And you thought the new Fabia was ugly. this is Fugly!

2CV

When I saw the interior picture I thought, they have gone a bit too far in the retro stakes as that is almost a genuine 2CV interior....

Then i realised it was a real 2CV in that pic.

I don't think it looks that bad to be honest and if made out of light weigh materials and true to it's name (eg 2 cylinder car) could make for a stunningly economical town car.

I do hope they don't make the electronics and similar overly complex as one of the best things with the original was that you could replace every single part on it and they just kept going.

The gear stick on the original was of course some sick French joke at the rest of the world.

It's just going to be a C3 with silly bodywork hanging off it.

It's just going to be a C3 with silly bodywork hanging off it.

True - rather see an entirely new design rather than re-hashing a previous one into a modern version.

true to it's name (eg 2 cylinder car) could make for a stunningly economical town car.

iirc they are called 2CV or (deux cheveux) in other parts of the world, because they were supposed to be capable or doing the equivilent amount of work as 'two horses'...

the original 2cv (circa 1950's) had a wierd power take off for running a plough:eek:

The gear stick on the original was of course some sick French joke at the rest of the world.

:iagree: just like the renault 4:rofl:

i wonder if they will make camouflage coloured body panels like the original 2cv:P

Could the 2CV thing have been inspired by the fact the original had (I think) a 2 cylinder boxer engine. 2 horses

Having owned several 2cvs' I love 'em.

The retro think worked for the Mini, Beetle and will work for the Fiat 500.

It will definately work for the 2cv.

Backwards is the way forwards dontcha know.

will skoda bring out the Rapid then?!

The "2CV" thing came from the French tax rating system of the time (best translation is 2 fiscal horsepower). Hence in the same period the Citroen 11CV (Legere) and light and big 15s.

The "2CV" thing came from the French tax rating system of the time (best translation is 2 fiscal horsepower). Hence in the same period the Citroen 11CV (Legere) and light and big 15s.

You are a clever old Hector:thumbup:

You are a clever old Hector:thumbup:

And you are giving away our ages m'Lady!

And you are giving away our ages m'Lady!

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It's just going to be a C3 with silly bodywork hanging off it.

just like the new Beetle was a Golf with silly bodywork hanging off it.

just like the new Beetle was a Golf with silly bodywork hanging off it.

Well it was based on the same floorplan and mechanicals as the golf , but had a completely different shape to it.

This 2cv follows exactly the same roofline as the C3 with a different nose and backside on it and you can clearly see the shape of the donor car

Brilliant! I like these retro's.

Original 2CV burnt me off on the M5 last night, but I wasn't really trying.

pardon my ignorance but how would/ did you change a rear tyre? with that overhanging body work how would the wheel release?

on the old ones you could remove those panels in about five miniutes.. but the wheel was so skinny, you could get them out without doing it

Also, on the bigger DS and CX models, the rear wing (or spat) was attached using one bolt and a couple of clips, so it took next to no time to get one off for a wheel change.

And on the BX models you pumped up the hydraulic suspension to full height and turned the engine off.

At this max height the suspension was short term (15-20mins) locked up, so you popped the jack in and raised the jack to meet the car + 1/2" and then took the fully visible tyre off.

New one back on in the reverse.

Was the easiest car i have changed a tyre on, but that was down to the suspension.

Same trick could be done on any Hydro-pneumatic suspension citroen.

With the DS, what you did was suspension full up, install a prop (supplied) at the right corner, lower the suspension and watch the car jack itself up for you.

Yep that matches

I do really rate that suspension.

What i would love would be for them to in stall it in a sporty guise on a small car. They did it on the Xantia activa and OMG car that car corner well and totally flat

The suspension was great... until you got a leak and then oh dear! It was all linked to the brakes and power steering too if I recall so you were well and truly stuck!

The interior 2CV pic is the original... did they mean to do that? Must not have a pic of the new interior!

Em, in 12 years I had one leak, and that was in one of the "improvements", the Xantia anti-sink valves!

BX I had one leak when a large piece of road debris tore a pipe... it probably would have destroyed the sump on most MK I Octys too.

Even with total fluid loss the LHM had a reservoir which kept fluid reserved for the brakes so you could stop.

That plus the hydraulic warning lights and stop lights came on well before you were in trouble. The steering would still work without fluid, same as steering without power steering, brakes as i mentioned above had a reserve and the suspension kept pressure for a good 10 minutes even without fluid.

I was doing 60 at the time.

One big problem with the suspension was that even though you needed to change the LHM every so often (36k miles iirc) and wash the filter through, most people didn't, so they ended up with loads and loads of water in the system causing internal problems.

Normal brake fluid needs changing every 2 years for the same people, but don't ignore that service interval to the same extent.

I'd go as far as to say the citroen suspension lasted a lot longer than the current breed of cars struts/springs do.

Of course once you had pulled up and stopped and waited for a recovery vehicle there was no way you were getting a tow as by the time they got there after an hour, the suspension had sat down and you needed a low loader whatever the problem.