CR150 BRAKE UPGRADE

[Peebs101]

I have a a CR150 yeti and on my search here and YOC I can only see the that people upgrade the CR140 upgraded to the CR170. 

 

Can the same be done one the CR150? I believe I purchased the right carrier but it didn't fit. 

 

Can any one send me a link to the carrier I need or tell me I'm wasting my time. Thanks 

[idleness]

I haven't found a way yet, the calipers are different to the 140/170

I think that the Golf R hangers may work as I believe its the same caliper.

If you search for the caliper type that is on the 150 it comes up with Golf R parts.

Let us know if you do it.

[Carlston]

6 hours ago, Peebs101 said:

I have a a CR150 yeti and on my search here and YOC I can only see the that people upgrade the CR140 upgraded to the CR170. 

 

Can the same be done one the CR150? I believe I purchased the right carrier but it didn't fit. 

 

Can any one send me a link to the carrier I need or tell me I'm wasting my time. Thanks 

 

Looking on autodoc, it appears that only the most powerful Yeti with 170HP used the biggest 312x25mm front brake discs.

 

All of the lower powered models used either 280x22mm or 288x25mm front brake discs.

 

However, it always best to check your build codes to be sure what brakes were fitted in the factory.

 

Front brakes for Yeti

1ZF 280x22mm (ATE brake system)

1ZE 288x25mm (ATE brake system)

1ZA 312x25mm (ATE brake system)

 

Edited 7 August, 2023 by Carlston

[137699]

Having previously owned a CR170 and been mightily impressed with the brakes, I was disappointed when I bought the SCR150 which has brakes I would describe as "sufficient" but no more than this.

I too wanted to retrofit the CR170 brakes to to the SCR150 but it looks to be a path nobody has trodden due to complexity & cost.

 

So I have decided that if/when I replace the brakes on mine, I will fit my favourite Ferodo DS2500 pads which are quite simply outstanding in every application I have ever used them.

[Carlston]

30 minutes ago, 137699 said:

Having previously owned a CR170 and been mightily impressed with the brakes, I was disappointed when I bought the SCR150 which has brakes I would describe as "sufficient" but no more than this.

I too wanted to retrofit the CR170 brakes to to the SCR150 but it looks to be a path nobody has trodden due to complexity & cost.

 

The 288x25mm and 312x25mm front brakes on the Yeti use the same brake calipers.

 

So to convert from 288x25mm to 312x25mm just requires changing the front brake caliper carriers and the front brake discs.

 

ATE front brake carrier for 312x25mm front brake discs 5N0615125

312x25mm front brake disc 1K0615301AA

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[idleness]

22 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

The 288x25mm and 312x25mm front brakes on the Yeti use the same brake calipers.

This is undoubtedly true for the earlier 140/170 versions. They both use the FN3 caliper

However the 150 uses a different caliper so all bets are off until someone finds the 150  caliper in use with a 312 disc on another VAG car.

I can't find the table that lists the different calipers but it's on here somewhere.

[idleness]

150 calipers are made by Ate 582VL

And the type is VAG VCF251

Very different from the Bosch FN3

[Carlston]

15 minutes ago, idleness said:

This is undoubtedly true for the earlier 140/170 versions. They both use the FN3 caliper

However the 150 uses a different caliper so all bets are off until someone finds the 150 caliper in use with a 312 disc on another VAG car.

I can't find the table that lists the different calipers but it's on here somewhere.

 

The Skoda parts catalogue shows that the front brake calipers on the 288x25mm and 312x25mm are all the same, whether the early 2010 Yetis or the late 2018 Yetis.

 

The 288x25mm front brakes have build code 1ZE and the 312x25mm front brakes have build code 1ZA.

 

If different front brake calipers appeared on the 150HP Yeti, a different build code would have been used...and that's not the case.

 

Maybe you are confusing the front brake calipers used on the 280x22mm front brake discs, which do use different brake calipers.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[idleness]

I'm obviously wrong then🤔

Can you explain why the 170 hangers don't fit the 150?

My info on calipers came from here:

https://www.yetiownersclub.co.uk/threads/yetipedia-no1.2760/post-86089

 

[idleness]

It's looking like the 312 discs with the ATE calipers are used on the Golf 6 GTI.

Later models went for larger discs.

[Carlston]

35 minutes ago, idleness said:

Can you explain why the 170 hangers don't fit the 150?...

 

...Very different from the Bosch FN3

 

The Yeti 170HP uses bigger front brake discs than the Yeti 150HP, so the front brake carriers need to position the front brake calipers further from the centre of the axle.

 

On the Yeti, the front brake calipers are ATE and the rear brake calipers are either TRW or Bosch. So Bosch front brake calipers aren't used.

[Carlston]

54 minutes ago, idleness said:

I'm obviously wrong then

My info on calipers came from here:

https://www.yetiownersclub.co.uk/threads/yetipedia-no1.2760/post-86089

 

Someone's post on the "yetiownersclub" has a lot of mistakes, incorrectly claiming that most of the front brakes on the Yeti are Bosch. They aren't, because they are all ATE.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[idleness]

I know full well the differences in brake sizes between the various models,  I converted my 140 to the larger 170 discs. About 5 years ago.

You are the only one saying that the calipers are the same everyone else says not.

I await your evidence that it can be done preferably with documented pictures because without that I will stick with the majority.

 

 

 

[Carlston]

48 minutes ago, idleness said:

You are the only one saying that the calipers are the same everyone else says not.

 

As you can see in the chart below, build code 1ZE (288x25mm) and build code 1ZA (312x25mm) both use the same front brake calipers, ie. 1K0615123E and 1K0615124E.

 

TEVES is the same as ATE.

 

		front brakes TEVES/ATE 288x25mm 15"		PR-1ZE
1	1K0615123E	brake caliper housing	left	1
(1)	1K0615124E	brake caliper housing	right	1

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/yeti/yet/2010-666/6/615-615025/

 

		front brakes TEVES/ATE 312x25mm 16"		PR-1ZA
1	1K0615123E	brake caliper housing	left	1
(1)	1K0615124E	brake caliper housing	right	1

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/yeti/yet/2010-666/6/615-615030/

 

Left front brake caliper 1K0615123E (autodoc shows that this OEM part number is part of an ATE brake system)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/1k0615123e?search=OEN 1K0615123E&supplier[0]=3

 

Right front brake caliper 1K0615124E (autodoc shows that this OEM part number is part of an ATE brake system)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/1k0615123e?search=OEN 1K0615123E&supplier[0]=3

 

Even the front brake pads are the same for the 288x25mm and 312x25mm front brake discs. Different OEM part numbers, but these OEM part numbers link to the same brake pads.

 

Front brake pads for 288x25mm front brake discs 5K0698151 (ATE 13.0460-7184.2)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5k0698151?search=OEN 5K0698151&supplier[0]=3

 

Front brake pads for 312x25mm front brake discs 3C0698151C (ATE 13.0460-7184.2)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3c0698151c?search=OEN 3C0698151C&supplier[0]=3

 

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[Breezy_Pete]

But the 280s don't,  and that must be what's on this '150', no?

[idleness]

16 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

But the 280s don't,  and that must be what's on this '150', no?

It is looking that way, my car reg comes back on GSF parts with 280mm discs. 

So not an easy swap.

 

 

[Carlston]

45 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

But the 280s don't,  and that must be what's on this '150', no?

 

The Yeti 150HP uses 288x25mm front brake discs, not 280x22mm.

 

EBC brakes lists 288x25mm front brake discs for the Yeti 150HP 4x4

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/skoda/yeti/yeti-5l/115192-2-0-tdi-4x4?supplier[0]=6368&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Even the Yeti 140HP uses the 288x25mm front brake discs, and not the smallest 280x22mm.

 

However, to be sure it's always best to check the car's build codes.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[Carlston]

32 minutes ago, idleness said:

It is looking that way, my car reg comes back on GSF parts with 280mm discs. 

So not an easy swap.

 

GSF is listing 280x22mm, 288x25mm, and 312x30mm front brake discs for the Yeti 150HP 4x4, not just 280x22mm.

 

This means that GSF doesn't know what front brakes are fitted to your car.

 

If you send Pete your VIN, he will be able to tell you for sure what front brakes you have.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[idleness]

 

15 minutes ago, Carlston said:

EBC brakes lists 288x25mm front brake discs for the Yeti 150HP 4x4

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/skoda/yeti/yeti-5l/115192-2-0-tdi-4x4?supplier[0]=6368&criteria[100][1]=VA

 

Comes back with 280 as the first hit on that site so according to you  that's wrong as well 

 

 

[Carlston]

Stop guessing and send Pete your VIN.

 

You may have noticed if you've ever purchased parts from a Skoda parts department, that the first thing they ask for is your VIN.

 

This is because with the correct VAG computer system, the VIN brings up a list of all the parts that were fitted to your car as it went along the production line.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by Carlston

[idleness]

Who is Pete?

 

BTW my discs are 25mm thick cant measure the diameter easily.

 

Edited 8 August, 2023 by idleness

[Carlston]

Just now, idleness said:

Who is Pete?

 

Breezy_Pete who replied a few posts back.

[Carlston]

If you want all your car's build codes, there's an ebay seller who can supply them for about 3 Euros.

 

This is useful for many things, including being able to work out what brakes, springs, shock absorbers, etc. were fitted to the car in the factory.

 

"VIN skoda decoder factory options"

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224631127243

[Peebs101]

On 08/08/2023 at 15:56, Carlston said:

 

The Skoda parts catalogue shows that the front brake calipers on the 288x25mm and 312x25mm are all the same, whether the early 2010 Yetis or the late 2018 Yetis.

 

The 288x25mm front brakes have build code 1ZE and the 312x25mm front brakes have build code 1ZA.

 

If different front brake calipers appeared on the 150HP Yeti, a different build code would have been used...and that's not the case.

 

Maybe you are confusing the front brake calipers used on the 280x22mm front brake discs, which do use different brake calipers.

 

I have bought and tried the carriers from the 170 and they do not fit. Bolt holes are incorrect. So your theory doesn't add up unfortunately. 

 

The discs and pads fit no problem, but not the carrier 

Edited 10 August, 2023 by Peebs101

[Peebs101]

On 07/08/2023 at 18:52, idleness said:

I haven't found a way yet, the calipers are different to the 140/170

I think that the Golf R hangers may work as I believe its the same caliper.

If you search for the caliper type that is on the 150 it comes up with Golf R parts.

Let us know if you do it.

I will do some looking and see what I can see. But surely VAG didn't only fit this brake setup to a yeti and a golf R? 

 

The CR150 has the vag diesel "ea288" which is super popular across tiguan's, A5's, Karoq's etc. Surely one of those use the hubs and bigger brakes? 

Edited 10 August, 2023 by Peebs101