Hello guys,

 

Tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything so I do apologize if it was already mentioned. 

 

I have the 2018 Superb L&K - 2.0 CR 150

 

I want to remap it to gain some torque and bhp. When I bought the car from the dealership 2 months ago, when the driver was on the way to my house the DSG broke down. They took it to a Skoda dealership and turned out it was the mechatronic needing changed. 

 

Skoda did buy the new mechatronic and fitted it along with new DSG filters and oil. 

 

Car has only 59k miles on the clock. My questions is should I also be mapping the DSG alongside the Engine remap? 

 

The guy who would be doing the map for me advised against the DSG map since I told him i mainly do city driving with a 1x a week longer trip.

 

He said an engine map will be enough. When I asked him about torque limits on the DSG he told me there is nothing to worry about since these boxes were "made to withstand 1000Nm of torque" his words exactly. 

 

What do you guys suggest? 

 

Thanks

Is it the DQ250 gearbox?  They are quite well known to tuners (although maybe not 1000Nm!!!) and are quite reliable.  Was the gearbox serviced at 40k miles?  My suspicion would be no due to the failure at 59k.

The 2.0 tdi takes a tunes quite happily but make sure you have done all the relevant servicing.

I didn't do a dsg tune on my octavia (DQ250) but did have a pedal box installed which solves 70% of the gear change issues that people complain about.  Combined with the engine tune it make the car far more eager to change gear when asked.

I'd be a bit concerned about the comment about torque limits of 1000 Nm being quoted.  Even the DQ500 which we have in our 190 TDI Karoq, is rated to only 600 Nm.  Which tuning company did you speak to to?

 

I've used Angel Tuning Scotland to map two TDI's to date.  That includes the 150 TDI in my Yeti.  I'd be inclined to talk to Paul Winston at Angel.  He's a hell of a nice guy and knows his stuff.  

To be fair buddy, I don't know if it's the DQ250. It's the 7 gear DSG. How or where do I check the gearbox model? 

 

I'm pretty sure the gearbox never got serviced and also thought that was the reason of it failing. But I still went with the purchase since they put brand new mechatronic with it and also serviced it. Cost the dealer £1899 to fix. 

 

What pedal box would you recommend? Was looking at the DTUK ones recently. 

 

So you're saying that a remap + a pedal box would be more than enough? 

21 minutes ago, Schtum said:

I'd be a bit concerned about the comment about torque limits of 1000 Nm being quoted.  Even the DQ500 which we have in our 190 TDI Karoq, is rated to only 600 Nm.  Which tuning company did you speak to to?

 

I've used Angel Tuning Scotland to map two TDI's to date.  That includes the 150 TDI in my Yeti.  I'd be inclined to talk to Paul Winston at Angel.  He's a hell of a nice guy and knows his stuff.  

 

Yeah to be honest the comment had me questioning the reliability of that garage. Was in fact away to ask another question on here for any good garages to do remaps around Aberdeenshire areas. Will look into the one you mentioned. Thanks

3 minutes ago, Tym94 said:

 

Yeah to be honest the comment had me questioning the reliability of that garage. Was in fact away to ask another question on here for any good garages to do remaps around Aberdeenshire areas. Will look into the one you mentioned. Thanks

 

You're welcome.  Angel Tuning are mobile and will come to you.  I have no financial interest in them but I like Paul and he's become a good friend.  https://angeltuningscotland.co.uk

@Tym94Welcome.

 

Who is the guy that will be doing the tuning, is he a man with a van or premises someplace?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Rooted said:

@Tym94Welcome.

 

Who is the guy that will be doing the tuning, is he a man with a van or premises someplace?

 

 

The guy was reffered by a friend of mine. He's got a garage in town. Was on the phone to him yesterday for about 20 mins questioning everything. He also said he does Ad blue removals. When I asked about DPF removal he told me at only 59k miles there is no point doing it yet, but mentioned once I get passed 100k it might be worth removing the DPF and EGR (as the egr tends to melt) that's at lest what he told me. How do I check my DSG model? Will I need an obd reader for that? As I'm thinking about buying the obd11 to coding in a couple of bits and bobs to my car. 

@Tym94He would not want his or his garages name out there then if he is prepared to do DPF removal for customers. 

Just now, Rooted said:

@Tym94He would not want his or his garages name out there then if he is prepared to do DPF removal for customers. 

That's why no names were mentioned 😅 just stating the fact that it is a fully fledged garage and not some random boy in a van.

@Tym94Just as bad really.  But it is you that could get the fine,  and then it is those that have a MOT Station and do DPF removal or cat or some REmaps for Pops and bangs that the DVSA are starting taking actions against.

Not necessarily how I wanted the post to end up. Was really wanting some advise on remapping the car and should I be mapping the gearbox along with the engine remap.

Hardly necessary to remap the DSG for Stage 1 and some town driving and long trips if you are going to drive as you do now and just maybe use extra oomph for overtaking and not for traffic light sprints.

As the mechanic already told you.

9 minutes ago, Rooted said:

Hardly necessary to remap the DSG for Stage 1 and some town driving and long trips if you are going to drive as you do now and just maybe use extra oomph for overtaking and not for traffic light sprints.

As the mechanic already told you.

Biggest reason I want more power is as you said for overtaking and also to get a bit more mpg. Just wanted to confirm what my mechanic said was right.

 

Also how do I check my dsg model please?

 

Thanks 

One last question and I won't pester yous anymore. Was also looking into the DTUK chipboxes. Any advantages/disadvantages of one over a remap? The chip box is more expensive that's for sure as the garage quoted me £230 for the remap. 

15 minutes ago, Tym94 said:

Biggest reason I want more power is as you said for overtaking and also to get a bit more mpg. Just wanted to confirm what my mechanic said was right.

 

Also how do I check my dsg model please?

 

 

You'll only get better fuel consumption if you don't use the extra power.  A DSG remap will optimise the shift points and clamping pressure on the clutches to handle the extra torque.  

 

Is yours a 7 speed DSG?

 

3 minutes ago, Schtum said:

 

You'll only get better fuel consumption if you don't use the extra power.  A DSG remap will optimise the shift points and clamping pressure on the clutches to handle the extra torque.  

 

Is yours a 7 speed DSG?

 

It is indeed a 7 speed DSG

3 minutes ago, Tym94 said:

One last question and I won't pester yous anymore. Was also looking into the DTUK chipboxes. Any advantages/disadvantages of one over a remap? The chip box is more expensive that's for sure as the garage quoted me £230 for the remap. 

 

I wouldn't consider a remap at that price.  It'll just be a generic flash.  A map from Angel Tuning, for example, would be c £450.  They'd download your original one, send it to HQ, have it optimised for your car and then that would be sent back and installed in your ECU.

 

Tuning boxes work up to a point.  I have one that I installed in a couple of previous Tiguans.  However, you might want to view the Darkside Developments YouTube video where they test a number of tuning boxes.  They don't live up to their claims and they don't achieve power gains in the best way. 

2 minutes ago, Tym94 said:

It is indeed a 7 speed DSG

 

In a FWD only car, that should be a DQ380, wet clutch, 7 speed, I believe. 

11 minutes ago, Schtum said:

 

I wouldn't consider a remap at that price.  It'll just be a generic flash.  A map from Angel Tuning, for example, would be c £450.  They'd download your original one, send it to HQ, have it optimised for your car and then that would be sent back and installed in your ECU.

 

Tuning boxes work up to a point.  I have one that I installed in a couple of previous Tiguans.  However, you might want to view the Darkside Developments YouTube video where they test a number of tuning boxes.  They don't live up to their claims and they don't achieve power gains in the best way. 

Thanks for clarifying that for me. So the garage I was away to do it at would pretty much be a general software flashed into the cars ECU as opposed to a one fully customized to my car yes? Sorry this will be my first time remapping a car. 

 

Angel tuning is based in Kilmarnock from what I've seen. I'm away to Wales in early March, perhaps I could have a detour and stop at their garage? Do they do it on the spot? 

9 minutes ago, Tym94 said:

Thanks for clarifying that for me. So the garage I was away to do it at would pretty much be a general software flashed into the cars ECU as opposed to a one fully customized to my car yes? Sorry this will be my first time remapping a car. 

 

Angel tuning is based in Kilmarnock from what I've seen. I'm away to Wales in early March, perhaps I could have a detour and stop at their garage? Do they do it on the spot? 

 

Angel Tuning are mobile and will come to you.   Either contact them via their website to which I posted the link above or via their Facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/angeltuningscotland

Edited 1 February, 20242 yr by Schtum

5 minutes ago, Schtum said:

 

Angel Tuning are mobile and will come to you.   Either contact them via their website to which I posted the link above or via their Facebook page.  https://www.facebook.com/angeltuningscotland

Thank you very much for all info guys. Will contact Angel tuning as would rather have my car optimized than just getting the same ECU file flashed into the car that everyone else gets. 

It might well be a DQ381 which are used for FWD or AWD, but the DQ380,s were used in China but in Europe as far as i know. 

 

Plenty do remaps in Aberdeen and are Established someone local can maybe recommend another than the one your friend did.

Out at Westhills i was told was good but then again that was just someone telling me.

http://dj-autos.com

 

A good place i would trust is at Braco so near Dunblane and your are going that way.

Edited 1 February, 20242 yr by Rooted

8 hours ago, Tym94 said:

What pedal box would you recommend? Was looking at the DTUK ones recently. 

 

So you're saying that a remap + a pedal box would be more than enough? 

 

I have the dtuk one. Easy to install and able to transfer to other cars. Mine came from a golf gtd and has been on my old diesel Octavia and now my Passat gte. All with no recoding.

 

I would also suggest that a pedal box with no remap is a worthy option. If you can find a used one then maybe give it a shot as you will lose very little if you wanted to sell it on.

On 01/02/2024 at 16:18, Tym94 said:

What pedal box would you recommend? Was looking at the DTUK ones recently. 

 

There's a pedal box going in the for sale section (nothing to do with me)