I dont really like it to be honest. Surprises me all the time. Cant wait for the dry!!

Anyone else find this

Slow down then!

Haven't got one but it's normal for a stiffer ARB or strut brace to cause quick wet weather break-away.

It's the old adage. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch...everthing is a trade off.

I am still pondering about a Jabba ARB; but the thing I find the Furby in general its pretty docile in the wet - simply because I don't find I am able to get enough speed in a bend for the back end to get nasty, the understeer is just too great.

I am still pondering about a Jabba ARB; but the thing I find the Furby in general its pretty docile in the wet - simply because I don't find I am able to get enough speed in a bend for the back end to get nasty, the understeer is just too great.

A ARB will sort this out. Dont get me wrong its fun on slippy roundabouts, but when im coming home at 5am and im tired its a bit hairy

That's the thing mate - a performance-tuned car loses its granny-safe driving characteristics......

Just drive really slow whenever you're tired, and enjoy it when you're not.

TC

Bas

I love my jabba bar, the car is always predictable and sure footed, even in the wet.

Round abouts are lots of fun

Buy some decent tyres!

Fitting thew RARB will put a lot more stress on the tyres and if you have cack ones fitted you might as well have stayed at home in the warm and dry

Buy some decent tyres!

Fitting thew RARB will put a lot more stress on the tyres and if you have cack ones fitted you might as well have stayed at home in the warm and dry

Yeh and thats another thing - I am still not really getting to grips with my Toyo Proxies - they where fantastic on my Punto...I dunno maybe I got a duff set - they just don't seem to give any warning when your on or even nearing the limit in the dry. They just break away, like everything else I believed in.

Had mine on for a year now, and it's only surprised me once in that time (which was quite enough!). And I'm not a particularly good driver. What kind of things are you asking of the car at 5am when you're tired for it to bite back? :eek:

Hmmm, decent tyres (that you can trust) are a pre-req I'd say when fitting a RARB. Since fitting mine it's made me have to think a bit more on twisty roads in the wet.

The Fabia is still a heavy car and now it corners flatter there's sooo much more stress on the tyres. Couple that with slippy roads and you'll easily end up in a hedge if you push it too hard.

i quite like the fact it breaks away under hard cornering,

Yet to drive mine properly in the dry since fitting. Looking forward to that day as it will be one to remember I suspect.

personally i don't like a twitchy car, my mazda before getting the bushes and new tyres i would granny it round wet country roads as i new it could simply step out at any time and if it did(which it did a couple times at slow speed luckily) there was no warning and it was virtually impossible to get back without hitting something on the way. even now with the better tyres etc on am a bit careful on roads i don't know or if its very wet.

the same goes for my works van, in the dry i'll push it as hard as i can and have 100% confidence in it but in the wet i am a bit careful with it as it can slip out quickly and the back end of a 2.5T van carries a lot of momentum.

i have always thought the same about the fabia with this rear arb from what others have said, sounds dangerous to me tbh.

Is it lift-off oversteer?

Chris

with the arb on in the wet,it is very proressive,but tbh you still need to be going like a **** to get it to step out,i only know it does it because,in the interest of science,on a deserted car park i was trying it,never had it happen under normal driving conditions:thumbup:

I wonder if the cars fitted with ESP will still keep you out of trouble with the rear ARB fitted?

In theory it should, but will it?

yes they will.

Yeh and thats another thing - I am still not really getting to grips with my Toyo Proxies - they where fantastic on my Punto...I dunno maybe I got a duff set - they just don't seem to give any warning when your on or even nearing the limit in the dry. They just break away, like everything else I believed in.

Ahhh, thats the great hing about them, they are predicatble. Especially with the RARB you know exactly where it's going to go.

It must be lift off oversteer...

The standard fabia setup will break away very quickly at the limit, the RARB equipped Fabia is progressive, predicatble and FUN!!!

I'd get booked onto a handling day mate

I wonder if the cars fitted with ESP will still keep you out of trouble with the rear ARB fitted?

In theory it should, but will it?

In theory it should but I wouldn't rely on it in all circumstances. Haven't driven a Furby with RARB and ESP but my mates Golf GTI will lift-off oversteer in the wet with ESP on. I've experienced it.

with the arb on in the wet,it is very proressive,but tbh you still need to be going like a **** to get it to step out,i only know it does it because,in the interest of science,on a deserted car park i was trying it,never had it happen under normal driving conditions:thumbup:

Thing is it isn't normal conditions that usually catches people out. Oil, diesel, ice, mud on the road along with bumps along with driving too fast usually causes the most problems IMHO.

:iagree:

my mate ditched his clio 182 on a dead straight road even with ESP. he was racing someone and the road has bumps built into it to try and slow people down but it didn't slow these two down

anyway basically his clio bounced after a bump and skipped sideways slightly as it hit the next bump so turned mid air and as it landed it kicked the other way and threw him into the ditch at about 100mph.

ESP will never save you when your not in contact with the road!! but yeah its the times that your not thinking about needing esp that it saves you, its the instant gut reactions of turn and brake to avoid something combined with oil/water/mud etc that it saves you not on a track

:iagree:

my mate ditched his clio 182 on a dead straight road even with ESP. he was racing someone and the road has bumps built into it to try and slow people down but it didn't slow these two down

anyway basically his clio bounced after a bump and skipped sideways slightly as it hit the next bump so turned mid air and as it landed it kicked the other way and threw him into the ditch at about 100mph.

ESP will never save you when your not in contact with the road!! but yeah its the times that your not thinking about needing esp that it saves you, its the instant gut reactions of turn and brake to avoid something combined with oil/water/mud etc that it saves you not on a track

if his dad's 3 series had esp, guppy wouldn't have wrecked it. if c didn't have esp in her merc, she would have crashed it. neither of them were driving like idiots

The ESP I had on my VRS was brilliant to the point it was annoying, you couldn't catch it out.

On a track day I would get about 1/2 round the first lap and realise I had forgotton to turn it off (It slows the car in the corners big style but you wont loose it even if you are on the track). When I pulled in after a few hot ones, I would forget to turn it off on the next trip out (The default it on), so I know very well what it does in all sorts of situations.

It will not however help you defy the laws of physics.

spot on there decron, the amount of people that won't believe you when you try and tell them. a mate at work simply won't believe me about how good esp is and my dad keeps argueing(his astra has esp) that how can the esp recover a car when its got sideways?!?!

quite simply it won't get sideways!

the mate at work that says that esp won't work all the time tried telling me that doing an emergency stop at 130mph+ would make you crash and esp couldn't save you well i didn't crash and my esp didn't come into play only my abs :P (it was on an airfield not the road btw).