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Weld In rear brace and 4 point harnesses.

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Yet another random thread from Mr Skudmissile.

Waiting for parts for the head swap today so i decided to play around with the car.

Found some angle iron in the shed and my welder, then the brain cells started ticking. I then proceeded to strip the rear interior and weld in the angle section.

then bolted in my new 4 point harnesses. Not bad for a few hours work, its even colour coded black magic as thats the only paint i could find :rofl:

heres the pics

Ps back to black grill for all those who hated the white ;)

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Brain cells ticking eh John? That explains a lot(!!)

:D

Whats with the helmet.

Do you wear that down the traffic lights drag strip ?????

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Whats with the helmet.

Do you wear that down the traffic lights drag strip ?????

Its standard issue int he missile, youve never seen my driving have you? :rofl:

mmmm it's going tooooo extream for my liking but aslong as it does everything you want it to then :thumbup:

Well, got to be a furby first that. :D (I dread to think what I'd be like if I knew how to weld.... :o)

very nice job mate. just wondering - that horizontal section is a bit long - could it use another vertical bit anchored to the 3rd OEM seatbelt mounting for strength?

Looks great tbh....

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very nice job mate. just wondering - that horizontal section is a bit long - could it use another vertical bit anchored to the 3rd OEM seatbelt mounting for strength?

Looks great tbh....

Thanks Bas :thumbup:

Its really actually very strong, the angled section is actually high strength spring steel so gives very good bending moment resistance.

I have actually been pondering for a while about making a full roll cage for the fabia. I know how they like to go on their roofs ;):rofl:

I'd invest in some better seats, not sure how the top of the standard seat frame would cope holding the harnesses where they should be in the event of them being needed.

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Well, got to be a furby first that. :D (I dread to think what I'd be like if I knew how to weld.... :o)

Ill teach you, its really easy with a MIG welder. Ill fetch my mig, a generator and scrap bits of steel to trax as you can practice :thumbup::rofl:

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I'd invest in some better seats, not sure how the top of the standard seat frame would cope holding the harnesses where they should be in the event of them being needed.

yer i did think about that, they do feel awefully spongy..... :o

Priced some nice carbon fibre backed ones up at work this evening £900 each :thumbup: thats my next investement after the camshaft replacement

Don't want to put the dampers on your full harness mod. But when I used to rally my Mk 1 Lotus Cortina and then later a Mk 1 Twin Cam Escort the scrutineers would not let you compete unless the modifications had an 'approved' certificate, either by the third party manufacturer or Fords Competition Dept.

Also, looking at the small brackets that secure the belts to the angle iron, they are designed to be fitted lower down rather than in an almost horizontal position. They are designed to take the full body force of the wearer at the correct angle.

So with this in mind, think what your insurance company may come up with if you had an accident and either (heaven forbid) you and your passenger were injured. They could wriggle out of a claim and if your passenger was injured he/she could make a claim against you...and you could be paying that claim for the rest of your life...

i really like the look of that top work

Stunning bit of work there Skud!! Looks really, really smart. Just out of interest, the bolts you used are High Tensile right? I canne see any markings on the bolt heads.

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Don't want to put the dampers on your full harness mod. But when I used to rally my Mk 1 Lotus Cortina and then later a Mk 1 Twin Cam Escort the scrutineers would not let you compete unless the modifications had an 'approved' certificate, either by the third party manufacturer or Fords Competition Dept.

So with this in mind, think what your insurance company may come up with if you had an accident and either (haven forbid) you and your passenger were injured. They could wriggle out of a claim and if your passenger was injured he/she could make a claim against you...and you could be paying that claim for the rest of your life...

When the car is on the road the orginal seat belts are still in place and are used.

I wouldnt use harnesses on the road as they dont have pretensioners.

They were just abit of a mess around with the welder and i had them so i thought why not ;)

Will use them on the bylton track day then probably take them out.

Very nice mate

Davy

I hope you welded some big thick spreader plates to the bodywork before welding the angle in?

The last thing you want if you have a major shunt is the angle ripping away from the bodywork and coming forward at a high rate on knots :eek: :eek:

Ill teach you, its really easy with a MIG welder. Ill fetch my mig, a generator and scrap bits of steel to trax as you can practice :thumbup::rofl:

I'll hold you to that!!! :P

I did have a practise at welding a few years ago when we were building a pram to use in a local pram race. All I can remember is it created a spark by touching a reel fed spool of weld to the metal you were welding, and a big clamp was on an earth. Dunno if that was MIG - might have been. Needed the visor to prevent arc-eye though!

if they are not for road use... what is their point as they dont look to be FIA approved?

i would be careful with that mounting - i was able to warp the orig seatbelt mounts in my octavia whilst running harnesses

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I hope you welded some big thick spreader plates to the bodywork before welding the angle in?

The last thing you want if you have a major shunt is the angle ripping away from the bodywork and coming forward at a high rate on knots :eek: :eek:

Its welded to thick part of the wheel arch, Where the seat usually bolts to :thumbup:

Its srong enough, tested it

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if they are not for road use... what is their point as they dont look to be FIA approved?

i would be careful with that mounting - i was able to warp the orig seatbelt mounts in my octavia whilst running harnesses

They arnt, they are cheap ****ty ones.

They have no point, I was bored and had them, so I fitted them. Like I said they will end up being taked out at some point.

Was really just an experiment to see if it could be done.

"They have no point, I was bored and had them, so I fitted them."

How true.

On so many occasions.

Its welded to thick part of the wheel arch, Where the seat usually bolts to :thumbup:

Its srong enough, tested it

I wouldn't put money on it, you would be amazed what can get ripped out of the bodywork.

I'm not quite sure how you can test the bar from stopping 20+ stone (2 people) from violently snatching it forward, which is what would happen if god forbid you came to a halt rather quickly, it would just tear the metal right next to the weld.

Then you have the biggest problem - a weapon hurtling towards your head.

Hey Skud, looks cool!!!! I get bored like that on occasion too, but never actually get as fer as welding stuff to my car!!!! I normally get to the thinking part and then give up and put the telly on.... Top marks for industriousness!! :D :D :D

I'd invest in some better seats, not sure how the top of the standard seat frame would cope holding the harnesses where they should be in the event of them being needed.

I'm guessing that the seats would "fold like a cheap hooker who got hit in the stomach by a fat guy with sores on his face"

:D

But it's got to be better than people who bolt harnesses real low and think it's all good and use them in anger :confused:

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