Probably something thats been addressed before - but I'm looking to replace the DMF and clutch on 1.6tdi octavia with dq200 but finding it very hard to actually find what parts I need to buy online

a few stores reference OE numbers, but thats not a lot of use without knowing what the original part number is..? is it a case of go to the dealer, get a quote and use the numbers they provide on the quote sheet to shop around for parts?

No luck with parts from main websites (euro, GSF etc) - but looking at AUTODOC and similar they have many different models listed, but none that seem to line up with mk3 1.6tdi dq200. Ditto the flywheel?

And does the car require any coding after doing this swap? from what I've read online it seems like it will??
 

 

Any help at all appreciated, including everyone telling me not to bother attempting it myself because its not worth the hassle 😂😂

(And yes I know I'll need the special tools)

I have also considered taking the gearbox out and just taking it to a gearbox place for them to do the clutch and just doing the flywheel myself? mainly because it saves the hassle of buying the right clutch

However I'd rather have the car sorted out sooner rather than later

 

Watch this and decide if it's worth the agg.

On 16/12/2024 at 22:22, Blue66 said:

Any help at all appreciated, including everyone telling me not to bother attempting it myself because its not worth the hassle

I suppose it depends on what you enjoy or what to do.  If your car is a hobby and there is no timeline, go ahead, order the parts, do it as/when you have time/inclination to do it.  If you use it for getting to work etc and its a necessity, then getting a specialist to do it probably the way forward.  Consider finding a good independant VAG specialist and ask them for a price for a new clutch pack and flywheel.

6 hours ago, varaderoguy said:

I suppose it depends on what you enjoy or what to do.  If your car is a hobby and there is no timeline, go ahead, order the parts, do it as/when you have time/inclination to do it.  If you use it for getting to work etc and its a necessity, then getting a specialist to do it probably the way forward.  Consider finding a good independant VAG specialist and ask them for a price for a new clutch pack and flywheel.

Well I'm lucky enough to have 2 cars so I'm thinking I'll just give it a go, have watched a few more videos now, doesn't look like its too awful of a job, probably worth the labour saving.. 
I've found all the right parts for sure now, emailed a few suppliers with my VIN to make sure

@Blue66  Where are you borrowing the tools necessary to do the work? 

I was planning to buy 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226468961663?chn=ps&_ul=GB&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1hfdCVvSUSEmvkTpYk5EHog29&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=226468961663&targetid=2360873003490&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1006567&poi=&campaignid=21690875706&mkgroupid=169793746720&rlsatarget=pla-2360873003490&abcId=10027099&merchantid=5453671001&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_Lr1ffUAsb09JHE0sSzdtwIaX4f&gclid=CjwKCAiAgoq7BhBxEiwAVcW0LLoAjLmzNCKlziLceaMhWieEpYMo-jIbOwoFCag80NrvWgB8R_MCuhoCqCsQAvD_BwE

 

I don't know anyone with the tools so I was going to make do with this and anything else I need I will make (got access to a machine shop)

 

Possibly a little late.

Schaeffler Vehicle Lifetime Solutions Online Catalog

 

LUK technical dept were very helpful in confirming the kit needed when I swapped out mine in Nov 23 on the drive.

 

If your 2wd thats one less issue - oh the fun of getting that prop back in.

Its not technically difficult to do but gravity really isnt your friend.

35 minutes ago, Igol said:

Possibly a little late.

Schaeffler Vehicle Lifetime Solutions Online Catalog

 

LUK technical dept were very helpful in confirming the kit needed when I swapped out mine in Nov 23 on the drive.

 

If your 2wd thats one less issue - oh the fun of getting that prop back in.

Its not technically difficult to do but gravity really isnt your friend.

Agree with above. Problem is getting car high enough to get box out and lifting it back in. Bought a engine cross bar for supporting box and engine which made it a lot easier.

Sons fabia could have had two different diameter clutch and they got back to me within the day confirming parts and sizes. Have been fitting LUK clutches for years and had no problems with them.

 

Alasdair

16 minutes ago, Alasdair1 said:

Agree with above. Problem is getting car high enough to get box out and lifting it back in. Bought a engine cross bar for supporting box and engine which made it a lot easier.

Sons fabia could have had two different diameter clutch and they got back to me within the day confirming parts and sizes. Have been fitting LUK clutches for years and had no problems with them.

 

Alasdair

Me too.

 

Still took 8 hours, but the majority of that was mm adjustments of height and then going back under to try to push the engine forward and the prop back.

 

Wifes Fiesta was a dream by comparison at 4 hours.

Ended up managing to pull gearbox aside enough to get to clutch etc without having to remove completely. Just left it suspended swinging. Main problem with fabia is the steel plate/gasket between engine and gearbox. It catches the gearbox flange on drivers side. I ended up pulling locating pins from engine and puting them in gearbox so the plate could drop enough to get the flange past it. Was a bit tricky lining it up again but managed it eventually afterwards, as you said raising and lowering a few mm at a time. would have been easier if I had someone else to help raise lower it

Not too bad a job but I just took my time. Definitly worth changing slave cylinder while you are at it. Think drive shaft bolts are those triple suare spilne rather than torx etc

Alasdair

thanks all

done between Christmas and new year 

just had a proper (2000ish mi) test drive down France and back, all seems good still

made the engine brace up myself and luckily had a 2post ramp I could use from a mate. 
While I was in there I took the mechatronic off the side of the gearbox in order to aid putting the oil back in easier (and to check the reverse and 6th fork bearing) and found that there's a handful of magnets (8 I think) which were totally blocked up with iron filings so obviously cleaned them out and new oil too. (which really doesn't seem like it should be sealed for life it definitely smelt like off gear oil when it came out 

 

 

 

Brought the clutch&flywheel from Parts In Motion who verified against my VIN that the parts were right 

Made my own shimming tools from some dimensions I found online that match the very expensive LUK kit. Landed more or less in the middle of the shim range so seems right. 

Brought £50ish puller/press set from eBay for removal and reinstallation which was worth it, but apart from that didn't have to buy any tools 

gearbox was very fiddly to get out but easier to get back in again

had to take the cv drive cup off the engine side to be able to navigate it round the engine, as mentioned above the little metal shim between the engine and gearbox is also a pain. definitely made a lot easier by a proper lift and transmission jack

hopefully this helps someone else in the future as when I was looking there wasn't much available online but after days of looking about managed to save £100s in buying LUK tools 

I reckon mine cost about £180-£200 pounds in total which was a lot cheaper than the £700 quote I got from the only mobile mechanic that answered my messages. Wasn't too sure it was the clutch that had instantly failed or gearbox. Suddenly no drive at all with no prior slipping. Luckily clutch disc had totalled itself on the pressure plate side. All that was left was shiny metal and a pile of clutch disc shavings in and around the starter motor. Don't know what a garage would charge these days. Cars now done around 800 miles so reckon I maanaged to do job ok. That shim is a nightmare. It gets caught on everything. I suppose their sealed for life (100,000miles/10 years). As long as it lasts the waranty skoda will be happy.

Alasdair

thats exactly the problem, they only build things to last warranty now, which is all 'sealed for life' means which is a shame. not really difficult to change though 

and changing the clutch isn't really that bad considering everyone online says most gearbox places 'wont touch a dq200' 🤷‍♂️

I find that as long as you take your time and label bolts etc even the big awkward jobs are doable and not too bad. I am a stickler for everything going back exactly the way it was and torqued up properly. The number of times I have found things missing or nuts without washers loose bolts etc when I have put cars into garages or worse if its been a body repair shop!!!  Drives me mad. If your changing or repairing it needs to be done right. Worse job I tackled was a toyota lucida turbo diesel cylinder head. Its mid engined under the seats and has an aux drive shaft to the front so you work in the vehicle then underneath and so on. I think from memory its around 250-300 nuts and bolts to remove seats and floor pan,then manifolds/turbo, head, rocker cover camshaft etc and timing belt as your as well changing it while its apart. Managed eventually and had none left over when put back together. Loads of bits of cardboard with holes to remind me as the bolts are all different lengths. I still have it but not on the road right now as 30MPG on a good day  plus £400 road tax was getting too much. Pity as its an amazing people carrier to drive.

Well done 

Alasdair