16 hours ago, Happy24 said:

Is your car also new? Does it also do it from the very start? Is it the same what I am experiencing - strange tingle / small vibrations or "springy" feeling in the pedal when changing the gear up, typicaly when the rpm are 2500 or higher?

Yes my 6speed 115 fabia is new ( from dec 23,2024 ) and I have felt it from the beginning. Can't pinpoint exactly when i feel it but I definitely do. My previous car ford ka did not have any vibration or "feeling" in the pedal like this one., It was dead, just a pedal. Only the gas pedal was a bit squeaky Hehe.

On 09/02/2025 at 21:12, szilvita said:

I also noticed a different "clutch feeling" in my foot when I changed to fabia. Some kind of tiny vibration. It's nothing wild...just different..I didn't feel anything in the old one when touching the clutch  so I have wondered what might give that feeling. Supposed it was because of the three cylinders or the turbo.... but what do I know...

Listen to me

few years ago 1.0 tsi manual transmission didnt have this problem

now they do

it is simply transmiting engine vibration through the clutch pedal

and nothing can be done

it is annoying but it is how it is

some skilfull mechanic could do something to improve the situation by adding better or more bushings (like theye were obviously before)

but otherwise changing components of the clutch pedal or clutch will not help

it is awfull but it is how it is

it is sad that before it was better

polo 1.0 tsi from 2019. - no clutch pedal vibration

rapid 1.0 tsi from 2018. - no clutch pedal vibration

tcross 1.0 tsi from 2021/2022 - no clutch pedal vibration

it could be that it is easy to fix it because the problem is somewhere from the clutch pedal till the spot that the clutch wirings are aattached to the engine

the problem is not in the clutch but in transmitting the vibrations

and 1.0 tsi has a lot of vibration - if we lift the hood and look at the engine idling you can see it vibrates a lot (it has no additional axe to stop vibration and it all relays on the engine mountings

Edited 10 March10 Mar by medley

7 minutes ago, medley said:

Listen to me

few years ago 1.0 tsi manual transmission didnt have this problem

now they do

it is simply transmiting engine vibration through the clutch pedal

and nothing can be done

it is annoying but it is how it is

some skilfull mechanic could do something to improve the situation by adding better or more bushings (like theye were obviously before)

but otherwise changing components of the clutch pedal or clutch will not help

it is awfull but it is how it is

it is sad that before it was better

polo 1.0 tsi from 2019. - no clutch pedal vibration

rapid 1.0 tsi from 2018. - no clutch pedal vibration

tcross 1.0 tsi from 2021/2022 - no clutch pedal vibration

it could be that it is easy to fix it because the problem is somewhere from the clutch pedal till the spot that the clutch wirings are aattached to the engine

the problem is not in the clutch but in transmitting the vibrations

and 1.0 tsi has a lot of vibration - if we lift the hood and look at the engine idling you can see it vibrates a lot (it has no additional axe to stop vibration and it all relays on the engine mountings

My guess and feeling is also that it's "just" a "less robust" pedal that somehow transmits the vibration and motion of the engine through the pedal.

I am not car expert nor do I have a lot of experience from other cars. So I don't know whether its normal or not.

2 hours ago, medley said:

Listen to me

That phrase usually has the opposite to the intended effect.

2 minutes ago, J.R. said:

That phrase usually has the opposite to the intended effect.

well....english is not my mother language....I just wanted to point that going to thedealers wont solve anything

Yes, medley and szilvita, what you write makes sense.

It is just difficult for me to let it sink in. You know - I was positively surprised by the reaction of the car mechanic that rode my car, who said right away it deffinitely wasn't normal and he had never experienced it. A couple of days later the same guy tells me that he rode another car and it was just the same, so it is normal. It looks like a mechanic from an official authorized service has no idea how a clutch pedal should work. If they at lest let me test the other car. But no.

Anyway, thank you both for all your imput, it is highly appreciated. If there is any progress, I will let you know.

2 minutes ago, Happy24 said:

Yes, medley and szilvita, what you write makes sense.

It is just difficult for me to let it sink in. You know - I was positively surprised by the reaction of the car mechanic that rode my car, who said right away it deffinitely wasn't normal and he had never experienced it. A couple of days later the same guy tells me that he rode another car and it was just the same, so it is normal. It looks like a mechanic from an official authorized service has no idea how a clutch pedal should work. If they at lest let me test the other car. But no.

Anyway, thank you both for all your imput, it is highly appreciated. If there is any progress, I will let you know.

Thank you

Acting of the mechanic is similar in all countries - if it is not broken there is nothing to fix + if it is only your car doin it so it is your subjective feeling/characteristic of the car + if 2 or more cars are doing so - it is all right because all of them do it

Keep us posted....I didnt go to the mechanic with this problem because I have bad experiences with my other (vw) new car with dealership and i am 100% sure that it cannot be done nothing to improve it or to solve it

(other cars (new) that I have tried (new ones with 1.0 tsi) have done the same + following other skoda forums or forums regarding 1.0 tsi(croatian, italian and german) prove me that I am right - nothing can be done

at first the problem seems like gone clutch/master cylinder/pressure plate/bushings form the clutch pedal - but nobady resolved the problem by changing thode components

7 minutes ago, Happy24 said:

Yes, medley and szilvita, what you write makes sense.

It is just difficult for me to let it sink in. You know - I was positively surprised by the reaction of the car mechanic that rode my car, who said right away it deffinitely wasn't normal and he had never experienced it. A couple of days later the same guy tells me that he rode another car and it was just the same, so it is normal. It looks like a mechanic from an official authorized service has no idea how a clutch pedal should work. If they at lest let me test the other car. But no.

Anyway, thank you both for all your imput, it is highly appreciated. If there is any progress, I will let you know.

I had similar experience with a sales person at skoda, confirming that my rear brake pads definitely should not look and sound like they did at 1.5 month old and that they should be changed under Warranty, yet the mechanics almost did not change them because he couldn't hear the sound (and the warranty folks would then not accept his change) that day and because he meant that the discs would pass the periodic technical inspection"(?dont know the word in english??). Yet after talking with me he changed his mind and changed them.... Still don't know why... If he was just testing me to see my reaction or....

rear brakes on many cars from VAG grupation are awfull

Even if I take a look or feel by fingers my rear discs on scala they look already worn and the car has 12.000 km

There is a problem with materials from what they are made off

I will be happy if they will las 24.000 km - we will see

and I drive car very carefully....

but that is another topic

I could say my negatives about scala:

• on start up the car infotainment that sometimes fails (active protection of components, rear camera not working)

it is pa problem because battery is to weak for the car + crowded in canbus + I drive my car rarely (once a week)

• clutch pedal vibrating as mentioned above

other things about the car are ok considerng this is a low cost car

2 hours ago, medley said:

other cars (new) that I have tried (new ones with 1.0 tsi) have done the sameI

I see, so you actually drove other cars that acted the same (I was aware you rode other older cars that didn'd do it, but I somehow missed this). That really somehow shows that this is really normal. I also read a couple of forums where some people describe this, but the cases are very scarse, I would imagine that way many more people would write about this. And yes, you are right - people usually describe that they got changed this and that and nothing ever helped and if, then only for a day or two...

And funny that you also mention the battery. We went on vacation the other day and I fully charged the battery. The car stood for 3 days and then we rode back for 2 hours (the start/stop turned off). I didn't measure the battery, but I would suppose it sould have been fully charged after the two-hour ride. The car stood in the garrage for 6 days and then, out of curiosity I checked the battery - it had 11.9 V. That really took me by surprise. I was also surprised that the car started without any problem.

So I read something sbout the EFB batteries and the intelligent charging and learned that it is also probably normal. Yet I don't believe it doesn't affect the battery and that it doesn't shorten its life-span.

Edited 10 March10 Mar by Happy24

4 hours ago, Happy24 said:

Yes, medley and szilvita, what you write makes sense.

It is just difficult for me to let it sink in. You know - I was positively surprised by the reaction of the car mechanic that rode my car, who said right away it deffinitely wasn't normal and he had never experienced it. A couple of days later the same guy tells me that he rode another car and it was just the same, so it is normal. It looks like a mechanic from an official authorized service has no idea how a clutch pedal should work. If they at lest let me test the other car. But no.

Anyway, thank you both for all your imput, it is highly appreciated. If there is any progress, I will let you know.

Okay, so I've been playing around with the clutch on my way home to be able to give you more details. I'll try to describe it as good as I can:

When I push down the clutch the very first, say, half an inch is soft, kind of loose, and then it "engages" and gives you some resistance. I feel the vibration in that very first bit of soft movement when the engine is actively working at bringing the car forwards. If I am just cruising/rolling/ slowing down and play with the clutch it is barely noticeable, maybe a tiny buzzing or not at all. As soon I pass that initial soft spot and get the resistance I have no vibration in my clutch. 

The engine has a deep rumbling sound when I drive it, which I make myself believe I also softly sense  (when paying attention, nothing uncomfortable or alarming at all) in the car when driving it, like in the steering wheel, when holding the stick.... I suppose it's the same thing that gives the feeling in the clutch. The 3 cylinder turbo engine doing its thing.......

Edited 10 March10 Mar by szilvita

5 hours ago, medley said:

if it is not broken there is nothing to fix + if it is only your car doin it so it is your subjective feeling/characteristic of the car + if 2 or more cars are doing so - it is all right because all of them do it

I like that! 👍

On 06/11/2023 at 09:48, medley said:

Scala my23, with 1.000 km

from day 1 there is a slight vibration on the clutch pedal in these circumstances only:

- when changing gear up (not down) on rpm higher tan cca 2.000-2.500 rpms

- only noticable when I initiate to press the clutch pedal (when pressed 1 inch toward carpet) - the pedal is not vibrating when fully pressed or fully released

- vibration is a feel on foot, not sound

 

gear changes are smooth, car does not vibrate when on idle, everything is fine.....just that feel on the foot.....i thought at first it was the rubber on the pedal against my shoe that makes that feeling, but when driving if i put my hand on the clutch pedal (its strange I know), and I push the pedal a litlle bit by hand it feels that it vibrates (not shaking, just a feel) - with increasing rpms it vibrates more, if rpm drop, the vibration is less noticable)

 

Should I worry?

Is it a characteristic of the car and I have been too sensitive ? (I am sensitive and had bad experiences with new cars, and I notice everything)

 

I think - since it is the 3 cylinder car, the vibrations from the engine ass to the gearbox and they must be felt somewhere, right?

 

I drove fabia my23 1.0 tsi manual 70kW - the whole car was shaking at idle, when stopped on the traffic light, maybe my concern about the scala is too much?

 

Thnx for the help, I appreciate that.

Ha. I've only now read your initial post thoroughly because, again, I had to check whether you or happy24 was the one starting the Thread (Bad memory..)...

Well seems to me like we feel more or less the same regarding the clutch..!..

more ore less every .0 tsi has some vibration

I drove fabia IV 1.0 tsi 95 ps with 8.000 km and it was shaking all when stopped on the lights un traffic

but to be honest, I have some old 1.6 petrol car and it also vibrates through the clutch but since it is a 4 cylinder - the vibration is less noticable and smooth

regarding the vibration of 1.0 tsi I believe nothing we can do about it

problem is city driving - long clutch pedal (course) and you must raise your heel from the ground to engage it (I have a feet of a small elephant and I had to raise it) + harder pedal than it could be + vibrations if changing gears past 2.500 rpms (+/-) - it is annoying......so quite car and than such a thing ruins it smoothness

but nothing could be done thaths for sure

batterys are rubbish - I somewhere read that it can be full only to 80% of capacity and that if it drops on 60% of capacity that it is below what "car thinks it is not enough"

and that the battery capacity is such as in that the car is not driven in 4 weeks it drains almost completly

mine sisters Rapid has original battery for almost 9 years......it is very strange but it is how it is

original vw batterys lasted 5-7 years at least

but know if our battery lasts 3 year it will be miracle

Yeap, the strange battery function and intelligent chargigng is due to emission regulations - if the battery is charged, the car consumes a bit more petrol, thus sliiiightly bigger emissions. The main real result of course is, that batteries have to be changed twice or even more often. Well, so much for the environment, that those inovations are supposed to be helping. But that is another discussion...

Edited 11 March11 Mar by Happy24

I was looking in my car yesterday:

brake pedal is made of steel

clutch pedal is made of plastics

maybe thats the reason why the vibrations are felt on clutch pedal and not on the brake pedal

also I found some old technical bulletin regarding the vibrations on the clutch pedal on some old vw models equipped with 1.9 tdi - they suggested it could be problem in frequency modulator - a part that minimizes vibration transfer through the clutch line to the pedal

• https://www.valeoservice.com/en-com/techassist/technical-document/hydraulic-dampers

Edited 19 March19 Mar by medley

Well, that is very interesting, that might be it. Which would mean, that while the feeling in the foot is strange and indeed uncomfortable, it probably doesn't do any harm to the clutch or anything else, which is important. The modifications described in that technical document are interesting, but I guess no service would agree to do it under the warranty. So not really a solution right now, but but good news nevertheless

Edited 20 March20 Mar by Happy24

11 minutes ago, Happy24 said:

Well, that is very interesting, that might be it. Which would mean, that while the feeling in the foot is strange and indeed uncomfortable, it probably doesn't do any harm to the clutch or anything else, which is important. The modifications described in that technical document are interesting, but I guess no service would agree to do it under the warranty. So not really a solution right now, but but good news nevertheless

Yes, thats right

if somebody would give you 4 cilinder car with manual transmission now - you would feel the vibration on the clutch pedal as well.....but they are more comfrtable since the vibrations of the 4 cylinder are "more comfortable"

+ the vibrations would not be so evident if the path of the clutch pedal would be shorter....it is a rather long way to push the clutch pedal to the bottom on scala

nevertheless if i would know this before i wouldnt buy this car

for clutch life the vibrations are not so important - but moving from the standstill is....it is a bit weird if the person is not ussed to do it with 1.0 tsi from nowadays (I have written about it too)

On 19/03/2025 at 09:04, medley said:

I was looking in my car yesterday:

brake pedal is made of steel

clutch pedal is made of plastics

maybe thats the reason why the vibrations are felt on clutch pedal and not on the brake pedal

also I found some old technical bulletin regarding the vibrations on the clutch pedal on some old vw models equipped with 1.9 tdi - they suggested it could be problem in frequency modulator - a part that minimizes vibration transfer through the clutch line to the pedal

• https://www.valeoservice.com/en-com/techassist/technical-document/hydraulic-dampers

Figure 5 in the link has finally resolved my long held enigma of what the round units are in my clutch line that from outward appearance appear to do nothing but create a 90° elbow in the pipe run, now I know what their function is.

None of the on line parts diagrams gave them a name which describes their real function.

VAG probably need to have units for the 3 cylinder engines with different membrane and spring ratings, I bet they are using the same ones across the range.

Edited 20 March20 Mar by J.R.

2 minutes ago, J.R. said:

VAG probably need to have different units for the cylinder engines, I bet they are using the same ones across the range.

yes, I think the parts for the cars are less individualized than before

and if vw/skoda would know that the vibrations could be prevented by putting specific parts for specific models/engines - it would be better

lets say that someone gets from the dealership whatever type of replacement parts because the car has noticable vibrations on the clutch pedal

- it will not improve anything

-at first service guys think it is a faulty DMF

-more experience service guys think it is the push bearing on the clutch(I dont know the exact word for it)

-brave service guys think it is the problem of master cylinder

-enthusyastic service guys think it is the clutch pedal itself that has to be replaced

the result of above:

-parts that would be replaced are replaced with the same that you already have on your car and nothing will improve

-your new car would be torn apart and nothing is improved

-in the dealers computer your car would be marked because of your complaints and worked that has been done as faulty

-even the deale may not take your car when you buy new one becaouse of it

so, lets say....the fault (vibration) is because of the design of some part that is not as much individualized for 3 cylinder engine/clutch

it could be improved only if clutch parts would be changet with non original, better parts (warranty on car could be lost etc.) - it could be improved we dont know if it would be for 100%

end the reason why it vibrates is simple and the cost of repair could be only few euros

I am sure that rhe problem is in those "lines" of clutch - maybe it is only because they lay down of the chasis in the engine bay and they vibrate because of the vibrations of the engine itself

above mentioned problems with the dealers and marks in the computer with the car - that was the thing with my previous car, and it was awfull

so when I am at the service with scala and they ask me how it is:

• I dont say that it vibrates

• I dont say that the infotainment goes a little bit in a way that it should not (components active bla-bla)

• because they cannot do nothing about it - they would if it would be their pesonal car, but for us customers - no

why it doesnt bother me so much anymore - well, the products are all the same - they are faulty, even the cars

why I dont react about the infotainment - because I know it is a problem of voltage and bad batterys put in our car, as simply as that

and the last thing - I bought the car in late 2023., but some electric cable around the battery is marked as produced in 2021. - should I asd the dealership about that too or they dont give a damm of that matter too

The lines don't vibrate, it is pressure pulsations passing up through the fluid, they are caused by the harmonic vibrations in the crankshaft fluttering the crankshaft back and forwards against the main bearing thrust washers which oscillates the concentric slave cylinder piston back and forth, it happens on the 4 cylinder diesel engines but is more apparent on the 3 cylinder petrol engines.

The pressure pulsations pass back through the fluid to the master cylinder pushrod and hence to the clutch pedal where the driver can feel them, the hydraulic damper attenuates these fluctuations, the membrane and spring are well sized for the diesel engines but I speculate they are using the same ones on the petrol engines or have perhaps not fitted them at all to save money.

If you look at an on line parts diagram you will see them if they are fitted as standard equipment, you could also check the part number to see what other engines they are fitted to.

is this problem solved?

in what way solved?

it cannot be solved, and it depends on the model of the car in which 1.0 tsi is installed

for sure it is that the clutch on 1.0 tsi is worse than it used to be than few years ago

and remember - it is not a manufacturer problem if it is only not comfortable for the driver - if it works it is ok, if it is not comfortable for the driver - its his fault

+ if it is a problem of 1 car = it is a driver problem

+ if it a problem of 2 or more cars - than it is not a problem, but a regular way the car works

It’s true.

I noticed that I can feel it on the clutch pedal between 2500 and 3000 RPM. Sometimes I even seem to hear something quietly. But above 3000 RPM, there’s no sensation at all.

Above the 3000 roms vibrations are notable but then everything feels different (speed, overall vibeations, noise)

But when you go slower and change gears betwren 2500 and 3000 rpms since the car is very smooth and quiet - it is noticable and annoying for the left foot.

My other 4 cylinder car has also some "feeling" on clutch pedal but it cannot be called vibrations since it is 4 cylinder

The problem is that old rapid or golf 7 with 1.0 tsi - clutch doesnt vibrate....so, the newer the car is it is worde regarding vibrations, squeeks and feeling on the foot