Hi all,

It's my intention to buy a VRS very soon and I'll probably get it remapped immediately as I think I'd find std power a little lacking.

Question is, what gain am I likely to see with a remap only? Are VRS's actually 180bhp as standard or more than that? I ask as I note a recent Swedish tester dyno'd a standard Fabia VRS at 129bhp - at the wheels!!

I'd currently intend to use Jabbasport, but as I live in Brighton, I'd welcome any good local recommendations.

Cheers,

Jez

You'd safely see anything between 215-230bhp with torque to match from any remap.

You'd safely see anything between 215-230bhp with torque to match from any remap.

Thanks, mate. So, am I right in guessing that exhaust/air/intercooler upgrades only really come into their own if you ditch the standard turbo?

Out of interest, does the std turbo have a better spool up as I am assuming it's smaller?

I guess I need to live with one for a while to see if I'm happy with the amount of power or not! I'd seriously consider going for lots more power, but if I do, the plan to LPG will go out the window as the current systems are only really good for 62 bhp per cylinder, so 248bhp in total.

All the bits will help getting a bit more, but you will not see it go past 240-250bhp without changing the turbo. The remap needs to be updated to take into account any mods you do after it has been remapped though, so usually it is better to change bits first, and then do the remap.

Mine is completely standard bar the remap and is so much better with it, I dont need any more power TBH.

All the bits will help getting a bit more, but you will not see it go past 240-250bhp without changing the turbo. The remap needs to be updated to take into account any mods you do after it has been remapped though, so usually it is better to change bits first, and then do the remap.

For sure re the remap. So, as per usual, VFM is the remap.

It might be worth doing the pikey mod to the plastic wheelarch also behind the standard intercooler to keep things running cool.

Mine is completely standard bar the remap and is so much better with it, I dont need any more power TBH.

No, you don't, but it's always nice to have. I think I need to learn that less is more as I've chased power in the past and it's not the be all and end all. Says he with a rocket powered Lotus!!!

It is nice to have, but for the

It is nice to have, but for the

Rolling roads vary. Without knowing more about the specific RR used, it seems exceptionally strong, but that could be partly down to the individual RR being "rather optomistic".

Rolling roads vary. Without knowing more about the specific RR used, it seems exceptionally strong, but that could be partly down to the individual RR being "rather optomistic".

Of course, but I do know that outputs quoted on VAG engines are often conservative. Certainly, the 0-60 times on VRS's seem to understate actual performance.

Not much to add here other than to say that I had my standard 1.8T custom remapped at Jabba and their Rolling Road gave a figure of 218bhp. An independant Rolling Road gave a figure of 208bhp.

If your car is standard you cant really go wrong with a tuner's generic map - at the time Jabba only did custom maps so thats what I went for.

Do you really think a generic map is nearly as good, then? I was certainly under the impression that it wasn't.

Do you really think a generic map is nearly as good, then? I was certainly under the impression that it wasn't.

If your car is standard then you wont notice the difference betwene the generic Jabba remap and the custom remap. Fair enough you *may* see a few bhp more on the custom map but you will be hard pressed to feel the extra power that the extra cost will buy you.

If you want a particular characteristic (all the extra power after 3k rpm to reduce wheelspin or something) then the custom map is the way to go, or if yo uhave a filter or exhaust.

But if you just want to walk in and say "I'll have a remap please" then go generic.

Will I notice a difference with LPG as surely part of the benefit of a cutsom map is that you know fueling will be spot on, rather than just a guestimate?

For instance, we have a generic remap on the Fabia which made MPG worse. Jabba quote a 10% improvement in mpg with their custom map, so in theory, going custom will pay for itself in less fuel consumed long term?

No, as I have seen an improvement with my 'generic' remap in fuel economy when not booting it.

MPG fell when my old Octavia had a Jabba custom remap. And it wasnt just a result of me driving harder - I struggled to get anything over 33 MPG on a very careful drive.

Prior to the remap it was high 30's

I should say this is not common and I never went back to jabba - even though they offered to tweak it for me.

OK, thanks guys.

Liverpool Lad, where did you go for your remap?

eBay.co.uk: Audi TT 1.8T 180 225 Year 1999-2005 Remap Chip Tune (item 200126803471 end time 17-Jul-07 13:11:42 BST)

He's a bit far away obviously but it was a good deal as he travelled to where I live, good bloke too.

Ah!!!!

There's no reason why you shouldn't get better economy from a generic remap. it depends on the competence of the remappers rather more though, since they have to go slightly conservative, but they could still fill in known flat spots, lean off at cruising revs and throttle etc.

Economy and smoothness are my main concerns with getting a re-map. I'm going for a generic jabbasport one in the upcoming group buy. I hope that their maps cut the mustard!

As said, with a good map you MPG should not decrease at all (unless your booting it) and the power delivery should remain smooth and consistent with no flatspots. The AFR should not jump around and the engine should be advanced as possible without detonation.

A good custom map with a good mapper is a wonderful thing! :p

To illustrate how much the remap made a difference to mine, even driving out of the cul-de-sac to the main road I could tell the car was so much more eager, this was at slow speed!