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What The Guardian says on this matter..... http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/sep/24/volkswagen-emission-scandal-how-it-affects-you

So, let's say that all the VAG group 1.6 and 2.0 EA189 diesels all have the "emissions defeat software" fitted (which is highly likely as emission CO2 figures are very much similar across the brands); What are the possible outcomes and fallout from this? - 100% recall by VAG for all cars affected for software revision - This would give two possible outcomes....either they keep the same power and torque outputs and emissions officially increase or they keep the emissions the same and power and torque are reduced. - If power and torque are reduced then then owners are due compensation based upon misrepresentation under the sales of goods act. - If emissions are increased then owners are possibly due compensation based upon misrepresentation under the sales of goods act as long as they can prove that they will be losing out on either long term residual value as a direct consequence of the changes or the owners are directly financially burdened due to any increase in road tax levy. I chose my Seat 184 FR for the wife based on power, running costs and residuals and now all three could theoretically change. If the Mrs keeps the car for ten years, then tax becomes more of a concern, whereas if if she keeps the car three years it is residuals which are more of a possible concern. How would you base claiming for any compensation, which all people affected SHOULD be due? If she kept the car for another ten years and the government re-assessed the car from its current £30 a year tax to the next class up at £110, then why should she foot the extra £800 bill? If she kept the car for three years and part exchanged the car and it turned out that she lost out on residuals by £1k+ Due to the VAG debacle why should she foot the extra £1k+? ..... and the extra £240 road tax? Regardless of residuals and possible extra taxation, if the emissions are reduced by a compulsory recall, why should she have to drive a car that would inevitably have less power, torque and maybe a worse fuel consumption than what she originally bought the car with. This is especially pertinent for most drivers who selected the most powerful diesel in the VAG range. I know that I for one looked at the extra power and torque the 184 gave over its competitors, so why should I possibly have to run a car with less and if this was the case, how much would the car lose? 10bhp? 20bhp?30bhp? 20lbft? 30lbft?, 40lbft? Where do I stand if I tell the dealer to bugger off and that they aren't touching my car?

Mapped TDi 184 = definitely DSG! Torque is too much for a manual. DSG isn't perfect, but suits a mapped car better than stock. More power left higher up the revs and more torque lower down means that in drive and sport a 184 is a better match with DSG.

They were Leon 5 spokes for my Seat Leon FR184. The tyres are Kumho KW27's.They are still with the dealer and will be fitted first week in October. Bought at my local JCT600 dealer in Sheffield.

Just to add to this. To avoid any complications I simply went down to my local dealer and said..... "I want some winter alloys and tyres for the car. What do you recommend for it?" I ended up with brand new 17" alloys and a full set of H rated winter premium tyres at 225/45/17 94H. When I questioned him on load and speed rating he simply said. "You have purchased them from your dealer and they are the recommended specification for your car" I left it at that. Price came in at £658 for brand new wheels AND tyres combined.

I will at some point.REVO quote 217-236ps and 345-380lbft and I reckon using Shell Nitro+ Diesel gives me closer to the top end of that. Overtaking is a breeze even above 60mph and you have to be aware of the extra grunt off the line as it breaks traction quite easily in 1stand 2nd.

Well, I mapped my 184 Leon with REVO yesterday and it does make a decent amount of extra grunt. Happy now.

Probably just a low reading dyno Harvey. Which would also mean that on another more "complimentary" dyno you may have seen more power and torque before and after.

It does seem low on torque as REVO quote 345-380lbft on their site for stage 1 VRS 184.

I ran it from February last year till the end of July this year at 500/420. Before that it had a hybrid K04 map running close to 400bhp and 400lbft for over a year. The engine and gearbox still ran perfect when I sold the car on. I also had a nitrous injection Edition30 before that running 380lbft off nitrous and 510lbft with nitrous. The 6 speed DSG boxes are very strong. The internals only vary by the ratios in the diesel from the petrol versions and both are very strong. It is VERY rare that you will see a DSG box fail especially at a stage 1 or 2. A manual gearbox is a different animal. I have seen a few of those kill the clutch, but not the DMF or box itself. You really do have to be torturing the gearbox at high tuning levels to get close to harming one.

I had a 500bhp/420lbft Golf R MK6 on a standard 6 speed DSG box with only mapping and it coped perfectly. Shouldn't be any problems coping with 300+lbft.

Now that is what I have been looking for. I have just bought a Leon FR184 diesel DSG and I am looking at putting a map on it. This looks like what I need.

The spark plugs are NGK iridium IX - BKR7EIX - 2667. £36 from Euro car parts. I doubt it is the map Pitbull as there are plenty of people like myself who haven't had any issues with it. You could get the guys to have a look at the valves. I've read a few posts now where coking of the valves is stopping them seating correctly, causing misfires.

Hmm, I wonder if APR have only had older cars in then as from mid 2011 the ECU swapped to a new encrypted one which normally requires the ECU box to be opened and the pins "hacked" to open the encryption up. They do have VRsy's car, but his may not have the encrypted ECU. Strange one.

I'd go with misaligned, especially when you look at the thread markings on the inside of the spacer holes. They are quite pronounced on one side and nothing on the other. Never heard of spacers failing like this before.....and I've seen a lot of cars with them on!