interesting debate having worked on lots of skodas in the uk very rearly come across noisy heater fan motors please ellaborate may be an Indian issue? brake feel does vary between models ie discs all round feel and operate better maybe in India the brake pad material is different tyre type and compound and road surface different? the fact that the ABS is working indicates the shortest stopping distance should be achieved i could understand a complaint if the ABS was'nt working? engine noise. PD engines are noisier than some diesel engines ie common rail, but PD units are more efficient, have higher torque outputs, and are more economical so an increase in noise on idle isn't such a bad trade off

maybe all the issues that i'm facing is related only to the indian region

but the issues are only with the FABIA... as of now the A/c blower noise has stopped .. they have rectified the issue and put a new A/C motor....

i have asked them to make an engine dampner and i hope so they do it , cause that will reduce the engine noise when it is on neutral

and regarding the brakes.... the company workers them self say that the brakes are weak .... so period ( it comes from the horses mouth )

I don't think it will fit. You've got a 3-cylinder engine, while 1,9 is a 4-cyl. So I suppose the entire engine is different, hence the fittings...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/3033776849_12984db8e5_o.jpg

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i think these 2 are 1.4 TDI

so do u thing there is a possibility to get one for a 1.4 TDI 70 HP spec

Yes, but are you being told this by people who genuinely know about Fabias, aren't they relatively new to India? I've driven several Fabias and the brakes were fine. There were few if any rattles or squeaks and nothing wrong with the air con. If you don't like your Skoda, that's your choice, but it doesn't mean the car is rubbish it just means that it isn't the right car for you. Yes, you get the odd poor example from any manufacturer, but as manufacturer's go, Skoda is highly rated throughout Europe.

We are unable to comment on the Fabia in India as we have no idea how cars built there compare to the ones we drive. This forum thread is going nowhere!

From reading this thread (yes I am that bored :P ) - the 1.4 is not the problem, the brakes might be, but that would not be only on the 1.4.

In any case, I would get it sorted to the best of ability of the local dealership, and if you're still unhappy, get rid

Yes, but are you being told this by people who genuinely know about Fabias, aren't they relatively new to India? I've driven several Fabias and the brakes were fine. There were few if any rattles or squeaks and nothing wrong with the air con. If you don't like your Skoda, that's your choice, but it doesn't mean the car is rubbish it just means that it isn't the right car for you. Yes, you get the odd poor example from any manufacturer, but as manufacturer's go, Skoda is highly rated throughout Europe.

We are unable to comment on the Fabia in India as we have no idea how cars built there compare to the ones we drive. This forum thread is going nowhere!

Well said, I second that

Me too... or should I say that I third it???

Laura is Octavia II in Europe

guys i'm a good driver....i'm a kart racer... i may nuat be the best but i'm really good at driving.......

it took me sometime to get used to the brakes ... cuz the fabia brakes are very different compared to most of the cars that are in india...

and saint u may have a point that the fabia is not a heavy car and it does jump a lot

but when i drive the car i use a lot of gear breaking and i seem to be more at ease using gear braking on the fabia

in india skoda has model called the LAURA, i don't know what is it's international name... and that model had something called EBD..Electronic Braking Distribution... i had asked the workshop to add that to the car if possible but then they told me that the LAURA comes with a whole different electronic chip set..

Fourthed. This thread is well past its sell-by date. Please God, let this be the last post...

let this be the last post...

I second that.

I recomend issue 24 of the German version of Auto Motor und Sport if you (chasefreak) REALLY would like to know just how lousy the New Fabia performs compared to the other "super minis" on the market.. (irony OFF)

Brakes are rated as good as they get, and the car wins the "master test" when compared with the following cars: VW Polo, Toyota Yaris, Ford Fiesta, Mazda 2, Fiat Grande Punto, Peugeot 207, Seat Ibiza, Opel Corsa, Renault Clio and last but not least the Honda Jazz.

Huge Congratulations to the Fabia and Skoda!!

I was reading thru this thread and found that there is somebody who is sufferring like me. I did not have as bad experiance as chasefreak, but simillar problem exists with my fabia 1.4PD TDI. I almost dashed into onther car 2-3 times, but survived as breaks worked after a couple of seconds(Believe me, these "couble of seconds" are very very crucial in india). For sure the ABS/Breaks have some issues.

You may not see this problem in europe, because roads are much better than here. There are stricter traffic rules in europe, Here mostly, we drive like rally sport on normal roads.

- It mainly happens, when there is un-even surface and ABS tries to "catch the wheel"

- Most likely place for failure is a speed-breaker and patholes in india. and the car is not in gear(using clutch frequently). It may not have something to do with the speed, but if happens at high speed, then it is very likely that you will crash at high speeds.

- I am sure fabia was not tested enough in india as it is 95% imported from Germany and Czech.

- I have adapted my driving style to overcome the problem :-) Relying more on gears.

- The service engineers do not know what happens with modern day cars, they simply try to cover up, saying ABS works like that.

- I have already contacted skoda customer care, I will update after that.

Edited 14 December, 200817 yr by embguru

The Fabia isn't a sports car and is a small car designed to be driven on European roads - don't blame the car.........maybe if you want to buy modern European marques, you need to think about driving in a more civilised manner. It's not that the car's bad - it's bad driving.

European road safety have come a long way in the last sixty years and if India doesn't want to see a massive increase in fatalities, you will ultimately have to adopt Western driving attitudes and develop your infrastructure accordingly.

Don't forget, British roads are amongst the safest in Europe! ABS etc doesn't allow you to drive closer to the limit and brake in a shorter distance, all it is designed to do is to allow the driver to brake and steer at the same time. If you haven't left adequate safety margins, and keep a safe distance, ABS will not save you. You still need friction between your tyres and the road surface to stop - that's not nothing to do with poor Skoda cars, it is the laws of physics. You cannot defy the laws of physics, that's just how it is.

You cannot defy the laws of physics,

Well said , Scotty :P

I was reading thru this thread and found that there is somebody who is sufferring like me. I did not have as bad experiance as chasefreak, but simillar problem exists with my fabia 1.4PD TDI. I almost dashed into onther car 2-3 times, but survived as breaks worked after a couple of seconds(Believe me, these "couble of seconds" are very very crucial in india). For sure the ABS/Breaks have some issues.

You may not see this problem in europe, because roads are much better than here. There are stricter traffic rules in europe, Here mostly, we drive like rally sport on normal roads.

- It mainly happens, when there is un-even surface and ABS tries to "catch the wheel"

- Most likely place for failure is a speed-breaker and patholes in india. and the car is not in gear(using clutch frequently). It may not have something to do with the speed, but if happens at high speed, then it is very likely that you will crash at high speeds.

- I am sure fabia was not tested enough in india as it is 95% imported from Germany and Czech.

- I have adapted my driving style to overcome the problem :-) Relying more on gears.

- The service engineers do not know what happens with modern day cars, they simply try to cover up, saying ABS works like that.

- I have already contacted skoda customer care, I will update after that.

Duh......

If I drive my car into the sea and it sinks do you think I should get onto Skoda customer services with regards to fitting inflation devices and huge air bags.

If you drive like a prat you pay the prices, it isn't the car it's you who obviously can't drive as I said earlier in the thread. Learn to drive safely for the conditions, or don't drive at all.

If you can't be bothered to learn to drive safely then buy a Trabant.

Oh no, this thread is back! Please, someone tell those Indian drivers to stop whinging and drive more carefully!

Oh no, this thread is back! Please, someone tell those Indian drivers to stop whinging and drive more carefully!

geeze ...... it had to come down to this... anyways

my car has been taken back :REASON improper brake management

so all u guys/gals that think think we were just cribbing all this while ... i'm happy to know that the company with a lot of work and help from local dealers have confirmed there is a problem with the braking and this is not found on all the cars. it's just the bad one that i got

Improper brake management, ChaseFreak, sounds more like driver stupidity. Especially if it's an isolated problem.

i typed /: my car has been taken BACK... i will be given a new car

the car has been tested and a breaking fault was found in it

DO I HAVE TO BE MORE CLEAR......

# stop thinking that u know a lot of driving

Well, drive carefully in the new one then!

Well, drive carefully in the new one then!

In the spirit of Christmas guys lets close this thread and wish all Fabia owners whether they bought a good one or had to get a replacement a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Happy Fabia motoring to all in 2009.

For the second time I second that statement.

Well I will further add that if you can't drive safely for the conditions ( no rally driving on crowded roads, or expecting to stop from 50 in 20 ft ) then do as Mary and Joseph did.....and use a donkey.

ps..buy a shovel and clear up after you though.

I'm glad this thread is back:thumbup:

I enjoyed it!!!!

LOL

I say they should export the Favorit to India then.

Simple to fix if anything goes wrong.

I want to whinge to Skoda cause my Felly seats dont fit the Favorit. Oh wait theres a fix yes bodge it on!!

Indian roads are different so you should drive differently. ABS over here in Britain doesn't save idiots from crashing. I dont have ABS and I haven't crashed. But I have driven a car with ABS and felt the car almost slide on a sandy road, not even ABS or any driver aid can save you then.

Anyways glad you got your Fabia issue sorted please keep us updated. BTW I am Indian too but born and raised in Britain

Mistaken!

Nobody said that car saves you from all bad driving.

I agree, we do not follow all safety measures as europe has.

but at the same time, I expect that breaks work at lower speed, when there is a pathhole on the road. and this kinda fault is not expected from a VW group company

Several times, when I observed this braking issue, I was not driving more than 40 Kph. Most of the times, it was second gear.

I do not agree with chasefreak that fabia 1.4PDTDI is a failure, it is an excellent car.

Probably, the best hatch available in india right now.

I am very satisfied with it.