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Severe Conditions Servicing Schedule?

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I have read in owners manuals of various manufacturers that frequently:

- doing short trips (5 miles or less)

- stopping and starting

- idling for long periods 

(basically London driving 😂 where i am),

constitutes as severe conditions for the car, and thus typically recommend twice as frequent servicing. (E.g. If normally oil every 12k miles, it should be 6k miles, and so on). 

 

Completely fine by me. The question is, would this logically extend to the DSG transmission oil? Instead of 40k miles, should it become 20k?

 

Thanks.  

 

Yes, stopping and starting is where all the wear happens.  This is why a higher mileage motorway beater is a better buy than a lower mileage town runaround 👍

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3 minutes ago, GrizzledBear said:

Yes, stopping and starting is where all the wear happens.  This is why a higher mileage motorway beater is a better buy than a lower mileage town runaround 👍

So you would do the transmission twice as often also?

Yes. 

 

Anything with friction material/constant moving parts I would replace twice as frequently - engine/gearbox/haldex and less so parts that are at rest when stationary - diffs/angle boxes etc. 

 

If budget is less of a concern, then just half every service interval - it can only ever benefit the vehicle.

 

DQ250 DSG fine at 40,000 mile intevals. 

 

(There is no DSG servicing for a DQ200 @ 40,000 miles.  )

 

Any Skoda TSI or TDI engine recommendation is not about 'Severe Conditions',    Being used like a TAXI.

Just why a Fixed Oil & Filter change should be used, 9,400 miles / 372 days or less and not a Variable Service Regime.  24 months , 18,000-20,000 miles.

 

You can use VW 504 00 / 507 00 for fixed or Variable Oil changes, or just do not use Long Life oil, use the VW502 00 for fixed oil change intervals. 5w 40 fs. 

 

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8 minutes ago, GrizzledBear said:

Yes. 

 

Anything with friction material/constant moving parts I would replace twice as frequently - engine/gearbox/haldex and less so parts that are at rest when stationary - diffs/angle boxes etc. 

 

If budget is less of a concern, then just half every service interval - it can only ever benefit the vehicle.

Thank you. Its getting to 120k now on the same gearbox and timing chain etc (2.0 TSI with DQ250 DSG transmission). So looking to to double down on services. 

 

I cover 20k every 2.5 years or so, and dsg service is £250 at a specialist independent. Not crazy money. 

 

Everything else I can do myself. Even with high quality oil, a standard service would only cost me £60 a go. Twice a year. 

 

Plus other filters here and there as needed, probably average somewhere in the region of £300 a year servicing. (Outside tyres etc)

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3 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

There is a Fabia Mk2 section. 

 

There is no DSG servicing for a DQ200 @ 40,000 miles.  

 

A 2012 Fabia or any Skoda TSI or TDI engine recommendation is not about 'Severe Conditions',  

Just why a Fixed Oil & Filter change should be used, 9,400 miles / 372 days or less and not a Variable Service Regime.  24 months , 18,000-20,000 miles.

 

You can use VW 504 00 / 507 00 for fixed or Variable Oil changes, or just do not use Long Life oil, use the VW502 00 for fixed oil change intervals. 5w 40 fs. 

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Thanks so much for the comprehensive reply ootohere!!

 

I've just updated my profile as I have just bought a 2016 Superb 2.0 TSI with the 6 speed DQ250. 

 

The dsg has already had services at least at 38k, 82k and 102k ( it's been surprisingly difficult to get complete history from one single dealer - every dealer I ring  unearths more service history for my car!). The previous owner got it serviced at Skoda every 6 months. It's pretty mint. 

 

My thinking is, as the car ages, the services should be at least just as frequent, but likely more!

Sorry i edited the first post i made.

 

I some how thought i was reading about a Fabia.

 

IMO, Stick to the 40,000 mile servicing of the DQ250, oil and filter, it is not made of chocolate. 

Not to save money, just because this inteval is fine.

When were the spark plugs replaced, when was the Air Filter replaced? 

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Just now, Ootohere said:

Sorry i edited the first post i made.

 

I some how thought i was reading about a Fabia.

 

IMO, Stick to the 40,000 mile servicing of the DQ250, oil and filter, it is not made of chocolate. 

Not to save money, just because this inteval is fine.

Thanks. I had mechatronics issues in the fabia, so just being extra careful. I reasoned oil changes would help it keep it from premature failure!

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6 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

When were the spark plugs replaced, when was the Air Filter replaced? 

Spark plug last done at 84k. Air filter at 75k (that's over due I guess - I've always done it annually. What's £15 and 15mins). 

Look at the Air Filter, see the condition.

 

Apples and Pears as far as a DQ250 DSG and a DQ200 DSG. .

 

Your Fabia had Twin Dry Clutches and 2 oils in the Box and MCU, and was subject to Service Campaigns, Oil changes for the MCU under these, or software updates.

 

The Wet Clutch DSG,s are 1 oil in the box and MCU.    The wear issue is very small if anything.   If DMF or Clutches need replaced they need replaced. 

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47 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Look at the Air Filter, see the condition.

 

Apples and Pears as far as a DQ250 DSG and a DQ200 DSG. .

 

Your Fabia had Twin Dry Clutches and 2 oils in the Box and MCU, and was subject to Service Campaigns, Oil changes for the MCU under these, or software updates.

 

The Wet Clutch DSG,s are 1 oil in the box and MCU.    The wear issue is very small if anything.   If DMF or Clutches need replaced they need replaced. 

 

In first gear theres a slight vibration when setting off/biting point when it's cold. Not sure if that's a clutch or flywheel issue but let's see how far it takes me 😂

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