I agree with many of the posts on here but recently I got my OE xenons adjusted again. QUOTE]

Mines now in for a headlight adjustment Hope they set it high enough. No where near as good as the clio's none xenon or the Octavia II's xenons.

If you take it to the dealership tell them to set it to just under the top red line. When they set it to between the two black lnes they were far too low, couldn't even see with them on!

OK.....

Wander across to to HiDPlanet.com :: Index sometime.

HID lights are great for low beam if fitted in purpose designed projector enclosures.

Dedicated HID high beams aren't a brilliant idea as they take whilst to warm up and constantly switching them reduces bulb life.

For a number of reasons, retro-fitting HID bulbs into enclosures designed for halogen bulbs is a bad idea.

Personally, I feel that with HID, there's too sudden a transition between not blinded and blinded. I'd like to see a graduated fade out at the top end of the beam to avoid instantaneous blinding.

Even with a properly designed system, a car coming towards you around a left hand bend can blind you as you approach down the straight.

There's a balance to be found is my way of looking at it.

J.

i agree with WW VRS about the headlamp adjustment , it should of been in position 1 , the highest setting , you would be able to see further down the road , it is only a manual way of adjusting the lamps for loading ,with xenons it does it electronically .

I have xenons so i am biased towards them sorry

Ditto.....

Gotto remember - when Halogens first came in, people whinged like fook about how bright they were against the old standard.

It's what you are used to - once they become std on cars (which they will) it will become the norm. People won't complain.

It's only as they are a different light to you normally expect that you look at them.

Infrared with heads up display is the answer...

Gotto remember - when Halogens first came in, people whinged like fook about how bright they were against the old standard.

It's what you are used to - once they become std on cars (which they will) it will become the norm. People won't complain.

It's only as they are a different light to you normally expect that you look at them.

yeah I quite agree about the old style lights, if you see a cavalier or an escort comming towards you they look like two candles

also WTF is he doing driving about with his lights set for 3 passengers worth of weight, I left mine on the lowest setting once and I could hardly see at all :eggface:

Infrared with heads up display is the answer...

Not if you are a pedestrian without NV goggles it isnt:eek:

Chris

Not if you are a pedestrian without NV goggles it isnt:eek:

Chris

Well clearly cars would need running lights to make them visible to poor people.

Hi all,

Right. Time for a rant here, I'm afraid.

I am very irritated by the number of drivers of varios cars (BMWs, Mercs and Audis among them - not sure about Skodas) who find it necessary to have these rediculously bright xenon / white headlights on their cars.

I do drive at night sometimes and when I am going along stretches of main road that have no streetlighting, I find that if someone comes in the opposite direction with these Xenon / bright white headlights then I can't see for a second or two because I get so dazzled by the lights. I am not someone who suffers reactions to any other lights.

Some of the excuses I have heard for these lights have included, from a friend of mine, that "I need to be able to see round the next corner" which is:

a) rubbish

and

physically impossible

My Dad's Ford Escort Estate does not have Xenon / bright white headlights and yet his headlights are perfectly adequate for night driving. On modern cars I tend to set the headlight brightness control to '3' which is also perfectly adequate.

My normal habbit with the bright-white headlights is that if someone comes the opposite way with them on then I take my right hand off the wheel and put it over my eyes but that is dangerous as you obscure your line of vision.

The ultimate reason for this rant however came tonight when I was driving my Dad's car along a 20-mph stretch of road and someone came towards me with their bright white headlights full-on (5 out of 5 on the brightness scale I guess) which blinded me so much I put the brakes on but didn't seee the corner comming up (because of the effect of those headlights) and put the car into a hedge although fortunately without causing any serious damage save for a few scratches on the paint work (just as well it wasn't a tree I hit) and a cracked - only for some of its length but not en ough to substantially obscure my vision - windscreen. I turned around and caught up with the driver who pulled in at my signal and had the nerve, upon seeing the damage and listening to my polite (no swearing) verabal rant to laugh and say "you should have looked where you were going, mate." and that attitude made him look a complete c***cheese.

I believe that Xenon / bright white headlights - which seem to come as standard on some cars these days:

a) are unnecessary

are dangerous

c) blind everyone else on the road

and

d) could be used as a bullying tactic

and should therefore be delcared illegal. I swear that if I ever end up with a car with Xenon / bright white headlights then I will get them changed.

But there is the question and I throw it open to you lot: should Xenon & bright-white hadlights be made illegal? If not then why not?

Thoughts and votes welcome.

Dave

Of course they shouldn't be made illegal....... How daft a comment is that???

I do approx 50-60% of my driving at night and find the xenon lights far better at illuminating the road than the halogens fitted in the CTR we have. I can't remember the last time anybody has flashed me because of the headlights....... It is also EU legislation that all cars fitted with xenon's should have auto levelling mechanisms so they do not dazzle, they should also have headlight washers fitted too. As has already been mentioned the only time i find i am dazzled by another car with xenons is if it is coming over the brow of a hill etc...... but you would be dazzled by a car with halogens in the same situation.

I wear glasses when driving so find that any car driving past dazzles me but i think that's just a thing with wearing specs...... My biggest gripe is with drivers that either drive with their freeking main-beam on or with their front or rear foglights on but do you hear me calling for main beam and fog lights to be made illegal???

I'm sure when halogen bulbs were first used wide spread there were people like you saying they should be banned and that the existing very poor headlights that cars had back then were quite sufficient........ but hey that's called progress.

Also as commented earlier in another reply..... i think i'd be more worried about having been driving at 20mph and having missed a corner and driven into a hedge because a car was coming the other way with xenon lights. I reckon i would be thinking about giving up my license or seeking medical assistance from an optician!!!

Reply rant over.

Cheers

Dave.

Also.............. just noticed a lack of any form of response from the original poster of this thread to any of the replies...........

I reckon either a troll thread....... or he isn't too happy about the lack of support for his cause.

Cheers

Dave.

Also.............. just noticed a lack of any form of response from the original poster of this thread to any of the replies...........

I reckon either a troll thread....... or he isn't too happy about the lack of support for his cause.

Cheers

Dave.

With 10,721 posts I'd say he's a regular...

Merry Christmas !

With 10,721 posts I'd say he's a regular...

Merry Christmas !

:confused:

14 posts is all I can see?

:confused:

14 posts is all I can see?

Yeah that's what i thought too..... Hence what i said.....

Cheers

Dave.

I personally don't look directly at the oncoming lights, i concentrate straight ahead and on the left hand side of the road and aline myself to that. Never had a problem with xenons, full beam, or fog lights blinding me, only really badly adjusted normal lights can sometimes cause me an issue !!!!

Ross

Yeah that's what i thought too..... Hence what i said.....

Cheers

Dave.

You obviously haven't been down the pub then...

I've just had a quick look, its the first thread he's started... Probably doesn't come here often.

You obviously haven't been down the pub then...

Are you implying that you were under the influence of intoxicating Christmas licquer....... And in charge of a PC whilst browsing these forums????

Good on ya. :thumbup:

Cheers

Dave.

Are you implying that you were under the influence of intoxicating Christmas licquer....... And in charge of a PC whilst browsing these forums????

Good on ya. :thumbup:

Cheers

Dave.

For just a few seconds there I thought I was trouble...

Are you confusing Xenon bulbs that tend to be fitted as aftermarket "Upgrades", with Xenon gas discharge headlamps that are fitted as standard on L&K's.

The Gas discharge ones are only 35Watt as opposed to 55Watt.

Even if u ban xenon's there's still a mass percentage of drivers with lights that are whay too high and don't give a toss about other road users.

personally i dont have a problem with other people's xenon lights...only when i'm feeling a little tired, then they blind me and i get a little mad.