I drove home from work last night, and stopped off for fuel at the diesel place just at the end of my journey (after travelling for about about 1hr30). Put about

Does your glowplug light come on? (I am not asking if the plugs work just if the light came on).

No glowplug light... dash looked perfectly normal - the only abnormal thing was that it failed to start!

No glowplug light at all?

Did you have a read of the relay 109 symptoms after you mentioned it, that does sound a little bit like it could be one of them being iffy with things just not starting.

Of course it could be something completely different.

Take it the thing was turning over properly, as it has just got really cold and your battery would still be cold after the journey, so might need topping up and charging up or even replacing?

Sorry I'm not much help matt.

Sounds a bit like either weak glowplugs or that other old fiend, the air leak, to me.

Sounds a bit quick for an airleak, but it could be. Reason i say maybe relay or something is due to all the other problems Matt is having with his car going a bit nuts.

Other thing is that I can't see it being the glows as the car has just stopped so the cylinders should still be plenty hot enough to fire without the glows comming into effect.

Never seen a glowplug light on the dash, but I'll have a look tomorrow. Car had done a 60 mile run from Amesbury back to weymouth at in free flowing traffic, so I able to travel at the NSL pretty much the whole way back. Filling the car with fuel and paying for it was at tops a 5 minute job.

It was turning over the proper speed, just failing to catch! Air leak is a possibility I guess..... This will probably be anoher one of those un-answered 'strange' things!

Did you get anywhere with this Matt? BTW you have to be quick to see the glowplug light, cos it's off in ~2s, way faster than the seatbelt warning ones are!

yep... I have since spotted the glowplug light - normally I put the igniton on and then replace the front of my head unit, and hense have never seen it before. I need to fill the car up on my way home tonight, so I'll have to see if it happens again!

There is a temp sensor inside the injection pump that can cause exactly this sympton. IIRC dealers will say new injection pump but an injection specialist can change the part which is about £20.

There is a guide somewhere for it and i remember posting a link to it somewhere on here.

HTH

Being it has only happened once or twice I'll ignore it for the moment....., but I will keep this thread inmind should it become a more common occurance....

and **bump**

this happened again last night. I had driven back from work (about 1hr50 - including getting stuck in traffic in Salisbury at 6.00pm), stopped at Asda in Weymouth to buy some milk - so I probably gone from the car for about 10 minutes. Jumped back in, turned the key. I thought it was going to catch, to let go of the key and it failed. Tried again and the second time round it caught - not instantly (about 3-4 seconds), but not as bad as when at the petrol station a few weeks ago (ie. the initial reason for this post)