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Quick question or three anyone please help, greatly appeciated.....

1) The oil usage on a vRS.....what exactly constitutes "normal" oil usage when in this period (the extended running in period) ?

Topping up a new car with a TDi/vRS is a new experience for me as the MPi hardly used very much.

I've had to top up few times, just a little concerned on what ought to be reasonable to top up.

Each time it has NOT been severely low in that it was well below the stick, but has managed to creep almost off the oil level ?

A wee top up of the 1L grade 507.1 AG has brought it back, just please someone rest me assured this is normal as I'm quite well into my second 1L container, that said its a small distance from its first service 10K miles so I probably won't stress until the results of that.

2) my rear drums, they are noisy as hell and I have tried various efforts at overbraking to help shift this, even riding a short while with handbrake on lightly as this is definitely where its from (they are a little tarnished).

Perhaps they will just clean up with a scrub, again an advisory on the service.

Does anyone experience this ?

3) anyone know how much the door release/catch osf/r will cost to replace? Looks like metal, but in fact is just a mear sliver of metal over plastic.

They are not at all impervious to passengers with all the subtlety of rhinos when exiting a vehicle

:D

Quick question or three anyone please help, greatly appeciated.....

1) The oil usage on a vRS.....what exactly constitutes "normal" oil usage when in this period (the extended running in period) ?

Topping up a new car with a TDi/vRS is a new experience for me as the MPi hardly used very much.

I've had to top up few times, just a little concerned on what ought to be reasonable to top up.

Each time it has NOT been severely low in that it was well below the stick, but has managed to creep almost off the oil level ?

A wee top up of the 1L grade 507.1 AG has brought it back, just please someone rest me assured this is normal as I'm quite well into my second 1L container, that said its a small distance from its first service 10K miles so I probably won't stress until the results of that.

2) my rear drums, they are noisy as hell and I have tried various efforts at overbraking to help shift this, even riding a short while with handbrake on lightly as this is definitely where its from (they are a little tarnished).

Perhaps they will just clean up with a scrub, again an advisory on the service.

Does anyone experience this ?

3) anyone know how much the door release/catch osf/r will cost to replace? Looks like metal, but in fact is just a mear sliver of metal over plastic.

They are not at all impervious to passengers with all the subtlety of rhinos when exiting a vehicle

:D

1) My Fabia vRS used just over 1L during the first 10,000 miles.

2) I'm confused as to what car you are on about? The vRS has discs at the back and they can 'moo' in reverse.

3) No idea on this one?

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Ah thats cool Mine has used probably more like 1.5l or maybe a bit more,

But this plus a few other things I found reassures me I am not alone, and that its not a unique "feature" of just my car !!!

Damn! Yes I meant rear disks I have no idea why I put drums on the post. I think based on the suggestion you say they can "moo" means that again this might not be just me.....

The disks certainly do seem a bit tarnished and don't seem to get a good run in, partly down to my braking habits or lack thereof, due to giving the car a good proper "run" every day with little braking required (the urban cycle is quite low demand in my journey as I do 30miles straight with an avg of probably 90mph - kidding !!).

The door opener thing - you know, latch/door puller. By the way be VERY careful with the dismantling of the attached springs! Nearly had my eye out.

Just as well that the bodys reflex action is far more well attuned than the mind of the person attempting said dismantling, as I actually felt it ping my eyelid before I had even registered that the spring had actually come away (kind of sensed it was going to happen actually, just didnt engage to do anything sensible to prevent it).

Then spent about 15 minutes looking for the damn thing!!

(I replaced my osf catch, with the osr catch which is identical, but unfortunately the body of the latch mechanism is not immediately identical/replaceable otherwise I would have swapped them straight over for the moment, rather than having to dismantle the puller).

This in itself is a bitch and I had to mess about with feeding the spring back in to the mechanism which is easier sounding that it actually is, I assure you.

I am sure its easier just to buy the entire mechanism in one piece! (which the item bill of material / part number for it probably is specified as anyway).

A wee top up of the 1L grade 507.1 AG has brought it back, just please someone rest me assured this is normal as I'm quite well into my second 1L container, that said its a small distance from its first service 10K miles so I probably won't stress until the results of that.

The oil spec should be 505.01 so I'm hoping the above is merely a typo :) See sticky about oils.

In terms of usage, I'm guessing the nature of your mileage would have an effect on oil consumption, i.e. has your journeys been mainly short runs or long motorway trips?

The oil you are using on the Fabia vRS should meet specification VW 505 01. The following oils are approved to that specification:

BP Special Visco V 5W-40 (fully synthetic)

Castrol GTD 505 01 5W-40

DEA Ultec Diesel SAE 5W-40

Delphi Prestige Diesel Plus 5W-40 (synthetic-based)

Esso 505 01 5W-40

Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL PD SAE 5W-40 (fully synthetic)

Granville Topaz Diesel 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)

Madit 505 01

Migrol Special S-Plus

Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)

Motul 6100 5W-40

OMV syn com diesel

Q8 Formula Excel 5w40 (fully synthetic)

Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)

VAG-branded 505 01 505 00 High Lubricity Engine Oil 5W-40 - G 052 167 A2

- (Part No: ZGB 115 QLB 00 462 - RRP

the rear brakes can be noisy on the VRS , mine are quiet, always have been, but my dads have always been noisy ,both 04 cars

maybe its just the compound they used to make the pads , the rear brakes do very little so do tend to glaze and corrode , so giving them a good hard braking session every now and then won't do them any harm

my rear pads have done 45k, this includes 2 track days and a Ring trip and show very little signs of wear

According to the Service desk at Woodheads.

A vRS can use 0.5L in 1000 miles if the car is driven briskly.

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Hi guys

I am really sorry I did not reply sooner. My ADSL has been out by sodding exchange problems for several days, yet another thing to worry about, but now sorted.

Thankfully I have my service asap so will get the right oil, and will consider getting a little top up oil the same time (of recommended spec!)

AND the choice of oil was not my own blunder. I spent a good deal of time getting the advice on it and having it looked up by a parts guy in Halfords, Kettering!

In hindsight I can see the error now: it quite clearly indicates VW505 01, plus 505 00 and 507 00 with a)

*where a) indicates does not apply for PDi engines.

I thought the service manual indicated 507 - although it seemed far from clear, which I why I consulted assistance. I also thought it was flexible service, again stupidly by talking to Halfords.

However I myself read this as meaning the PDi, instead of the vRS, which is dumb because of course the vRS obviously must be the PDi. Uh oh.

I took the final word under the recommendation of Halfords.

It was actually the most expensive stuff, the Castrol Edge 5w 30 I think. Christ now I can get the cheaper stuff :o)

Any serious implications ? Or just explains why it has been slipping through the engine a bit quicker than I might expect :o)

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Long(ish) motorways trips by the way (or straight A road, to put it bluntly).

And the answer to the briskness, is, well probably "far too briskly" to be honest :o)

I've been burned by a couple of slightly faster cars though and took the pace down to a more modest level of recently..... I think the new Golf Gti is one car capable of that, but for an extra 10k that's quite a price to pay.

I think I'd eventually spend a wee amount on modifications to boost the BHP once its closer to being outside the warranty period, and see how that goes. I am quite turned on to the idea of the chip modifications actually, but lets just stick to basics like the proper engine oil for now eh :o)

My PD100 has used around 0.6 L on the first 22.000km / 14.000 miles, and that is with brisk driving.

And by complete contrast mine has used no oil in 18 months/48k except for I think I put about 250ml in after a track day.

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So its conclusive, you drive like a girl, except on track days where the brisk driving that is known to consume oil begins :o)

Seriously, I have no right to say that and I sincerely apologise lol, it just popped into my head and I though it was worth a laugh shared :op

You can degrade me back if you wish now.

You are lucky with the oil consumption, I am hoping that whatever it is, seals or whatever bed in after this service and I am not left having to do more continuous checks on the oil. Makes me wonder where the fine line between normal and faulty in respect to oil seals comes in.

There is a quite considerable school of thought that says you should not 'run in' an engine - and that doing so will lead to less well-bedded in seals etc and more oil usage.

e.g.

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

I think the general consensus is it does no harm to work the engine i.e. rev it. More harm is done by letting it labour + accelerating hard from low revs in a high gear will eventually damage the DMF.

Re topping up with the wrong oil - as long as you topped it up i.e. the majority of the oil is the correct specification, I would think you will have done very little (if any) harm.

Some sensible advice here (divided into several topics)

The Car Maintenance Bibles

So its conclusive, you drive like a girl, except on track days where the brisk driving that is known to consume oil begins :o)

Seriously, I have no right to say that and I sincerely apologise lol, it just popped into my head and I though it was worth a laugh shared :op

You can degrade me back if you wish now.

You are lucky with the oil consumption, I am hoping that whatever it is, seals or whatever bed in after this service and I am not left having to do more continuous checks on the oil. Makes me wonder where the fine line between normal and faulty in respect to oil seals comes in.

Youll find your car will use a bit of oil in the first 10k or so.. (think theres a sticky post somewhere to say that)

i found after the 10k service the car was perfect on oil and didnt "loose" any.. im up to 90k now and its just starting to loose a bit.. ive only had to top it up three times in 90k miles :thumbup:

So its conclusive, you drive like a girl, except on track days where the brisk driving that is known to consume oil begins :o)

Seriously, I have no right to say that and I sincerely apologise lol, it just popped into my head and I though it was worth a laugh shared :op

You can degrade me back if you wish now.

You are lucky with the oil consumption, I am hoping that whatever it is, seals or whatever bed in after this service and I am not left having to do more continuous checks on the oil. Makes me wonder where the fine line between normal and faulty in respect to oil seals comes in.

I suppose it could look like that :rofl:

I think previous threads have gone down the road of all of us who didn't spare the rod during run in seem to have little or no oil consumption

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