the new car is fited with 17" wheels and Pirelli P-Zero tyre. They are bloody awful and ruin the ride of the car. they are noisy and harsh - i reckon they are a very hard compound. They will last for ever but dont suit the car.

I was disappointed not to get continentals as i have always had these and they are brilliant

any views / comments on P-zeros. The tech at my local dealer told me he used to have some on his car and they were awful.

help as its really taking the shine of the new car.

anyone one some free 17" wheels in exchange for 16" with continentals ?

Jonathan, My only experieince of P-0 was about 15 years ago on a Volve T5, when the car and tyres were both very new, the tyres were very low profile, very soft grippy rubber, but with front wheel drive I got through my first set of front tyres in 7,000 mils, about £200 per tyre. By the time I changd the car three years later the rubber compound had been changed due to so many complaint that they wear out quickly. Harder rubber meant harder ride and better wear. Still only about 10000 miles on a set of front tyres though.

Have you checked the pressures are correct as on very low profile this can make a great difference to ride quality.

I have Continental 40 profile on 18" on my Supeerb, and they are fine, a little noisy on a very coarse road surface. I would stick with it, wear them out as soon as you can and then change them for Michelins or Continentals.

Otherwise how is the car?

On my superb MK1 I had Michelan Primacys which help the ride quite a bit, but I went back to the standard Bridgestones as they wear less and as I do mostly motorway miles it didnt make a lot of difference.

If I was you, I would just get new tyres, you paid cash for a brand new car so you must be doing alright so blow the expense and get some news one!

It is only about £400 I would have thought, maybe £500 and then sell the old ones!

Just pay the man!

:P

I have the 17" trifids with Pirelli P-Zeros on mine and you are spot on about ruining the ride.

What was your reason for switching to the 17" tyres?

What was your reason for switching to the 17" tyres?

because i think the 18" are too big and made the ride even worse. I test drove and elegance and an SE and the SE was better. I figured the only reason for this is the smaller wheels. I dont know what tyres the SE had fitted though as i never thought to look at the time.

I know we've discussed this before but in all honesty, now I've got my car, I stand by my assertion that the ride is fine on 18'' wheels (mine is on Conti sport tyres).

I've taken 4 friends out in it so far and they all commented on how good the ride was (one compared it to his old Citroen Xantia!)

I'm sorry to hear that you aren't happy with yours in this regard, I hope you get it resolved quickly.

2Slo.

the new car is fited with 17" wheels and Pirelli P-Zero tyre.

JCB: Can you confirm the tyres fitted are just the plain P-Zero's and not Zero Nero's or Zero Rosso's.

According to Pirelli's website the Rosso's give 'unparallelled comfort in it's class' whereas there is no mention of comfort for the Zero's or Zero Nero's.

The tyre selector 'never' offers the Rosso's!!

http://www.pirelli.co.uk/web/fitment/selectSearchTyresForm.do?mySelectActived=tyreSizeVehicle&myEntryPoint=%2Ffitment%2FhomeCarFull&brandVehicle=336&modelVehicle=109461&versionVehicle=217245&tyreSize=225%2F45+R17

that's odd, by brand new Superb was delivered with Dunlops (yuk!)

I take delivery next week and mine has Conti Sport2 's.

Jonathan

Posted in this thread in error, sorry it should ahve been in your "tyres and Wheels" thread.

I think that the extra weight of the diesel cars means that there is perhaps a stronger anti roll bar at the front end. Certainly as I said previously reviews slated the 140 diesel's ride but said that the 170 was much better. Is the kerb weight of the 1.8 petrol close to the 140 diesel? Perhaps they have the same "softer" more bumpy suspension settings.

in response to the above.

well i am confused. as the 140 DSG is the same weight as the 170CR (well there is 3kg difference). here are the numbers

1.8TSi DSG = 1471 KG

140PD DSG = 1512 KG

170CR DSG = 1515 KG

I too have seen reviews that say the 140 rides differently but it makes no sense as its the same weight. mine is 41kg lighter so i guess the suspension could be different but i explared this when i was purchasing and the info i was given suggested it was no different. now i am confused as the 170CR i drove did ride differently.

Just back from the dealers and had a look at my Superb.Still has to be PDI`d but the tyre brand is Dunlop

Just had a look at the tyres on my superb and they are the Pirelli Zero Rosso's (17" on an SE 140). Been told by a colleague (who has them on a Volvo) that they seem very good but are rather pricey . . . .£200 a corner! Any recommendations?

.£200 a corner! Any recommendations?

I rather liked Yokohamas for their grip, but usually when you get improved grip you get lower mileage. Depends on the use they'll get really.

Ray.

its not grip but quietness I am after.

looked at two other SE models in showrooms and they all have P-Zero rossos. Looks like the 17" are pirelli and 18" are continentals

RE: replacement costs. I got quoted £459 for 4 continental sportcontact2 from kwik fit. i think this is a good price for the 17" 225/45/17.

Pirelle rossos are showing at £101 each here Tyre Details

this sounds good :

Primacy HP

Features:

* A summer tyre designed specifically for drivers of luxury performance and touring vehicles, the European-manufactured Michelin Pilot Primacy features outstanding performance and exceptional grip on wet surfaces and through deep standing water.

* Perfect handling on dry surfaces.

* Comfortable and quiet with excellent tread life..

* Long-lasting performance

We had Michelin Primacy's on my wife's Focus and they gripped well, quiet but did not wear well, only 27000 miles from a set of 4 (swapped back to front halfway through)

sounds good !! short life usually means soft rubber which means better ride and quieter ! i dont reckon 27k miles is bad for a set of tyres

Just check when getting 225-45-17, a lot of them are Extra Load (XL) which will give a choppy as hell ride if your car doesn't need the XL.

I put 225-45-17 Bridgestone Turanza ER300 on the front of the Vectra, they grip, handle and are quieter and more comfortable with the rubbish factory fit 215-50-17 Goodyear NCT5. Still have the NCT5 on the back, and they still crash and wobble all over the road.

sounds good !! short life usually means soft rubber which means better ride and quieter ! i dont reckon 27k miles is bad for a set of tyres

It is not so good for a full set, my fronts Bridgstone Turanzas lasted 26k, the rears Bridgstones lasted until 40k.

I put Michelan Primacys on the front at 26k and binned em with the rears at 40k 14k later, back to four Bridgstones now.

The Michelans were better and improved the ride though.

I've got a P6000 on mine and I'm gonna do all 4 because they seem to last, which on a Superb is a blessing.

this sounds good :

Primacy HP

Features:

* A summer tyre designed specifically for drivers of luxury performance and touring vehicles, the European-manufactured Michelin Pilot Primacy features outstanding performance and exceptional grip on wet surfaces and through deep standing water.

* Perfect handling on dry surfaces.

* Comfortable and quiet with excellent tread life..

* Long-lasting performance

My Octy II is equipped with Michelin Primacy's in 205/55/R16. I wholeheartedly recommend them for grip (excellent dry & wet grip), quietness and longevity.

Last week I rotated the tyres from front to back which evens the wear and ensures the rear tyres are never considerably older than the front tyres. I always aim to have the tyres with most tread on the back axle (on a front wheel drive car).

Kwik Fit often do good deals on two/four tyres ie. buy four tyres and get a 25% discount.

Alternatively, try BlackCircles or etyres.

Last week I rotated the tyres from front to back which evens the wear and ensures the rear tyres are never considerably older than the front tyres. I always aim to have the tyres with most tread on the back axle (on a front wheel drive car).

Those two statements, taken together, don't make sense to me?

Ray

i agree - front tyres wear faster so if you rotate the tyres you will edn up with the ones with the least tread on the back.

I have heard the theory of having more tread on the rear but i prefer more tread on the driven wheels. also if i hit standing water the front wheels need to clear more water away to maintain a straight line surely ?

Those two statements, taken together, don't make sense to me?

Ray

I should have clarified my earlier statement. From new, I'll run the front tyres to around half their tread depth, then switch the rear tyres to the front. Admittedly, at this time the rears (now front tyres) will have marginally more tread than the rear (originally front) tyres, however, the increased wear on the front (driven) axle will wear the tread quicker than on the rear tyres.

When the fronts are worn, I will have new tyres fitted, but they will be installed onto the rear axle, moving the now half worn rear tyres to the front axle. This way, there will be more tread on the back and the older rubber is being worn more quickly than had it been left on the rear axle from day one.

I hope this explanation makes some degree of sense.