it amazes me why they have taken so long to realise that gas-guzzlers are rapidly going out of fashion :confused:

Ford posts US$8.7-billion second-quarter loss on asset writedowns - Yahoo! Canada Finance

Mark

Ford and GM have been in the brown stuff for a while. Having unsuitable cars/trucks is only a small part of the problem

They were in trouble when I left uni in 2001!

I think the penny has finally dropped for Americans, now fuel prices have shot up for them. Still roughly a third of what we pay, but when driving huge 4x4 it adds up - never mind, my heart bleeds for them.

Ford of America haven't made a profit for a while, afaik

Ford of America haven't made a profit for a while, afaik

Thats what I heard a few years back. It's european sales that keep them going.

They frequently return a profit on the finance deals too. So globally I dont think you can say they're in the ****.

Isn't the £8 bn of that from past restructuring that has only been counted now?

Ford to shift direction after $8.7bn loss [at Financial Times]

Says a bit about it here

This made me chuckle - BBC NEWS | Business | Carmaker GM unveils 2010 Camaro

Tell me where they're being fuel usage concious as claimed?

hilarious! "fuel effecient"? 6.2litre V8? :rofl: did i miss something here?

mark

Sod fuel economy,:eek: go drive a F150 Lightning. 380bhp, 450lb/ft 140 mph and around 5.8 to 60. Add in rear wheel drive, leaf springs and no esp etc. if you can drive this and not smile, you might need to contact a Medium or a Mortician.

Well I luv em

This made me chuckle - BBC NEWS | Business | Carmaker GM unveils 2010 Camaro

Tell me where they're being fuel usage concious as claimed?

I'd buy one! :drool:

Sod fuel economy,:eek: go drive a F150 Lightning. 380bhp, 450lb/ft 140 mph and around 5.8 to 60. Add in rear wheel drive, leaf springs and no esp etc. if you can drive this and not smile, you might need to contact a Medium or a Mortician.

Well I luv em

While on a passenger lap of the 'Ring we where overtaken by one of these! :eek: He got taken by a Cayenne in the next corner though.

While on a passenger lap of the 'Ring we where overtaken by one of these! :eek: He got taken by a Cayenne in the next corner though.

I have driven these (F150 lightning) and it sacred me silly, but in a good way.

:eek: oooh

I have driven these (F150 lightning) and it sacred me silly, but in a good way.

Does look like a giggle...

Does look like a giggle...

Oh yes, it was a giggle x a riot!!!! The Harley version has 4 seats and sounds better, but has a little less power. I still managed to spin one 90 degrees whilst leaving the showroom however………….oooops:O

More like the KA please

Sod fuel economy,:eek: go drive a F150 Lightning. 380bhp, 450lb/ft 140 mph and around 5.8 to 60. Add in rear wheel drive, leaf springs and no esp etc. if you can drive this and not smile, you might need to contact a Medium or a Mortician.

Well I luv em

Bet it rocks like the crappy suspension in my works mondy after hitting a speed bump.

2 miles later and still rocking forwards, backwards, forwards....

Bet it rocks like the crappy suspension in my works mondy after hitting a speed bump.

2 miles later and still rocking forwards, backwards, forwards....

Yes, but with it being so tall it’s a bit like being a Giraffe on a space hopper…………..except much, much quicker:thumbup:

Oh and the noise:rofl: (part of that would be my insane laughter)

Edited 26 July, 200817 yr by Lady Elanore

Oh and the noise:rofl: (part of that would be my insane laughter)

That'd be from the crappy US road set up. Some decent tyres and a geometry check should fix that

That'd be from the crappy US road set up. Some decent tyres and a geometry check should fix that

Nooooooooooooooooo, the noise is the 5.4V8 Supercharged wee beastie under the bonnet;):):)