Just some info for anyone who's interested, Performance Car Magazine are reviewing the Octy II vRS (TFSI at a guess) along with the Golf GTi and Seat Leon Cupra in next months issue. It's a yellow one too!

The vRS when its hanging it's ****-end out looked like mine doing the same this morning... :eek:

Glad it held on!

Could be an interesting read, plus VXR8 versus Lotus Carlton should be good too.

Could be an interesting read, plus VXR8 versus Lotus Carlton should be good too.

Surely no contest the vxr8 will stuff the lotus all but top end.

Could be an interesting read, plus VXR8 versus Lotus Carlton should be good too.

There was a big feature in Total Vauxhall the other mont with 6 or 7 LC's and the new VXR8 - was an interesting read too IMO

Think one of the LCs used in that is the one in this Article too

IIRC the Lotus was a twin turbo 3.6. I reckon it would give a VXR8 a good run.

Lotus carlton spec

engine GM Inline-6

position Front Longitudinal

aspiration Twin Garret T25 Turbochargers

valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cyl

displacement 3615 cc / 220.6 cu in

bore 95 mm / 3.74 in

stroke 85 mm / 3.35 in

compression 8.2:1

power 281.1 kw / 377.0 bhp @ 5200 rpm

hp per litre 104.29 bhp per litre

bhp/weight 228.07 bhp per tonne

torque 568.1 nm / 419.0 ft lbs @ 4200 rpm

redline 6200

drive wheels RWD w/Limited Slip

Vxr8 spec

6.0 GEN4 LS2 V8 petrol (5967cc)

Maximum power: 417PS (307kW) @ 6000rpm

Maximum torque: 550Nm (405 lb.ft.) @ 4400rpm

Compression ratio: 10.9:1

Bore/stroke: 101.6mm x 92.0mm

Looks like it could be a close thing.

Lotus carlton spec

engine GM Inline-6

position Front Longitudinal

aspiration Twin Garret T25 Turbochargers

valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cyl

displacement 3615 cc / 220.6 cu in

bore 95 mm / 3.74 in

stroke 85 mm / 3.35 in

compression 8.2:1

power 281.1 kw / 377.0 bhp @ 5200 rpm

hp per litre 104.29 bhp per litre

bhp/weight 228.07 bhp per tonne

torque 568.1 nm / 419.0 ft lbs @ 4200 rpm

redline 6200

drive wheels RWD w/Limited Slip

Vxr8 spec

6.0 GEN4 LS2 V8 petrol (5967cc)

Maximum power: 417PS (307kW) @ 6000rpm

Maximum torque: 550Nm (405 lb.ft.) @ 4400rpm

Compression ratio: 10.9:1

Bore/stroke: 101.6mm x 92.0mm

Looks like it could be a close thing.

The TV Mag review said they were

The only reason they compares them was because the VXR8 is like the New Gen Lotus Carlton - Highly powerful 4-door Saloon, with a crappy badge

Did anyone see 5th Gear when for the shoot out they had a VXR8 against the Lotus Carlton? Sadly the VXR8 won but that may have been down to Smutler Henderson's driving!

Did anyone see 5th Gear when for the shoot out they had a VXR8 against the Lotus Carlton? Sadly the VXR8 won but that may have been down to Smutler Henderson's driving!

:rofl:

I'd put it on the Lotus Carton to just pip it, with a decent driver. They are astonishingly quick!

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the upside down, triangulated exhaust tail pipe on the Corsa VXR looks completely rubbish? :thumbdwn:

Got the mag yesterday. No great revelations in the group test tbh, all standard stuff.

The hack twittered on about the golf had more feel and a bteter all round drive etc.

IMHO the golf looks like a big piece of cheese and costs 3k more. The Cupra looked about as practical as chainsaw for key hole surgery

The VRS is far nicer, just a shame about the mid-life-crisis yellow colour lol!

Got the mag yesterday. No great revelations in the group test tbh, all standard stuff.

The hack twittered on about the golf had more feel and a bteter all round drive etc.

IMHO the golf looks like a big piece of cheese and costs 3k more. The Cupra looked about as practical as chainsaw for key hole surgery

The VRS is far nicer, just a shame about the mid-life-crisis yellow colour lol!

I read the review, and I thought the reasons for buying each were ok:

Cupra because it has more power

Gti because it apparently has a higher quality feel and is a bit more composed

VRS because you can have more sideways fun and is as quick on the twisties as the cupra.

There you go, I've just saved everybody £4 (or you can just g and read it in tesco or smiths and stillsave the cash)

Cheers both.

Now someone do the decent think and scan it in!!!

And the Golf is exactly the same in terms of build quality and materials as the Octy, imho, although I think the Octy has a nicer styled dash.

Now someone do the decent think and scan it in!!!

If you are that interested in it then buy a copy you tight so and so. :P

IMHO the golf looks like a big piece of cheese and costs 3k more.

Did make me chuckle..

And the Golf is exactly the same in terms of build quality and materials as the Octy, imho, although I think the Octy has a nicer styled dash.

I disagree regarding interior build quality - mine has more rattles then either my TT or Golf ever had.

I disagree regarding interior build quality - mine has more rattles then either my TT or Golf ever had.

Mines an 06 with getting on for 30k, not a squeak or rattle anywhere :confused:

Wonder whether the new Golf rattles at all :rubchin:

I disagree regarding interior build quality - mine has more rattles then either my TT or Golf ever had.

I'd agree with ya.

Anyone notice how little there is in performance between the Vrs and GTi, and the GTi had 38,000 mile under its belt, truly run-in, and the Vrs only 1,483 not at all run-in.

What's more from 0 to 100mph the Vrs is quicker and gets even quicker there up, and as for better quality fittings and finish, what a load of ****, any car tester always has to say that to justify the £3,000 price premium.

Vrs Vrs Vrs

0-60 7.1 Sec 0-100 18.3 Sec 0-120 31.5 Sec

GTi GTi GTi

0-60 6.8 Sec 0-100 19.0 Sec 0-120 36.2 Sec

To be honest the interior quality is slightly better on the VW. The door handles are a bit more flimsey(inside). The grab handles don't have a soft return. The pillars aren't cloth covered. The radio doesn't have metal buttons. Interior lights are used from older model VW's etc. However these are minor things that i wouldn't pay an extra 3k for.

I think the dash is a nicer design than the Golf though.

The reason the Octy is quicker up top is because it's more aerodynamic than the Golf.

I purchased the magasine in question Friday and it's quite a good read - may consider changing from Evo which isn't what it once was.

As for the review, the conclusions were pretty much as expected and as reported in about every other review.

Having trouble trying to find it :thumbdwn:

I struggled to get a copy to, had to go into Cambridge to the big WHS.

Tis a good read.

I sat in both a new vrs and the golf gti this weekend (mk I vrs owner looking for a new car!).

In the golf, I thought the gear knob was nicer than the vrs, and in every other respect I preferred the vrs. Whilst the quality of the mk I vrs interior is poor (how many non-matching different kinds of plastic?) I thought the new vrs interior was not noticeably poorer quality than the golf's. Also, the golf's standard cloth trim seats are DISGUSTING.

And my 5 yr old son summed up the problem with the golf as I opened the boot..... "small boot".

With those that have posted on the poor quality of the vrs interior - why is this? My mk I has not a single rattle, and it is a Y-reg.