That's a big generalisation

If the unit is designed for a Xenon bulb then there will be no problem, you don't need a projector lense. A lot of new Civics come with normal reflectors/Xenons and these work fine. Conversely A mk2 Punto is fitted with projectors and these are crap with Xenons fitted.

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Volvo V70, Older Merc C, E and S class And the older shape Honda ATR to name but a few. These have reflector type xenon headlamps.

The light output from a xenon capsule is far more concentrated than a halogen filament so the reflector/projector lens must be designed accordingly.

you buy those after? maybe i should have gone and bought some for my oct I for £300 ish.

No, thats the price for factory fit from new

I fitted aftermarket HIDs to my fabia with the standard lights and they were not suitable, light scattered too much.

Dont bother with it.

I fitted aftermarket HIDs to my fabia with the standard lights and they were not suitable, light scattered too much.

Dont bother with it.

I had exactly the same problem with my Octy Mk1, great for lighting up motorway gantries but no good for lighting up the road :thumbdwn:

No, thats the price for factory fit from new

thats £300 a peice aint it not £300 a pair?

i did see some on ebay looked good but i was short at the time, would have had to get leveling system aswell which im sure isnt cheap. does anyone know the best place to get oem units? aiming to get them for a reasonable price.

thats £300 a peice aint it not £300 a pair?

No, £500 was the price for the full xenon kit option when buying the car new.

I had exactly the same problem with my Octy Mk1, great for lighting up motorway gantries but no good for lighting up the road :thumbdwn:

Yes, I could see the birds getting a good night sleep up in the tree tops.

Yes, I could see the birds getting a good night sleep up in the tree tops.

Are they really that bad ?

I had considered a kit in the past.

But not now. :thumbdwn:

They are pretty bad.

They dont even look that good tbh.

I'll keep me cash (or lack of it) then.

yeah i now know hid's are a waste of time! at least h4 one's anyway.

£500 is cheap for xenon's ive only ever seen them for £1000 or so.

Obviously a lot cheaper to order from the factory than retrofit.

Pity mine didn't come with them.

thats £300 a peice aint it not £300 a pair?

i did see some on ebay looked good but i was short at the time, would have had to get leveling system aswell which im sure isnt cheap. does anyone know the best place to get oem units? aiming to get them for a reasonable price.

No, £500 is the price to get them fitted at the factory as an OEM option

To fit them after the factory I think you looking at more like £1000 for the full kit as well as a nightmare of a job. Without the levellers and wahsers they are no more legal than the aftermarket kits.

No, £500 is the price to get them fitted at the factory as an OEM option

To fit them after the factory I think you looking at more like £1000 for the full kit as well as a nightmare of a job. Without the levellers and wahsers they are no more legal than the aftermarket kits.

yeah a real pain, i just found a website that does the units and they are £451 a peice :eek:

yet the mk3 octavia (mk2 is facelift from 2001 according to website) is a mere £191.

when i mentioned £1000 thats what i seen xenon option for ie leon mk2. wish i was able to take up the units i spotted on ebay that were goin for £300 for the pair.

That's a big generalisation

If the unit is designed for a Xenon bulb then there will be no problem, you don't need a projector lense. A lot of new Civics come with normal reflectors/Xenons and these work fine. Conversely A mk2 Punto is fitted with projectors and these are crap with Xenons fitted.

That was my point though, a retro fit into a reflector light that started life as a halogen light was never designed for HID's, whereas the projector light was comes with either.

I assume that when sweedish mentioned the ltd edition vrs, he was referring to the Octy, as he owns an Octy? could be wrong tho'