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Hi guys,

has anyone tried fitting one of these :

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Ebay intercoolers with the pipework exiting the same end??

Any before you say it, yes I know you can buy kit's off the shelf etc but I like to have a go at these things myself.

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it won't be very good as the air is not passed throu the intercooler so it won't cool. The standard one is probly bett then that.

it won't be very good as the air is not passed throu the intercooler so it won't cool. The standard one is probly bett then that.

Whilst I'd believe anything of Ebay... I doubt the makers of that intercooler are quite that brazen. It's a two pass. The inlet/outlet end tank is actually two tanks separated by a baffle.

If not, then Ebay's reputation remains the same. i.e. crap!

J.

Looks something like the seat one. That has the inlet and outlet on the same side

I'd imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to fit that one as has been said the SEAT sport intercooler has similar exits, you'd need to find out the dimensions and weld some brackets to the top to mount it to the slam panel, but other than that I'd imagine it would fit ok

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My most recent tuning background is Japanese stuff (i've got a 200sx with a Nissan Skyline engine in it) and alot of the after market intercooler kits are based around a 'cheap EBay' intercooler.

Just because it hasn't got a badge on it doesn't make it crap - i'd have though Skoda owners would have realised that one by now!! lol.

I'll buy one and see how much of a job it is to make fit and will post some pics of my progress up on here! :thumbup:

Sounds good.

I've got a universal intercooler for the Golf and on close inspection its pretty good quality.

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My most recent tuning background is Japanese stuff (i've got a 200sx with a Nissan Skyline engine in it) and alot of the after market intercooler kits are based around a 'cheap EBay' intercooler.

Just because it hasn't got a badge on it doesn't make it crap - i'd have though Skoda owners would have realised that one by now!! lol.

I'll buy one and see how much of a job it is to make fit and will post some pics of my progress up on here! :thumbup:

Two normal (!?) locations seem to be used for Fabia FMIC....

Forge and Allard hang down across the front of the radiator and aircon condensor.

Pro-alloy, AKA Jabbasport hung along the bottom of the bumper bar.

Though there's a draw to having both pipes exit in the vicinity of the existing pipework, space can be quite constricted in that area. Look at how the Forge I/Cs pipework runs towards the bottom of the available space and that gives a clue as to what else may get in the way. The Seat Sport FMIC uses a rather convoluted pipe to squirm back under the headlight area and into the engine bay.

The Allard approach is novel but requires surgery to the front of the car.

I think that Ebay 2 pass may be difficult to fit and get the pipework right. Though having written that, a couple alloy compound bends would likely do the job.

PS: If you do it, I'd like to see piccies and know how you mounted the MAP sensor.

J.

I have tought of this ic to, but have not find it for a god price.. whats the price on this? (cant reatch ebay at work)

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You can buy them on Ebay for just over £100.

I see what your saying with regards to the pipework and i'm guessing i'll have to get something made to take the map sensor but then that is the advantage of being a Design Engineer . . .

Even if i've gotta spend another £100 on the pipework etc it should still be worth the effort!

Watch this space. ;)

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I've just ordered one of these, have the tube ready to bent and some silicone hoses as per the Seat Sport fitting kit. Gonna mod the intercooler to have 2" or 2.5" inlet and outlet and then hope it fits in behind the bumper bar, what with it being 3" thick. Still, atleast I have another car to make it up on before pulling mine apart!

Alex

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I hand mine through the post a few days ago. I've spent a bit of time on the CAD knocking together a mount for the MAP sensor. I'll get a drawing of that put together and see if one of the boys will knock it out on the CNC machine in work.

Once I get rolling with it i'll start a bit of a project thread and post up full pic's etc.

Hi guys,

has anyone tried fitting one of these :

5537_1.JPG

Ebay intercoolers with the pipework exiting the same end??

Any before you say it, yes I know you can buy kit's off the shelf etc but I like to have a go at these things myself.

Hi Phil

Just a thought,can you confirm the inlet / exit tank is sealed in the middle ? hard to see from the image.

It is a twin pass intercooler, so yes it is sealed in the middle.

Phil, I am a machinist for an F1 team, so will be making the parts myself. What CAD package you using?

I also have access to relevent tube benders etc, so pipework is much cheaper than buying the bends preshaped!

Hopefully get mine through monday, so will have a look at mounting it onto the car then, you looked at this?

Alex

It is a twin pass intercooler, so yes it is sealed in the middle.

Phil, I am a machinist for an F1 team, so will be making the parts myself. What CAD package you using?

I also have access to relevent tube benders etc, so pipework is much cheaper than buying the bends preshaped!

Hopefully get mine through monday, so will have a look at mounting it onto the car then, you looked at this?

Alex

Don't suppose you'd be interested in producing a limited production run incorporating a MAP sensor mount? :D

It is a twin pass intercooler, so yes it is sealed in the middle.

Phil, I am a machinist for an F1 team, so will be making the parts myself. What CAD package you using?

I also have access to relevent tube benders etc, so pipework is much cheaper than buying the bends preshaped!

Hopefully get mine through monday, so will have a look at mounting it onto the car then, you looked at this?

Alex

i must be thick cos i dont understand that if the inlet is sealed and the outlet is sealed how does it work cos the basic pincple of an intercooler is air comes through the inlet gets cooled down through cold air goin over the intercooler then comes out the outlet so if there seal from each other how does that work?:confused:

The easiest way to describe this design is that it is basically an intercooler folded in half. The core is split down the middle so that air cannot pass straight from the inlet to the outlet without passing down the lenght of the core and then back up the other side of the centre plate to the outlet.

Alex

Don't suppose you'd be interested in producing a limited production run incorporating a MAP sensor mount? :D

I am looking into making one to fit properly and then I make make a few kits. Where in Bucks are you?

Alex

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Hi Phil

Just a thought,can you confirm the inlet / exit tank is sealed in the middle ? hard to see from the image.

Yeah - on the one that i've had through you can see heat marks on the end tanks where they have welded in the plate.

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It is a twin pass intercooler, so yes it is sealed in the middle.

Phil, I am a machinist for an F1 team, so will be making the parts myself. What CAD package you using?

I also have access to relevent tube benders etc, so pipework is much cheaper than buying the bends preshaped!

Hopefully get mine through monday, so will have a look at mounting it onto the car then, you looked at this?

Alex

Hi Alex,

Catia V5 - i've knocked two designs together. A fancy one which follows the profile of the MAP sensor and has a big radius cut out of the inside face for it to mate upto the pipework. The other one is basically a flat plate with a tube welded to it so that it stands the MAP sensor off so you can nut and bolt it in place.

I'll take some bitmap images when i've got a minute and post them up.

Not got as far as looking at mounting it in the car as the front panel is off my car at the moment. I bought my car with a bit of front end damage so I need to get the front end back together before I can actually get down to the fitting process.

I think getting a pipe to the top of the intercooler is going to be interesting but I think I might cut a hole through one of the legs on the bumper support and get a 2" pipe welded into it so that get's around that issue. I'd rather try and avoid this option but at least we have a 'plan b' lol.

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Bit of an update guys, spent a bit of time over the part two days getting the interooler mounted and piped up.

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Just gotta get the map sensor mount made next week and we're away! So far it's cost me about £200 but I did have to replace quite alot of the orginal pipework as mine was damaged due to the front end damage.

Will take some closer shots once i've got it all finished and happy with it.

Nice, I've got the map sensor bracket made for mine and got the pipe work, just got to get the bumper off and get the parts trial fitted to make the brackets. Looks like you are going to beat me to it!.

I've modified the intercooler to have 2" inlet and outlet rather than the silicone adaptors as it was cheaper to just buy 2" hose.

Alex

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Yeah that would have been ideal but I managed to find a 2.5" universal pipework kit on Ebay for £60 and the reducers were only £6 each.

Don't suppose you made more than one mount that you'd like to sell me? Just saves me getting a 'one-off' made.

Loving the Mecano bracketry! :rofl: :p

Keep up the good work gents. :thumbup:

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