Gen 5

Gen 6

Controller ist no include in the Pump

Edited 13 May13 May by Cairus

As a little extra, even the VW R models, Audi RS3, and Mercedes A-Class AMG, Cupra etc...have a multi-plate friction clutch; only the high-performance models have two of them, and the preload is achieved differently. However, the complete system isn't a VW or Audi development. It also comes from our company. Currently, we're offering the electrification of this model. 😜

Edited 14 May14 May by Cairus

2 years. Comes from @varooom who is sadly no longer here but definitely from the inside and pretty much font of all knowledge.

42 minutes ago, travs said:

2 years. Comes from @varooom who is sadly no longer here but definitely from the inside and pretty much font of all knowledge.

Sorted. Interestingly, the DLBA is a Gen3 engine!

21 hours ago, Cairus said:

Gen 6

Controller ist no include in the Pump

Cheers for this Cairus. Is the controller software entirely different too? I was looking at Haldex tuning and it seems there are only tuning offers up to Gen5. Mine is Gen6 😢

@travs

You drive a Superb 3, what year is it? I don't recall the Superb 3 ever getting a Haldex 6. But I don't know all the details offhand.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of optimizing the Haldex system; it already has a tuning protection feature, at least it did with the Gen 5. What kind of optimization are you specifically looking for?

Edited 14 May14 May by Cairus

21 minutes ago, Cairus said:

@travs

You drive a Superb 3, what year is it? I don't recall the Superb 3 ever getting a Haldex 6. But I don't know all the details offhand.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of optimizing the Haldex system; it already has a tuning protection feature, at least it did with the Gen 5. What kind of optimization are you specifically looking for?

Hey @Cairus - its March 2021. Road Rage Performance do a well known plug-in software but when it plugged in and I spoke to them, he said it was a 5WA part number instead of 0CQ and that that was a Gen6 and couldn't be tuned yet. I was looking at being able to switch to a more rear-bias or have different modes depending on the driving etc.

@travs

OK, so VW started converting the MQB "Classic" vehicles to GEN6 earlier than expected. The first ones to be converted were, of course, the new models based on the MQB EVO platform.

I understand your intentions, but with this type of transfer case with a single clutch, you can essentially only change the fact that you already have more power transmission to the rear axle in normal driving situations. In other words, a bit more "bite" of traction. Many people (Gen5) like to code it for the Audi RS model. However, I see this as a disadvantage because the oil pressure is increased, resulting in more power transmission even during normal driving, and therefore more wear and tear on the clutch plates. The transfer case for R models, etc., internally or project name "Twin" for short, has different friction plates. These individual wheel clutches are briefly subjected to a torque of 1200 Nm during clutch testing on the test track at the end of production (EOL - End Of Line). Tuning in this case wouldn't be my main concern.

Back to the Haldex. I personally recommend a Haldex service every 15,000 km. You'll only be doing the clutch a favor by doing so.

You have a Autoscan for me of your Car?

Thanks @Cairus - really interesting. So far it was serviced at 18months at 12k miles, then 2 years later which has amounted to another 12k miles. It’s due again this September and the mileage will be about 37k by then so just over 12k miles.

Autoscan - I can get a VCDS scan of it to you?

I’m not absolutely dead set on doing it, if it can’t be done then I’m ok with that. I just sometimes get a little front wheel slip pulling away more enthusiastically and if I could dial that out it would be great. I like the idea of switchable modes so it’s not working all the time (and I appreciate it can’t be more than 50:50 anyway) but it’s great to know more about it anyway!

Yes Vcds Scan is OK