For me the issue with V-Power is more: 'Is it better than using a diesel additive like Millers?'

I imagine V-Power does much the same as the additive, only it's easier because you don't have to add it manually. (I've not done the maths comparison though.)

This is what Shell says:

"Shell V-Power is designed to improve the performance of your engine by helping to remove power-robbing deposits. By cleaning the engine, the fuel can burn more effectively enabling the engine to run more smoothly."

I'm sure I've also read somewhere that ALL petrol/diesel fuels will HAVE to go down the higher octane/cetane route on the basis of reducing CO2 emissions, though this might be 10-15 yrs away.

Anyway, I think 'better' fuel is worth considering for people doing high mileages, keeping their car for 5 yrs+ and those with remaps.

I'm going to use it for 3-5 tanks and see what I think. But as I plan to do the re-map route when the warranty expires, using a higer cetane rated fuel *might* be advisable.

But if you don't like it or think it's too expensive don't use it!

Can someone put a link to the EVO article on V-Power/Tesco 99???

I don't think they can......

"Detonation in four-stroke engines is caused by the detonation (knocking) of the unburnt portion of the fuel (due to its overly high sensitivity to heat and pressure of the particular fuel under certain conditions) resulting in a pressure wave. This force is extremely destructive to common piston engines, and often results in holes blown through the top of pistons or cracks in cylinder heads. This is different from knocking in diesel engines, which use heat and pressure as the primary source of ignition. In diesel engines, low sensitivity to these conditions results in ignition being delayed while a highly detonable mixture accumulates, causing detonation when ignition finally occurs. Diesel fuel has a cetane number much like gasoline has an octane rating, except that it represents increasing sensitivity while the octane rating represents decreasing sensitivity."

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Are diesel cars prone to det'ing then? :confused:

I'm also not sure I believe that it will prolong the life of an engine either - sounds like marketing hype to me as there are just waaaaaaaaay too many variables along the way to 100k to make any sort of guarantee like that.....

Still, you pay's your money

Chris

I don't think it will make that much difference to the 'average' punter because they will change their car at 3 yrs anyway, but to those of us who keep their cars for 7-10 yrs and 100K or more I think it would help, just as someone eating hiqh quality food all their life should live longer than some moron who eats McDonald burgers all the time.

I don't think it will make that much difference to the 'average' punter because they will change their car at 3 yrs anyway, but to those of us who keep their cars for 7-10 yrs and 100K

Like taxi drivers? Funnily enough they all fill up at the local Tesco

The marketing bumpf is deliberately woolly and uses phrases like "can" and "helps" which means that you could potentially have no gains at all. Compare this to the wording on the Millers bottle which uses "does" and "will".

Yours, Cynical of Andover

Like taxi drivers? Funnily enough they all fill up at the local Tesco

The marketing bumpf is deliberately woolly and uses phrases like "can" and "helps" which means that you could potentially have no gains at all. Compare this to the wording on the Millers bottle which uses "does" and "will".

Yours, Cynical of Andover

True, but when you have millions of people buying Shell fuel each day compared to a few thousand using Millers I guess you have to be less specific on what you say in case you are sued. You don't hear the govt saying if you eat 5 portions of fruit each day you WILL live longer because there is no 100% proof (as I guess there can't be with Millers).

Taxi drivers run their cars on Tesco stuff I guess because it is the cheapest stuff they can afford. They are there to make as much money as possible after all.

All I know is that I ran my Accord Type R on V-Power (Optimax before that) and it lasted 7 yrs and 105,000 miles (before I sold it) and I got measurably better mpg of 3-4 miles extra per litre compared to RON 95 unleaded. I can't vouch for the engine deposits but if someone spends

This is a very different argument depending on whether we're discussing petrol or diesel; so far we seem to be discussing both and some people seem to be getting confused between the two.

Why is it a different argument? Shell make the same claims for diesel V-Power as petrol V-Power; it reduces engine deposits and improve performance.

I only mention petrol V-Power because I have used that for years. I am expecting the diesel to be the same, but obviously apologies if it turns out not to be so!

I'm gona wait until the V-Power is more readily available, rather than driving to the next town only to find the 2 pumps of v-power are empty. IMO its not even worth trying until i know i can get it all the time.

I can't believe that they don't have any in the manchester area :(

The Broken cross Garage in Macclesfield have just started stocking it

I can't vouch for the engine deposits but if someone spends

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The min my local garage in Blackpool had got v-power derv in i started using it. I have now run my Fabia VRS on 3 full tanks and after the first tank there was a noticable diffrence. It pulls a lot harder around the 2000-3500rpm range and it has stopped smoking so much out the rear of the car. Also cold morning start-ups don`t seem as noisy as before. I`ve always ran my car on Shell derv extra and have never touched supermarket derv as the quality seems awful. I`m definalty going to be keeping the car until it`s gone well past the 100k mark and hopefully this v-power derv will help the engine last that bit longer. I certainly don`t mind paying the extra few pence per litre if i keep getting this extra mpg and a lot less smoke out the rear.

If anyone`s actully going to keep running their furby VRS`s on v-power derv then maybe it will pay them to sign upto the Shell drivers club and mount up those points so that they get fuel vouchers every now and then so that it works out running on the top fuel doesn`t actully cost that much more.

Overall i give the v-power derv a top 10/10 and i`ll defo never use any other fuel .

none planned for ireland though!!:(......have just had a word with shell here and they say theres no intention of bringing it here!:( ....booh hoo!

k:)

seems there's none to be had in Scotland either. Means I don't have to worry about whether or not to use it

For those in the Bolton area, the Shell station on Crompton way is now stocking V-power both Diesel and Petrol.

The V-power diesel is 99.9p per litre compared with 93.9 for the normal diesel.

The V-power unleaded is

For those in the Bolton area, the Shell station on Crompton way is now stocking V-power both Diesel and Petrol.

The V-power diesel is 99.9p per litre compared with 93.9 for the normal diesel.

The V-power unleaded is

Ok - so you want the car to last as long as it can BUT you can't vouch for the engine deposits. So all you've done is said Shell say it helps clean the engine, therefore my engine must be better off? There's loads of old bangers out there that have done silly high miles, not been run on "premium" fuels or additives, and still run as well as the day they were made. Same with the taxis.

Chris

I'm not saying everyone should use it, I'm just saying it could be useful stuff to try out as I used the petrol version and found it made a difference with mpg and power.

Yes, lots of cars and taxis run perfectly well without additives but higher cetane will be better for the engine. especially those with lots of miles or for those that have been tuned.

But if you don't like don't buy it!

Looks like my local Shell stations stock it.

Snake W-Power Oil race fuel embraces revolutionary STL (Snake to liquid) technology. Snake STL is extracted from natural snakes and has outstanding cetane quality and exceptional purity which means it burns more cleanly and efficiently than conventional oil.

Yeah, but can I cook my chips in it? (silicon ones)

The shell garage opposite the football ground in Wrexham has just got in so I decided to try some. I'll see if my economy or performance improves - After the 2 mile drive home there was nothing to report!!

I was thinking though that the garage is unlikely to clean the storage tank out so surely they've just tipped a load of v power into the old diesel tank meaning it's going to be diluted with normal diesel and all the crap and sediment in the bottom of the tank???

The Shell Garage in Barnsley oppsosite the Ford dealer sell v-power diesel. I filled the fab vrs up a couple of days ago and put 42litres in so I guess it wont take long to get the old stuff out. The whole powerdelivery is much smoother through the whole rev range. It doesn't feel as quick as before but it performs just aswell as before. I will try another couple of tank fulls and see if it makes a difference in mpg.

v-power petrol seemed to deliver the power much smoother in my old octi vrs and it did return 2-3mpg more that 95ron fuel. I am expecting the same from the diesel stuff.