Are these worth fitting to otherwise standard 4x4 brakes? And if so how much are they? Are they racing pads because I remember reading that these need warming up before they work properly - not much use in the winter in this country I don't think:eek: My front pads have done about 35k now and the rear were replaced with new discs when it was Revo'd.

Don't think they need warming up much, but i think you might find they are not E marked and so not approved for road use.

They are awesome pads - for road use too, I must add.

Not as lethal in stopping power as the DS3000 pads, but unlike the 3000s, they don't need warming up.

I run the 2500 on my 4potted 323mm brembo gt kit and it's fine, even in cold weather. Put in other words, they work just as well as stock pads in cold weather, but when they get warm, they're fekkin awesome

If you like enthiusiastic driving, you'll also appreciate that they simply do not fade at all (but worth having super dot 4 fluid, or 5.1).

On the few times I've been on track, and consistently hammered them, they've never let me down at all.

Edit, that's in my Fabia of course, and a few people here have mentioned they'be been dissapointed in the performance, but I think it's safe to say that the majority of the concensus is they're well worth it.

A 312mm set of pads is about £80 IIRC

On the few times I've been on track, and consistently hammered them, they've never let me down at all.

Pity the same cannot be said about your driving. :P

I run 2500's on me Octy and they are fine. First thing on a cold morning you will need to warm up the brakes though.

Ds2500's all round for me

I have DS2500 pads and they were a big improvment over the standard Brembo pads my existing kit came with. I was gonna get some for my new setup but at £180 I think they'er a little expensive so I'm gonna try the kit suppliers recommeded pads first.

I can't see what use pads that need warming up are - great if you can avoid anyone pulling out in front of you when cold. Anyway surely on a road car on normal roads not race track they must cool down in a couple of hundred yards after use anyway? This is the reason I was asking. Think I'll stick with standard pads and 5.1 fluid (this was a noticeble improvement, but then maybe the old fluid was nackered).

I can't see what use pads that need warming up are - great if you can avoid anyone pulling out in front of you when cold. Anyway surely on a road car on normal roads not race track they must cool down in a couple of hundred yards after use anyway? This is the reason I was asking. Think I'll stick with standard pads and 5.1 fluid (this was a noticeble improvement, but then maybe the old fluid was nackered).

But bear in mind that there is simply a massive improvement with the Ferodos in stopping power at motorway speeds, that I doubt you'll get just by upgrading the fluid.

Adam.

No motorways in Norfolk! But seriously in normal use since changing the fluid I don't get any fade and would rather trade having to push the pedal harder for being able to stop even only half a second quicker.

TBH onb motorways your brakes get very cold very quick as you can go miles at speed without even using them which makes for very cool discs and pads, which won't make for great stopping if the pads need warming up first.

Mintex C-MAX / Pagid Blue are E rated, don't require warming up and probably stop you almost as well if not as well as DS2500 I would think.

i have DS2500's and yes they aren't as good when cold as they are when warm but that doesn't mean they are urbbish when cold either

i find them good when cold and excellent warm

i have DS2500's and yes they aren't as good when cold as they are when warm but that doesn't mean they are urbbish when cold either

i find them good when cold and excellent warm

I would second that.

Has anybody ever tested whether DS2500 or any other pads are better than standard ones - say by putting 2 cars next to each other and stopping from same speed pressing hard enough to make the ABS work? Strikes me (a bit like the thing about CAI) that it may be subjective rather than real gains. Just need an airfield and 2 cars.

they are better as they don't fade as easily as standard pads.

TBH onb motorways your brakes get very cold very quick as you can go miles at speed without even using them which makes for very cool discs and pads, which won't make for great stopping if the pads need warming up first.

Mintex C-MAX / Pagid Blue are E rated, don't require warming up and probably stop you almost as well if not as well as DS2500 I would think.

I'd have thought that the heat build up when braking at motorway speeds would be pretty instantaneous. My own experience with Ferodo DS2500 is that they are fairly unimpressive and squealy around town but come in to their own when you suddenly find that the traffic in front of you on the motorway has stopped. A different class then to the standard 4x4 set-up.

they are better as they don't fade as easily as standard pads.

Yeah it's more about being able to stop everytime you press the brake pedal. When you get brake unexpectedly it's not a nice experience.

Has anybody ever tested whether DS2500 or any other pads are better than standard ones - say by putting 2 cars next to each other and stopping from same speed pressing hard enough to make the ABS work? Strikes me (a bit like the thing about CAI) that it may be subjective rather than real gains. Just need an airfield and 2 cars.

Not side by side...but Chris (Ellis) can testify my car stops/slows down very quickly from nsl ...he was following...well...actually trying to catch up.

Nothing subjective about it in anyway...reduction in fade, improved brake feel and of course reduced braking distances.

You do have to bed them in properly though...you can do this as per normal pads but you won't get the full effect until a few miles have been pt on them....much better to do as the instructions say....I think Jon...TaviaRS posted something on this.

I have run DS2500 on my RS when it had just a remap and now with an IHI turbo...wouldn't go back to standard pads.

How does anybody know about reduced braking distances unless actually tested back to back or measured? Otherwise its totally subjective and as for near instantaneous braking on the motorway surely instantaneous is better! Even a 1/4 of a second is a long way at 70(ish).

musky i suggest you go and visit another member that has teh pads and try them for yourself rather than call all of us wrong.

i know how my brakes react, they have been on there for a while now. they were on for a while with standard worn discs and pads then changed for brand new standard discs and brand new DS2500 pads.

i have never had a worrying moment with them its just that as they get warm(which is quite quickly) they just get better and better and you can carry on braking with them as the pads tehmselves are much more prone to fade, combine this with some super 4 or 5.1 fluid and the likely hood of brake fade is much reduced.

i ended up cooking my brake fluid at trax this year but it was caused by the fact that the inner pad on one side at the rear was down to the metal

I'm not calling anybody a liar just wondered if anybody had a chance to test them back to back. I'm not going to run my car on the track so am probably not interested in ultimate performance only in the fact that I want them to work straight away not after they warm up, and until someone tests them next to each other its just subjective. Everybody on here seems to agree that the cars behave performance wise differently day to day so maybe the brakes are the same.

my brakes work the same every single day, day in day out. press the pedal as hard as i want and they don't fade and unless i am on an uneven and or wet/slippery surface they don't lock up.