moving more freely, my wife's car is generally used everyday and has rear discs and I changed the front discs and pads due to wear, I can't say I was impressed with the wear over such mileage it had but the car was bought s/h with 10k-miles on it with totally unknown history as it was a Dealership car so who knows what they did or didn't do with it.

 

If you have a good indy guy he'll be able to tell you and advise you about this matter, if he's good look after him they are so few now and getting rarer.

 

Be good if you can report back as it all adds to the knowledge bank for others.

 

My neighbour's car has just had to have two new front brake calipers due to rusty brakes as it rarely moves off the (old block paving) 'drive' but it is nearly 18 years old with only 28k-miles on it, as I've know the car from new I know it still has better brakes than my wife's 2015 VWSkoda Fabia has or had and it's "only a cheap Korean car".

 

iv had mine from new.

on block paving where we used to live in covid my car didnt stick once.

 

i will keep my journey posted!!

im booked in on 7 july

 

 

4 hours ago, nta16 said:

You cannot know what drainage arrangement Tdawber's printed concrete driveway has unless you've seen it

 

Yes I can, I did my first driveway 35 years ago and am still doing them.

 

Block paving drains around the edge of every brick through the jointing sand, the stuff that has been mandatory for a long time now has big gaps between filled with granular calcaire (I think), it would drain a tsunami.

 

Impressioned concrete is an impervious solid slab, no drainage whatsoever, if there is not a significant fall water will pool. It also fills every false joint groove and has nowhere to go.

Edited 28 June, 20232 yr by J.R.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/489482-rear-drum-brakes-sticking

 

OT but, Red Pavers much worse for holding the cold / ice / snow than Grey ones.     My mums parking area has red pavers.  Tragic.

 

I keep telling people who will listen but LIDL are as stupid to put red ones at Disabled parking bays in Scotland and where they might do no gritting.

But then there are places that paint the surface of a Disabled Bay or EV charging bay, like in my local.

 

Re,

'Full service 2.5 years ago.    Unless specified exactly what was done then unlikely to be that 'Full a service' if at a Skoda Main Dealers.

..................................

So the rear drums were always supposed to be part of Skoda Main Dealer Servicing at Major Services, bi-annual.

Remove drum and clean.

About 13 years ago it was showing as being done on Skoda Websites for Minor & Major Servicing, then they went to inspect / check  and that was through the spy hole on the back plate.

For many a year there are places that supposedly did service drum brakes that yet never have the wheels off the car by the time of the first or subsequent MOTS.

 

Plenty issues in the Mk2 Fabia section.  Car washing can be enough to have brakes sticking on.

There was the broken retaining spring issue for years.

 

There is the not able to get an alloy wheel off when eventually needs must, punctures etc because they have been on since fitted at the factory.

Loads of threads on that one.

 

 

Edited 28 June, 20232 yr by toot

16 hours ago, toot said:

Car washing can be enough to have brakes sticking on.

Can confirm my weekly wash leaves my disks with a covering of rust.

@EnterNameYip. And with cars with the Parking brake which is rear discs and with a drum and shoes as well/

 

Really i am meaning with drums in this thread. 

Wet roads,

then when washing cars and scooshing water at wheels you would not expect the H2o to get inside the drums, but it might just be condensation in some cases, because there is damp can get in there, and ice forming when the weather is cold enough.

Ground / grass temperature can be several degrees cooler than Air temp in winter. Even cold times not in winter.

Air temperature is taken at more than a meter above ground. 

Some car outside Temperatures are read at the front not that high up.  Some are read with the sensor on the door mirror. 

That is not the Ground / road temperature.

had my service today, grease applied to rear brake drums seems to have done the trick 😛