Besides seeing 2 cars treat normal public roads as a race track.

Was on the motorway and its still alarming the number of complete idiots.

One guy in a Transit overtakes me.

Whats wrong with that? I'm in the middle lane overtaking someone at 65mph. Transit is in the outside lane with a tralier hitched and the roads quite damp.

And coming back. Theres a woman in a Golf Mk4 oblivious why people are flashing her etc. Shes only blooming driving with the full beam on. And an MX5 driver puilled back into lane without fully checking if her car was clear of mine, nearly hit my frint wing but she might have been dazzled by the Golf.

Glad I'm home now though

Worse things happen unfortunately. Best cure for people who drive on full beams is to have some extra bright bulbs and give them a dose of your own But would be just luck the police come out of nowhere and pull you over as the full beamer drives on.

Worse things happen unfortunately. ...

like the ickle girlie in the ickle Saxo that whupped Gary's ***...

i apologise captin s i won't race on the road again(i might get royally whupped by somthing else i should have beaten)

Worse things happen unfortunately. Best cure for people who drive on full beams is to have some extra bright bulbs and give them a dose of your own But would be just luck the police come out of nowhere and pull you over as the full beamer drives on.

In the dim and distant past, I had a Citroen BX with the subtle addition of two sets of Cibie Oscars on the front - 2 spots, 2 driving. All four, and the car headlights had 100W bulbs in (the headlamps were 100/80). Flashing 600W of highly focused light was quite effective at moving middle lane drivers.

Came across one the other week, I was in the middle lane at 70mph overtaking cars that were in lane 1, an Astra came up in lane 3 so fast and so close (it must have been less than a foot) that the air flow from his car caused mine to shake. Later on I caught up with him, he was in lane 1 doing 60 mph and when I went to pass him in lane 2 he started to drift out in front of me, I held back and watched and he was veering all over the place. The driver must have been drunk.

i find coming up lane one and then starting to pulse the full beam (notice not flash but gently pulse it like a heart beat), and moving then over from lanes one to three often does it especially if you are moving at a brisk rate

I drove up the M4 last night from Reading pretty much the whole way to Newport and couldn't believe that pretty much all the traffic was jammed into the middle and outside lanes.

It was hilarious. You watch people speed upto the back of the pack brake hard and then all sit there in a clump doing 65 while the inside line is clear for miles. Then you get the motorway virgins (People who sit in their cars driving about 6 inches away from the steering wheel, people who didn't learn to drive in this country and grandma and grandpa on their way to visit the nippers in their rover 75) in the middle lane not realising they are slowing the whole lot down.

Everyone should have to retake their test evey 5 years and it should include motorway.

Edited 19 July, 200817 yr by Decron

half the problem is because there are no lessons on the motorway many beleive the motorway is the same as a dual carriage way with a lorry lane added to the left:eek: and perhaps if the highway code was reprinted with the words keep left unles overtaking, middle lane hogging is an offence and is punishable by blah blah blah then it might make a few more people take notice.

personally i think at the petrol station instead of putting the latest 3 for the price of two on top of the pump, extracts as did you know facts on highway code should be placed there instead.

lastly if more cops were put on traffic dutys like in the 80's then we would have a better freeflowing road network as people would obbey the law a bit more as they would be more worried of being pulled knowing the amount of cops on the road as apposed to now where they know there is little chance of being pulled.

half the problem is because there are no lessons on the motorway many beleive the motorway is the same as a dual carriage way with a lorry lane added to the left:eek: and perhaps if the highway code was reprinted with the words keep left unles overtaking, middle lane hogging is an offence and is punishable by blah blah blah then it might make a few more people take notice.

personally i think at the petrol station instead of putting the latest 3 for the price of two on top of the pump, extracts as did you know facts on highway code should be placed there instead.

lastly if more cops were put on traffic dutys like in the 80's then we would have a better freeflowing road network as people would obbey the law a bit more as they would be more worried of being pulled knowing the amount of cops on the road as apposed to now where they know there is little chance of being pulled.

^^^ what he said.

I want to know who this was the other day annoying me

you got a land rover now?

I drove up the M4 last night from Reading pretty much the whole way to Newport and couldn't believe that pretty much all the traffic was jammed into the middle and outside lanes.

It was hilarious. You watch people speed upto the back of the pack brake hard and then all sit there in a clump doing 65 while the inside line is clear for miles. Then you get the motorway virgins (People who sit in their cars driving about 6 inches away from the steering wheel, people who didn't learn to drive in this country and grandma and grandpa on their way to visit the nippers in their rover 75) in the middle lane not realising they are slowing the whole lot down.

Everyone should have to retake their test evey 5 years and it should include motorway.

What's your plan for all the people who don't live within 15 minutes of a motorway?

My test included a NSL Dual Carriageway and that was scary enough for me at that time, especially as I had to join it from a slip road on the test route.

What's your plan for all the people who don't live within 15 minutes of a motorway?

That's their problem. If you don't take a test that includes motorway you can't use it.

What's your plan for all the people who don't live within 15 minutes of a motorway?

Put the new centralised test centres within 15 mins of 3 or more lane motorway. Not my problem how you get there :P

I'm a firm believer in longer, stricter and regular testing but realise its completely unworkable. :(

I want to know who this was the other day annoying me

Did that plane just leave the treadmill?

My test included a NSL Dual Carriageway and that was scary enough for me at that time, especially as I had to join it from a slip road on the test route.

I did my driving test in Central-ish manchester. Spent the first 10 mins of the 40 min test stationary due to traffic. During the entire time, I only did about 400m on a 40mph limit dual carriageway. The rest was 20 and 30mph zones. :rolleyes:

No way on earth the test was an accurate representation of my driving or the sort of drving one would expect to do after passing a test.

Still passed though.

Put the new centralised test centres within 15 mins of 3 or more lane motorway. Not my problem how you get there :P

I'm a firm believer in longer, stricter and regular testing but realise its completely unworkable. :(

It's not about it being unworkable, anything is workable. It's just the fact this would be so unpopular it would loose votes.....

The fact that in ten years time the roads would be safer, more efficient cheaper to run and less congested etc makes no odds because no goverment plans much past their own term.

Today I was waiting in line for fuel and I watched the women on the pump in front of me (Nissan Micra ) spend ten minutes (Longest ten minutes of my life) trying to put £5 of fuel in. She couldn't even do the cap up. How the hell is she safe to drive????? She must have started the car on put it into gear because As she put her seatbelt on she dropped the clutch, jumped forward and stalled. Took her another 5 minutes to restart, reverse and pull off the pump clipping a kerb as she went. She might have passed her test 30 years ago but she is just a menance these days. A 5 year retest would remove these "Drivers" from the roads, impratical though it would be and not without drawbacks it definately has more pros than cons.

It will come to a point where the roads will stop working and we will all suffer. Better the few suffer now that all of us later.

Edited 21 July, 200817 yr by Decron

Today I was waiting in line for fuel and I watched the women on the pump in front of me (Nissan Micra ) spend ten minutes (Longest ten minutes of my life) trying to put £5 of fuel in. She couldn't even do the cap up. How the hell is she safe to drive????? She must have started the car on put it into gear because As she put her seatbelt on she dropped the clutch, forward and stalled. Took her another 5 minutes to restart, reverse and pull off the pump. She might have passed her test 30 years ago but she is just a menance these days. A 5 year retest would remove these "Drivers" from the roads, impratical though it would be and not without drawbacks it definately has more pros than cons.

Perhaps you ought to try driving a car with an unfamiliar and sticky fuel cap? I've seen one case where I and my mechanic mate took 20 minutes to get the cap off for a lady.

Today I was waiting in line for fuel and I watched the women on the pump in front of me (Nissan Micra ) spend ten minutes (Longest ten minutes of my life) trying to put £5 of fuel in. She couldn't even do the cap up. How the hell is she safe to drive????? She must have started the car on put it into gear because As she put her seatbelt on she dropped the clutch, forward and stalled. Took her another 5 minutes to restart, reverse and pull off the pump.

Given that:

1. It was a Micra.

2. She was only putting a fiver of fuel in

3. She didn't exhibit knowledge of the car's fuel cap

4. She didn't exhibit proficient usage of the clutch during manouevring

is it possible that she had actually just collected a courtesy car and wasn't entirely familiar with it?

Rob.

Given that:

1. It was a Micra.

2. She was only putting a fiver of fuel in

3. She didn't exhibit knowledge of the car's fuel cap

4. She didn't exhibit proficient usage of the clutch during manouevring

is it possible that she had actually just collected a courtesy car and wasn't entirely familiar with it?

Rob.

I'd say that was entirely possible. Yes, I can adapt to a "new" car's clutch in about 2 minutes, but I know and accept that not everyone is that fortunate.

It's not about it being unworkable, anything is workable. It's just the fact this would be so unpopular it would loose votes.....

I agree with you but unfortunately politically unacceptable = unworkable in just about every Politics for dummies manual going. :(

Perhaps you ought to try driving a car with an unfamiliar and sticky fuel cap? I've seen one case where I and my mechanic mate took 20 minutes to get the cap off for a lady.

Why?

I make sure I can use mine before I go out onto the road.

I agree with you but unfortunately politically unacceptable = unworkable in just about every Politics for dummies manual going. :(

Perhaps one or both of you would like to try and explain why you associate ready access to a motorway with the ability to drive on one whilst using the lanes correctly?