Hello,

I know this has probably been done to death, and this isn't a short post but please read and advise of similar experiences / recommend solutions.

Last year I changed my suspension from a nasty cheap Jamex coilover kit (so hard it actually broke the top mounts), to Eibach springs and Koni FSD dampers. I was intially sceptical about the car being too high in terms of ride height, and the fat the Eibach didn't seem to list a spring specifically for the vRS although they do list for the 1.8T. You figure the difference?

Anyway, the retailer where I purchased from said Eibach said that the spring would fit and combined with the FSD's I should have the best of both worlds - comfort and handling.

Due to allowing the springs and dampers time to settle and with the onset of winter I wasn't properly able to drive the car. Naturally it was a big difference to the James Coilovers.

However, as the weather has improved so has my unhappiness. The car never feels composed, still wallowing like the standard suspension, and still not the last word in comfort. The car sits 5mm higher at the front than the rear, and is still too high for my liking. The ride is still not the last word in comfort (I am running 19" TSW alloys with 35 profile so appreciate these will not be as comfortable as 17's or 18's).

'Bouncy' and 'Kangaroo' and 'Sloppy' are words I think best describe the ride. I have subsequently found that Eibach don't make a spring specifically for the vRS and that many tuners who originally fitted this combination no longer do so because of poor owner feedback. Eibach themselves are blaming the retailer, and the retailer is saying that Eibach told them the springs would fit the car, even though I have discovered Eibach have never actually tested the springs, and have no data on them.

The retailer also say that the FSD's could well be the problem in that they have gone soft - something that is not uncommon.

Anyway, the retailer has asked me to take the car back to them so they can try and resolve the problems. In hindsight, having spent approx £800.00 including fitting, I wish I had gone for a KW I, II or Street Comfort Kit which I was considering at the time. The James coilover kit had to some extent put me off coilovers but I realise that this was a cheap load of c@*#!!!

I am asking the retailer to take back the springs and dampers as they shouldn't have been sold to me as not suitable for the vRS and want something else instead (specifically tailored for the vRS).

What can anyone recommend and have any other owners experienced the same problems as myself?

Phew!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

Cheers,

Darren

Been there done that and have the tee shirt.

Your right there a few threads about this problem, and if you search you will find them, but briefly,

Eibach do not make a spring for the Octy vRS, some retaillers will try and tell you that the Golf and Jetta ones fit, but they do not as the poundage is all wrong. I even spoke to Eibach after I had the problem, and they said they were not to be fitted to the Octy vRS.

KW2's are not advised for the Octy vRS either.

If you are going to keep the FSD's then Weitec do a spring to fit, and I am sure that Sarah at Awesome can advise you on the correct one, also if you can get your money back from the retailer, then AP coilovers are good value for the money.

I went through all this on my old Octy vRS and ended up with KW3's, but ask yourself one question, do you really need to spend nearly £1K on coilover suspension for the style of driving you do, as you will feel every bump in the road, and if you lower them too much, bang goes the sump.?

KW1's will do the job, as they have uprated shocks with height adjustable suspension, as will Weiltec, their sister company, but at a cheaper price.

Please also consider fitting a Neuspeed 28mm rear ARB, as these totally transform the handling of the Octy vRS.

Okay, my experience was with a golf mk3 vr6 but not dissimilar to what you're describing. IMHO, don't mess too much with the standard set up on these cars. I went through a set of coilovers, two sets of lowering springs and a set of new shocks. None of these resulted in a car that could be described as having the best of both worlds (comfort and handling). In the end (despite the high rise look that the mk3 VR6 had) I went back to the original springs with the new shocks.

The truth is that, when VAG (or whoever else makes the car) choose their suspension set up they balance the compromise between comfort and handling carefully. On the standard vRS they have already gone for a much firmer ride than the standard octavia (I personally htink it's pretty good). It's a simple matter of physics. You can't lower the car without having to stiffen the springs and you can't stiffen the spring without affecting the comfort. No amount of cash spent is going to come up with a fimer/lower ride which is also as comfortable as the original set up. All the marketing stuff you read claiming springs that lower and stiffen the ride without compromising comfort is just marketing fluff.

As an example, there's all sorts of hype about how the after market springs are better because they have features like progressive winding (distance between coils varies over the length of the spring) but I'm inclined to disbelieve a lot of this. Have a look at a set of these springs once they are on the car. You'll find that, once loaded, the close wound coils are actually compressed together to the point that they no perform as a spring at at all. You're just left with a shorter spring in the form of the active coils that remain. This has to be harsher in order to prevent the car from bottoming out.

I'm sure I'll cop a load of abuse for this post and there will be people who'll tell you that they've found the magic combination that brings the car to life. But, different people are happy with a different compromise between ride and handling. I sold my old golf coiliies because I thouight they were too harsh. The guy that bought them reckoned he wanted to lower/stiffen the car further. All I'm saying is that, fundamentally, you can't lower/stiffen a car's suspension without increasing the bumps and knocks that you'll feel coming back through the shocks.

From my own (very expensive and time consuming) experiments, I would advise keeping the original springs and trying the car out on some proper high quality adjustable shocks. Sure, you're not going to lower it this way but the damping/handling can be adjusted to your preference without having to mess around with tracking etc. I prefer this as even height adjustable coilovers don't allow you to set up spring characteristics similar to the original springs. With good adjustable shocks, it should be possible to start with a smilar set up to the stock shocks and then gradually tailor it from there. Plus, the car stays practical.

Anyway, sorry if that became a rant but I got fairly ****ed off with manufacturers claims when I was messing around with my Golf. I don't expect it will be very different with the vRS.

p.s. As a caveat, none of this applies for track day cars where the compromise between comfort and handling is very different.

Oh yeah, and Berreta's post makes sense. Changing item's like the rear arb are more likely to help as they should only come into play when the car is being driven hard and shouldn't have such a huge impact on everyday comfort and andling.

iep.

Oh yeah, and Berreta's post makes sense. Changing item's like the rear arb are more likely to help as they should only come into play when the car is being driven hard and shouldn't have such a huge impact on everyday comfort and andling.

iep.

I have been known to make sense now and again......................LOL

My experience was based on over seven years of owning a modded Octy vRS that was very well known on this forum (you can still see the advert in the for sale section), held the road like "****" to a blanket, and always made good perfomance figures, and still looked immaculate when I sold it to TrevorB33.

Beretta! you seem like the man to ask, i think im right in saying that you had fsd's and H&R springs once on your old vrs, how did you find the handling? I have this set up and sometimes i feel a little unsure about the handling.

I have a 22mm whiteline rear arb too, were you running a rear arb with the fsd's/springs, if so what sort of setting? Sorry mate about the questions just with over seven years of owning a vrs you know what works and what don't.

When i first had my fsd's i used them with the original springs, and looking back think this was better for crap british roads. I wonder how Weitec springs compare to h&r....?

how did you find the handling? I have this set up and sometimes i feel a little unsure about the handling.

What seems to be the problem G? I have this combo and love it. Car handles very well much better than stock.

Edited 28 March, 200917 yr by DGW
Quote fixed.

Yeah Lex we do have the same set up, i have superpro bushes too and lower s3 brace.

Yeah it handles much better then standard, but i find that the fsd's can feel a little strange like a bit floaty, i went into a corner this morning on the way to work which felt way to fast and thought **** im not gonna make it!!! but it just went round! :eek:

So i know it can handle but i cant get a way from the feeling that it dont feel like it if you get my piont.

I've never had the rear arb on the 3rd setting and im going to try this tomorrow see how it feels, it may be an alignment issue, but i had it checked recently and all was ok.

Beretta! you seem like the man to ask, i think im right in saying that you had fsd's and H&R springs once on your old vrs, how did you find the handling? I have this set up and sometimes i feel a little unsure about the handling.

I have a 22mm whiteline rear arb too, were you running a rear arb with the fsd's/springs, if so what sort of setting? Sorry mate about the questions just with over seven years of owning a vrs you know what works and what don't.

When i first had my fsd's i used them with the original springs, and looking back think this was better for crap british roads. I wonder how Weitec springs compare to h&r....?

I never had FSD's with H&R's. I had:-

Eibach springs with OEM shocks and Neuspeed 28 mm rear arb = Rubbish handing.

THEN

Eibach springs with FSD's and 28 mm Neuspeed rea arb = Rubbish handling.

THEN

KW3's with Neuspeed 28mm rear arb = Perfection.

The problem was the Eibach springs, and Eibach confirmed to me that they should never be fitted to the Mk1 Octy vRS as they are totally the wrong poundage for the car, but like some others I listened to the retailer, but I have to say that the retailer sorted out the problem once they were made aware of the statement by Eibach.

The Neuspeed 28mm rear arb was always on the middle setting of the three.

Weitec are made by the siter company of KW, so are very good.

Also had Powerflex bushes to wishbones, dog mount etc.

Have a look in the Skoda Octavia For Sale section, around Nov 2008, there is the advert for the car, and what was done to it when I sold it to TrevorB33.

When i first had my fsd's i used them with the original springs, and looking back think this was better for crap british roads. I wonder how Weitec springs compare to h&r....?

I had the Weitec springs fitted with the standard shocks, but I found the standard shocks not damped enough. I looked at buying FSD's, but I was told they weren't designed to be used with springs that lowered the car 30mm+ & the Weitec lowers the car 30mm if not slightly more.

So I went for Koni adjustable shocks front & rear with the Weitec springs & I find them spot on, with the ride being not much harsher than my dads 06 BMW 325Ci sport.

Since the rears can't be adjusted while fitted on the car, I preset the rears before fitting to a medium setting & I adjust the fronts to the type of driving I will be doing, usually to a med setting, unless I know I'm doing some brisk driving without my daughter in the car, then I set them to the firmest.

I have got a Autotech 28mm adjustable rear ARB fitted too.

It's also essential to get a proper 4 wheel alignment after changing the suspension.

You get what you pay for with suspension. Kits (shocks/springs) are never ever as good as a decent set of coilovers (KW, Weitec, Koni, FK) in my experience.

My mistake Beretta!

That's what i thought the H&R only lower by 15mm- 20mm so more suited for the fsd's.

Changed my rear anti roll bar setting this morning on to 3rd hole, and noticed that one side is very close to the bottom of where the spring sits! the other is fine.

Why would this be? due to twisting?

My mistake Beretta!

That's what i thought the H&R only lower by 15mm- 20mm so more suited for the fsd's.

Changed my rear anti roll bar setting this morning on to 3rd hole, and noticed that one side is very close to the bottom of where the spring sits! the other is fine.

Why would this be? due to twisting?

It may be due to the clamps not being even so it's supported slightly differently on the rear beam.Measure the distance from the end of each clamp the see if they are equal lenght apart.

I know mine sits slightly off like yours.

Beretta,

Advice is very much appreciated. At times I been thinking - is it just me being awkward or is there truly something wrong with the handling of the car?

I have gone back to the retailer (Motoscope) and suggested replacing the Eibach springs and the Koni FSD's for either KW I, III or Weitec coilover kit, along with Neuspeed / Whiteline rear ARB, SuperPRO wishbone and dogbone bushes. I have put it to them that the combination of Eibach springs and FSD's should never have been fitted to the car and that these should be credited against KW / Weitec replacement.

I am mighty unhappy with Eibach as they say that it is down to the retailer, and that if anything happened to the car as a result of the springs Eibach would not be responsible. The retailer say they checked with Eibach (and I don't doubt them as they seem a good bunch) about fitment before suppling / fitting.

Spoke to Awesome who said they stopped fitting the Eibach / FSD combination due to bad feedback from owners. It's a bad situation where Eibach will allow retailers to supply and fit their springs to Octavia vRS when they haven't tested them on the car and won't subsequently honour any claims of damage caused by the springs. To my mind they should simply refuse to supply and say not suitable at all.

Will keep you / other vRS owners posted of developments.

Cheers,

Darren

Beretta! you seem like the man to ask, i think im right in saying that you had fsd's and H&R springs once on your old vrs, how did you find the handling? I have this set up and sometimes i feel a little unsure about the handling.

I have a 22mm whiteline rear arb too, were you running a rear arb with the fsd's/springs, if so what sort of setting? Sorry mate about the questions just with over seven years of owning a vrs you know what works and what don't.

When i first had my fsd's i used them with the original springs, and looking back think this was better for crap british roads. I wonder how Weitec springs compare to h&r....?

The only thing i don't like about the FSD/H&R set up is sometimes when your on a smooth road(mainly motorways) if you hit a dip they feel a little hard.

I think you may feel a little unsure about your set up because of the way the FSD's work.They stiffer up if they don't feel any resistance on the road,so when it comes to a dip they feel a little harder then normal.

They work best when pushing hard.

I would make sure your alignment is spot on as i had mine done 3 times before i was happy.Mine was pulling way to much to the left even on hard acceleration but now it is spot on and i love the way it drives.Apart from having problems with knacked ARB links i wouldn't change it unless i was using the car for more track days.

What tyres are you running as they make such a big difference.

Beretta,

Advice is very much appreciated. At times I been thinking - is it just me being awkward or is there truly something wrong with the handling of the car?

I have gone back to the retailer (Motoscope) and suggested replacing the Eibach springs and the Koni FSD's for either KW I, III or Weitec coilover kit, along with Neuspeed / Whiteline rear ARB, SuperPRO wishbone and dogbone bushes. I have put it to them that the combination of Eibach springs and FSD's should never have been fitted to the car and that these should be credited against KW / Weitec replacement.

I am mighty unhappy with Eibach as they say that it is down to the retailer, and that if anything happened to the car as a result of the springs Eibach would not be responsible. The retailer say they checked with Eibach (and I don't doubt them as they seem a good bunch) about fitment before suppling / fitting.

Spoke to Awesome who said they stopped fitting the Eibach / FSD combination due to bad feedback from owners. It's a bad situation where Eibach will allow retailers to supply and fit their springs to Octavia vRS when they haven't tested them on the car and won't subsequently honour any claims of damage caused by the springs. To my mind they should simply refuse to supply and say not suitable at all.

Will keep you / other vRS owners posted of developments.

Cheers,

Darren

If i was you i would ask 'Motorscope' to change the Eibach springs to H&R but your not willing to pay for any labour charges and would like your car alignment done as well.

If they refuse till them you would like a full refund including all labour costs and go elsewhere.

Where are you based as it may be possible to test a members car who has the FSD/H&R set up 1st.

Hello Jaymd,

I live near Durham. A test / comparison would be a good idea. With regards to money for setup etc, then I don't see why a credit can't be given as the combination fitted to the car is all wrong. In hindsight I wish I had just gone for the KW street comfort kit, but like I said, my perception of coilovers had been skewed by that horrible Jamex c#@* I had fitted. Needless to say I never went back to where I bought that!!!

The bizarre thing is Eibach springs are normally raved about. Fabia owners seem to have no problems at all with them.

Cheers,

Darren

Folks,

Like Berreta I to had tried numerous Suspension kits and settings. I went originally for the FSD's and standard springs. Not a bad setup really but the car height was a little high for me and the original springs were tired. So then fiited Eibachs on the FSD's exactley the same setup as Gandalf. These were not listed for the VRS , but the Golf Estate and Bora but shop told me they are ok. What a nightmare combination at best I would say they felt unsure footed and at worst I would say dam right dangerous. I was cornering round a roundabout once and had to brake and the car went sideways both ways and I had to fight it to control it.(no I was not speeding either). After lengthy discussions and found Berretas comments, that was enough for me to get shot of the Eibachs, and replace with the H&Rs. These are a very good combination and are extremley well matched as a lot of members here will tell you. They are the favorite none coilover setup by far for the VRS and are properly listed as VRS springs. They will lower your car approx 15mm only. The FSD's actually improve the more you push the cars performance.

I would still have them on my car today if is was not for me wanting more control over the suspension set up and to be able to change the ride height, so fitted coilovers. This I would not recomend if you want standard comfort. I don't mind the harsher set up that comes with coilovers and with the RARB have a very good set up that does what I want it to.

H&R's maybe to best option for you.

P.S heard some horror storys with Jamex also and especially the coilover versions (that do not have the correct antiroll bar link bracket)

The only thing i don't like about the FSD/H&R set up is sometimes when your on a smooth road(mainly motorways) if you hit a dip they feel a little hard.

I think you may feel a little unsure about your set up because of the way the FSD's work.They stiffer up if they don't feel any resistance on the road,so when it comes to a dip they feel a little harder then normal.

They work best when pushing hard.

I would make sure your alignment is spot on as i had mine done 3 times before i was happy.Mine was pulling way to much to the left even on hard acceleration but now it is spot on and i love the way it drives.Apart from having problems with knacked ARB links i wouldn't change it unless i was using the car for more track days.

What tyres are you running as they make such a big difference.

Thanks mate for your replys, yeah quite odd feeling sometimes with the fsd's i should be use to them by now, been on for a year soon!

No doubt they work though, like you say the harder you push the car the stiffer they get. Yeah i find they can be very hard at times mostly at slower speeds around town roads.

Alignment is ok all within spec, but im running slight toe out but car runs straight, steering wheel is dead straight and it does'nt pull to one side. I've got Verdestein ultracs up front which seem like a good tyre and falkens 452's on the back.

Beretta,

Advice is very much appreciated. At times I been thinking - is it just me being awkward or is there truly something wrong with the handling of the car?

I have gone back to the retailer (Motoscope) and suggested replacing the Eibach springs and the Koni FSD's for either KW I, III or Weitec coilover kit, along with Neuspeed / Whiteline rear ARB, SuperPRO wishbone and dogbone bushes. I have put it to them that the combination of Eibach springs and FSD's should never have been fitted to the car and that these should be credited against KW / Weitec replacement.

I am mighty unhappy with Eibach as they say that it is down to the retailer, and that if anything happened to the car as a result of the springs Eibach would not be responsible. The retailer say they checked with Eibach (and I don't doubt them as they seem a good bunch) about fitment before suppling / fitting.

Spoke to Awesome who said they stopped fitting the Eibach / FSD combination due to bad feedback from owners. It's a bad situation where Eibach will allow retailers to supply and fit their springs to Octavia vRS when they haven't tested them on the car and won't subsequently honour any claims of damage caused by the springs. To my mind they should simply refuse to supply and say not suitable at all.

Will keep you / other vRS owners posted of developments.

Cheers,

Darren

I think its a bit harsh to have a go at Eibach for supplying what a retailer orders, as they are only sending what was ordered, and a phone call to Eibach would have stopped the problem happening.

Eibach clearly state the cars that their springs are made for on their web site, and nowhere do they state that there is one for the Octy vRS, I think its more a case of the retailer having a small amount of knowledge of the Octy vRS and thinking that as its based on the Golf platform then anything for a Golf/Jetta will fit, but as we know from experience, they are totally different with the poundage requirements.

I too went along with a retailers suggestion and had them fitted, and to be fair to the retailer concerned ( a site sponsor), as soon as it was established from Eibach that they should never be fitted to an Octy vRS the retailer, did everything they could, and a lot more to help me resolve the problem, and I went to KW3's.

Fabia owners do rave about Eibach springs, but that is because they are a specific spring made for that car.

There is no such thing as the perfect set up, end of.

If you want the car to handle and I mean handle, comfort goes out the window and vis versa.

Cheap set ups give you the worst of both worlds. Your car will not handle and it will feel uncomfortable. :thumbdwn:

Beretta,

On the first occasion I spoke to Eibach they told me that although they don't make a specific spring for the vRS they will not stop retailers fitting them to vRS'. They say that if the retailer can get them to fit then that is up to them, and the onus is on the retailer to have tested them.

The second time I spoke to Eibach they told me that if any damage was caused to the vehicle due to the fitment of their springs they would not be liable and that I would have to go back to the retailer.

In my case the retailer is adamant that they spoke to Eibach who told them that the springs in question were for an Octavia 1.8T. Now I thought that the only 1.8T Octavia Mark I was a vRS, yet Eibach say they don't make any specific springs for the vRS.

Confused? :confused: :confused: :confused: I am.

I am unhappy with Eibach as they have just said nothing to do with us, see the retailer. rather than saying well, if they can get them to fit they must be okay they should just say not recommended - end of story, no confusion, everyone knows where they stand.

As it stands I have a poor handling car through no fault of my own, and having spent approx £800.00, I am not a happy chappy :mad:

The car gives me no confidence, its bouncy, vague, floaty, hard ride (even though I am running 19's and I was told FSD's were supposed to be softer during normal driving), car sits too high, and its making some horrible creaks and squeaks (this could be down to bushes. In short it's c@#*!!! and as I said, I just don't have any confidence in the current setup and when you really want to push it you need to have condfidence in the car.

Anyway, I am still waiting for the retailer to reply to my request for a full credit for the Eibach's and FSD's and to replace with springs and dampers specifically made for the vRS. I think in view of other posts and comments Weitec Hicon TX coilovers are the way to go. Do you or anyone else know if 18282002 is rthe correct part number?

At the end of the day as customers we explain what it is we are looking for and relay on the advice and guidance of reputable retailers and manufacturers to give us what we want. I appreciate that sometime genuine mistakes are made, but that when they are these should be quickly rectified and we as customers should not be made to feel like we are asking for something out of the ordinary.

I will keep you and other posted on developments.

With regards to some peoples comments about previous posts not being read before asking similar questions I take the point. In this instance I did read sveral of the previous posts regarding Eibach springs but specifically wanted to ask about Eibach springs and FSD dampers, other vRS owners experiences and recommendations as to what to replace them with. It has been very helpful to get others views / opinions.

Sometimes previous posts don't give you exactly the information you require.

Cheers,

Darren

If the retailer were on the ball they should have asked Eibach specifically if the springs fitted the vRS and not just a 1.8T Octavia as they made the Mk1 Octavia with a 150bhp variant of the engine (e.g. in the Octavia 4x4 turbo).

I hope the retailer is good enough to try and sort out a refund or replacement for you.

No the 150bhp Octy is also a 1.8T, not just the 180 bhp Octy 1.8 vRS.

The problem will always lie between Eibach and the retailer and you will always be pig in the middle, its then that a good retailer comes into their own, and assists you to sort out their problem.

Eibach will quite rightly stand behind their advert which clearly does not state Octavia VRS, so the retailer is the one to go after as they fitted the wrong spring, not Eibach, and who's to say that the retailer even asked Eibach before ordering the incorrect springs?

As before I had a similar problem with mine, and the retailer, who is a site sponsor, sorted it out straight away, and I have to praise them.

Just stand your ground with the retailer, refer them to the Eibach web site and ask them to show you where it says Octavia vRS anywhere in the advert for springs, its their mistake and they should recify it.

In my case the retailer is adamant that they spoke to Eibach who told them that the springs in question were for an Octavia 1.8T. Now I thought that the only 1.8T Octavia Mark I was a vRS, yet Eibach say they don't make any specific springs for the vRS.

Confused? :confused: :confused: :confused: I am.

I think there lies the problem (as mentioned before i finnished posting this). The 1.8T is not the VRS. This suspension is for a standard 1.8T Octavia. Although the VRS is a 1.8T engine unless it quotes RS(some manufactors quote this) or VRS then they are not talking about the same car. The 1.8T sit's higher than the VRS which is why it raised your car when fitted.

The car gives me no confidence, its bouncy, vague, floaty, hard ride (even though I am running 19's and I was told FSD's were supposed to be softer during normal driving), car sits too high, and its making some horrible creaks and squeaks (this could be down to bushes. In short it's c@#*!!! and as I said, I just don't have any confidence in the current setup and when you really want to push it you need to have condfidence in the car.

This is not the FSD's causing this, but those c**p Eibach that are not meant for the car. If you get rid of those and fit H&R's to the FSD's You may be better off just buying those at around £170 to get your car in order and then claim for the Eibach's or get the supplier to swap?

Anyway, I am still waiting for the retailer to reply to my request for a full credit for the Eibach's and FSD's and to replace with springs and dampers specifically made for the vRS. I think in view of other posts and comments are the way to go. Do you or anyone else know if 18282002 is rthe correct part number?

FSD's are made for the VRS, just the Eibach's arent.

You have a choice with Weitecs(both are Weitec approved to fit the VRS). The Hicon GT is what most folks have for the VRS, same as mine. Product code: 13282002 . These give you height adjustable and fixed damping rates Approx (£500).

example here:

Weitec / HICON GT Coilover Kits / Skoda Octavia; (1U) 2WD; Saloon, Estate (Front Axle weight Upto -1000) 02/97- / Euro Performance Car Parts

Weitec Hicon TX coilovers 18282002 give height adjustable plus adjustable damping rates. (approx £700)

Example here

Weitec / HICON TX Coilover Kits / Skoda Octavia; (1U) 2WD; Saloon, Estate (Front Axle Weight upto -1000kg) 02/97- / Euro Performance Car Parts

With regards to some peoples comments about previous posts not being read before asking similar questions I take the point. In this instance I did read sveral of the previous posts regarding Eibach springs but specifically wanted to ask about Eibach springs and FSD dampers, other vRS owners experiences and recommendations as to what to replace them with. It has been very helpful to get others views / opinions.

Sometimes previous posts don't give you exactly the information you require.

Some posts do go off the point sometimes, but this advise i gave you was searching myself in less than 5 min on various posts on the forum. Eibach are c**p no matter if they are fiited with FSD's or to standard shocks for the VRS.

The subject is widely discussed and to the point, but it is no problem reiterating it.

Cheers,

Mark.