Hi all,

Have just been down to Awesome! GTI and bought a nice shiny hyperboost DV, whilst I was there I got chatting to Jim (used to have a mk1 GTI and live in his old garage!) he said I could have a 6 hour free trial of 207bhp.

Naturally I agreed and by god does it make a difference, the qustion I have is when it reverts back in 6 hours will it leave any problems with my ecu and could I still go to another company (say Jabba) and they do a full re-map even though it's now been tinkered with?

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Did they take a copy of your ECU prior to the upload?

I suspect and thus would welcome the new AwesomeAPR member to comment if like the REVO it reverts to a APR image of stock? Or to be 100% it's your STOCK program you can have it put back in place.

I think the general concensus was that the STOCK program on VAG cars are not all the same. Although with the specific of Jabba, it matters not, they physically replace the chip anyway.

See if you can get Jim and awesome to fire up the computers before we see a repeat performance.

I think he took a copy of the chip, he had to check it first though because he'd not seen the ecu code before that mine has,

He said hi by the way Colin, go there often do we?

Unless you had the original programme code reflashed onto your ECU, I believe that you now have a modified car for insurance and warranty purposes. Regardless, if you want to go the Jabba remap route, Jabba will remove the existing chip and fit a replacement (on a small motherboard) which they download code onto and then remap to your preferences. You get to keep your original chip and that can be refitted to your ECU FOC by Jabba at some future date should you so wish, eg when you sell the car.

Did they take a copy of your ECU prior to the upload?

I suspect and thus would welcome the new AwesomeAPR member to comment if like the REVO it reverts to a APR image of stock? Or to be 100% it's your STOCK program you can have it put back in place.

I think the general concensus was that the STOCK program on VAG cars are not all the same. Although with the specific of Jabba' date=' it matters not, they physically replace the chip anyway.

See if you can get Jim and awesome to fire up the computers before we see a repeat performance.[/quote']

Each piece of APR software is written for a specific Bosch ECU, and will as a rule only work on each specific ECU, but there are always exceptions.

As the tables for the various perimeters are stored in different locations on the different versions of the Bosch ME7.XX ECU's for the different engine variants.

When the software does revert back to standard after the trial it's reverting back to the standard tables that were there before the car had the trial, these values are already known by the ECU number on the box itself or read via OBD.

One thing to note is various encryption modules as used by many who change the chip itself can be detected by the absence of some of the ability but not all of the read/write commands accessable to certain areas via OBDII,

which is part of the reason why you cannot OBD tune a car already fitted with an encryption module and chip.

Also repeatedly physically changing chips on the same ECU can damage tracks and will also leave evidence of removal/refitting, until they start testing OBD ports for DNA traces then OBD programing (as used by Bosch themselves) will still be the most undetectable way to have your car modified

Hope that helps!

Also repeatedly physically changing chips on the same ECU can damage tracks

I hope no 'old' APR EMCS module customers read that

lol, no it's 'repeatedly' removing and replacing that can damage tracks, a couple of times is ok but after that you increase your risks start to increase greatly.

Everyone is moving over to OBD programming now, I'm sure that is an additional deciding factor for this.

lol' date=' no it's 'repeatedly' removing and replacing that can damage tracks, a couple of times is ok but after that you increase your risks start to increase greatly.

Everyone is moving over to OBD programming now, I'm sure that is an additional deciding factor for this.[/quote']

How would you entertain the removal of a Superchip carrier and replacment of said chip with one compatible with OBD processing?

Carefully!

Joking aside, ALOT depends on the original fitting centre and the quality of the original job

How would you entertain the removal of a Superchip carrier and replacment of said chip with one compatible with OBD processing?

Woo, finally getting a proper chip Colin?

Just thought I'd add if you have cruise control already fitted then our free trial includes all the available options, so multiple programs and security etc.