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We're planning on taking our Yeti to France and we need to pay for the Crit' Air sticker before we go.

 

https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/

 

But I can't find any info about what category our Yeti fits into - its a 2017 Outdoor (petrol) model.

 

Any info would be gratefully received.

I live in France and have a Yeti…and…...it does not have a Crit Air sticker.

 

Do you need one ?

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I tried calling Skoda, but they just told me (after a Google search) it was Euro 6 - but the crit'air website only shows categories from Euro 1 to 5.

 

However, there is a drop down option showing Euro 6 - which is apparently the equivalent of the French Euro 1 - so I am all sorted.

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Just now, MCAMRA said:

I live in France and have a Yeti…and…...it does not have a Crit Air sticker.

 

Do you need one ?

I think it depends on where you live in France. 

It only costs about €4 (which I think is for the lifetime of the vehicle) and if it helps avoid paying a possible €150 it's worth paying.

More info here...
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/law-change-for-uk-drivers-in-french-cities/

20 minutes ago, SimonJC said:

I think it depends on where you live in France. 

It only costs about €4 (which I think is for the lifetime of the vehicle) and if it helps avoid paying a possible €150 it's worth paying.

More info here...
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-news/law-change-for-uk-drivers-in-french-cities/

Yeti drives all over France. 

 

I think you will be crit air 1

 

 https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/

 

If you follow the link there is place for foreign vehicles.

 

If you want another sticker on your vehicle go for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Yeti is a CritAir free zone!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Others get great satisfaction out of looking for hoops to jump through, not me!

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So very J.R. :biggrin:

 

FWIW although not directly equivalent (surprise surprise there are no EU standards) the French Yellow 2 Crit-Air sticker is recognised in Spain as 'equivalent' to the Spanish green C sticker where LEZ's are already in place in Madrid and Barcelona and due to come in in many other towns and cities in the near future. The reverse however does not apply!

 

Unlike France, where it's perfectly possible to apply for a sticker for a non French registered vehicle, currently in Spain no such facility exists and it's unclear how foreign motorists are supposed to proceed without risk of penalty. 

 

It's suggested that they get a free pass presumably on the basis that the vast majority of foreign cars likely to be circulating in Spain will be of an age where they would qualify for a sticker anyway. Broadly the benchmarks are post Jan. 2006 for petrol cars (Euro 4 and above) and post Sept. 2015 for diesel (Euro 6).

Some good info in this thread, which I only happened across thanks to the 'new topics' email that dropped into my inbox.

 

We're off to France, Switzerland, Italy, Andorra and Spain at the end of next week, and I've applied for one of those Crit things on the basis that it'll be one less reason for some dissatisfied Gendarme to take out his inadequacies on this poor unsuspecting tourist. That's worth four euros to me.

 

On a vaguely related note, does anyone know if you still need to carry a spare bulb kit even when your vehicle's lights are all LED? I don't mean to hijack the thread but this question has been rattling around my head for a while now ...

1 minute ago, muppix said:

t'll be one less reason for some dissatisfied Gendarme to take out his inadequacies on this poor unsuspecting tourist.

 

It will never happen, only in peoples imagination nourished by scare stories in the media and on social media.

10 minutes ago, muppix said:

does anyone know if you still need to carry a spare bulb kit even when your vehicle's lights are all LED?

 

Never mind, answered my own question with info from here:
 

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Spare bulbs – It is recommended but not mandatory that you carry a spare bulb kit for your vehicle

 

55 minutes ago, KiNeL said:

So very J.R. :biggrin:

 

FWIW although not directly equivalent (surprise surprise there are no EU standards) the French Yellow 2 Crit-Air sticker is recognised in Spain as 'equivalent' to the Spanish green C sticker where LEZ's are already in place in Madrid and Barcelona and due to come in in many other towns and cities in the near future. The reverse however does not apply!

 

Unlike France, where it's perfectly possible to apply for a sticker for a non French registered vehicle, currently in Spain no such facility exists and it's unclear how foreign motorists are supposed to proceed without risk of penalty. 

 

It's suggested that they get a free pass presumably on the basis that the vast majority of foreign cars likely to be circulating in Spain will be of an age where they would qualify for a sticker anyway. Broadly the benchmarks are post Jan. 2006 for petrol cars (Euro 4 and above) and post Sept. 2015 for diesel (Euro 6).

 

 

 

That raised a smile.  I'll say no more.

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

It will never happen, only in peoples imagination nourished by scare stories in the media and on social media.


It could happen to be fair….but unlikely.

 

The thing about the Crit aiir sticker is…. nobody knows what it is for.

 

Not even sure I do Lol. The police certainly don’t. Makes an awful lot of money for the French government though. Run out of mugs in France so lets go for the Brits. The Dutch, Germans the Swiss…Polish…they don’t have one. The Brits being the Brits will get one. 

 

My wife has a Crit Air sticker on her super dooper 170 bhp planet destroying berline…..because she does actually need it going to work in Paris.
 

The car has a sport mode button that will destroy the planet even quicker if she wants. That car it Crit air 1. Lol….how does that work ? 

 

Oooh hang on…..its a money making scheme.  There are no rules.

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14 minutes ago, MCAMRA said:

The car has a sport mode button that will destroy the planet even quicker if she wants. That car it Crit air 1. Lol….how does that work ? 

You are probably thinking that climate change (CO2) emissions and urban air quality emissions are the same thing. They aren't. 

 

All internal combustion engines produce about the same amount of CO2 as each other, per litre of fuel burnt. That's the climate change issue.

 

Very big differences exist between cars/engines as to how much NOx and particulates they produce. That's the urban air quality issue.

 

Not really related to each other.

 

44 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

You are probably thinking that climate change (CO2) emissions and urban air quality emissions are the same thing. They aren't. 

 

All internal combustion engines produce about the same amount of CO2 as each other, per litre of fuel burnt. That's the climate change issue.

 

Very big differences exist between cars/engines as to how much NOx and particulates they produce. That's the urban air quality issue.

 

Not really related to each other.

 


OK….my transporter van is Crit air 2. No joke.

 

The nature of its shape, the weight it is pulling will burn more fuel than a small crappy French diesel car. It might produce less NOx and particulates but over a period of time it will produce more.

 

I guess.

 

And we are still trying to understand what the Crit air thing is all about.

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From an RAC webpage (Crit'Air clean air stickers - need to know for driving in France | RAC Drive)

"The system was introduced by the French government as a way to reduce harmful vehicle emissions in areas where air quality is poorest, such as larger towns and cities.

 

[My underlining]

 

So it's about emissions that are harmful to humans who breathe them in densely populated areas.

 

CO2 related to quantity of fuel used is a completely different problem.

 

47 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

From an RAC webpage (Crit'Air clean air stickers - need to know for driving in France | RAC Drive)

"The system was introduced by the French government as a way to reduce harmful vehicle emissions in areas where air quality is poorest, such as larger towns and cities.

 

[My underlining]

 

So it's about emissions that are harmful to humans who breathe them in densely populated areas.

 

CO2 related to quantity of fuel used is a completely different problem.

 

That is from RAC website. The reality is different,

 

Actually, Cit Air was introduced to only allow cars above a certain Crit air staus to enter a given city on high pollution days. Lets say Lyon, Greonble, Paris…etc. So if you are Crit Air 1-3 you are fine. Crappy cars…no good. Parisian range rover 4x4  sports are OK ?? 

 

Before, you would alternate on your number plate on high pollution days. Cars ending in an odd number for example could not enter.  The next day it would be even. Now it is the Crit Air system .

 

So yeah, unless you need a Crit Air to commute to work in a high pollution city, you don’t need one.

 

You can still go skiing In France in a Yeti without a crit air sticker. 
 

I think. Nobody knows.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, MCAMRA said:

Cit Air was introduced to only allow cars above a certain Crit air staus to enter a given city on high pollution days

I don't see a contradiction between this and what the RAC said, personally; but carry on telling me I'm wrong if it makes you happy, I've said all I want to on the subject now.  👍

34 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

I don't see a contradiction between this and what the RAC said, personally; but carry on telling me I'm wrong if it makes you happy, I've said all I want to on the subject now.  👍


I appreciate it is your last word.

 

But if you have time….look … at this…

 

https://www.lyon-france.net/2023/04/explications-zfe-lyon.html

 

This is just for Lyon. Get it ? I can read it…so I get it ?…….ummmm no actually…..lol.
 

You ask anyone in France what Crit Air means……and they will just shake their head.

 

So how is Johney Foreigner supposed to know ?

 

Will you get fined being a foreigner ?………no. 

 

Anyway it is 4O degrees outside today. Prefect time to visit France in Crit Air 1 car.
 

Vivre la France.

 

 

 

 

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