Hi

As has been said on here

The Octavia did come in 1.8T engines , that are not vRS

The vRS set up is different to the other 1.8T engine`d Skoda`s

I came accross this issue when I worked for another tuning company

When I came to Awesome , I was a tad upset when we did fit them to a vRS , but then that was when Awesome finally agree`d that this was not a good set up on the vRS

There are only 1 company to date that I have come accross that do a specific spring set for the vRS and that is H&R

I have asked many companies if they would consider this set up , and as of yet have not found one that say`s yes

We get quite a few calls in regards springs for this car , and it is a shame , but we do even get some people go elsewhere as we do not give the answer that they want

I am sorry , and I am sure that many people will read this post and may even decide that this is wrong information

But , please be assured that Eibach are a very good quality brand

The assurance from Eibach and warranty will only stand on parts that they are guarantee`d to fit

All you have to do is read a few threads to determin that people are determined to fit parts not specific to their cars....such as LCR splitters......so it has to be determined that any for of warranty will only stand for parts they reccomend that they fit

I myself would go back to where you had them fitted , as I am sure this would stand with their advise rather than Eibach

I am sorry to hear that you are having issues with this

Sarah

A big to all who have posted on this thread so far.

Some very helpful advice as I didn't know that there was another 1.8T Octavia (the 150bhp version). From previous conversations with the retailer they didn't know that either.

Also agree that Eibach have a very good reputation and that they are often recommended or praised for quality and performance - when fitted to the correct vehicle!!!

In hindsight I should have maybe checked myself that Eibach made a specific spring for the vRS. But in going to a reputable retailer I thought I would be safe after the Jamex coilover debacle (that particular retailer shall not be allowed to disgrace the pages of this forum :mad:)

It has only been with my continued unhappiness about the handling and comfort, or rather lack of, that prompted me to start looking into other owners experiences of Eibach springs and Koni FSD's. The only downside is that I have wasted a few months in waiting for the new springs and dampers to bed in along with winter meaning I couldn't really drive the car properly. A lack of internet connection hasn't helped as I had forgotton how valuable a resource for all things vRS Briskoda was.

From what people have said the retailer should have realised that the vRS is not the only 1.8T model Octavia. I am hoping they will be reasonable and see that the springs are totally unsuitable for the car and should never have been fitted, and that together the Eibachs and FSD's should not have been supplied and fitted.

I will take a copy of the posts so far to back up my claims for a complete refund of both dampers and springs and replacement with a Weitec HICON TX coilover kit. As far as I am concerned, and I get the impression from others they should not refuse this, as the springs and dampers supplied together as a package are unsuitable for the Mark I Octavia vRS.

If anyone has anymore helpful advice then please feel free to post.

Cheers,

Darren

Hi

I am sorry , and I am sure that many people will read this post and may even decide that this is wrong information

But , please be assured that Eibach are a very good quality brand

Sarah, I believe that most people here would also agree with you regarding Eibach is a quality brand, as I have used them on other cars with great success. They just don't work with the VRS, and as Eibach do not make then to fit the VRS, the quality is about the performance of the springs fitted to this model by garages / retailers that have either been miss informed or still want to sell them knowing this information.

Good luck with your claim Darren.

well!

ur are right H&R PART NUMBER 29124-1 from www.balancemotorsport.co.uk are the only company who list spings just for the vrs octavia. Ever other spring kit including weitec dont list the vrs seprately. So l ordered the H&R spring kit to be safe. l did not want to put weitec on just incase it was not right then strip them off and spend again to fix that NO WAY. Also next will be white line rarb from same company. hopefuly problem sovled. l will post reply soon with results.

Edited 1 April, 200917 yr by bob bently

Eibach are far from crap, but if you (through no fault of your own) put the wrong springs on your car it'll most probably be all to ****. I was asking about FSD dampers recently and the response I got was...less than complimentary...

Des is so right; you can't have über handling and über comfort, but you can get a better than standard compromise of the two

Fsd's less then complimentary? Tell me more?

there is 1 other company i have found that list springs specifically for the vrs,which lower by 20mm,which is the same as h+r,they are made by cobra,quite a bit cheaper than h+r too,but dont know what the quality is like,but come with a 5 year guarantee,so i spose cant be too bad,i dont know if anyone has had any fitted?

Going to retailer on Saturday and will be armed with copies of posts from this and other threads if they need further evidence that Eibach + FSD's + Octavia vRS = A bigger mismatch than Brian Clough (bloody brilliant and knew it too) and Leeds United

I think the moral of the story is anyone thinking of modifying the suspension on their vRS, before they even think about buying springs or dampers, should search posts on the forums and if still in any doubt ask for advice and the experience of others - even at the risk of some moaning about previous posts :P:P:P

Seriously though, fantastic advice from owners and people working at tuning establishments on my own thread which have been enlightning, entertaining and helpful.

The saga continues...update on Saturday.

Cheers,

Darren:thumbup:

Any update on this?

Hi guys,

You are very experienced at modifying your Octys vRS. I have been having mine for about 2 years now. I have done some upgades/upgrades but not as much as you.

My problems on Octy are original dampers. I have had a lower and upper stress bars fitted as well as flat bar in March and Arpirl this year. Two years ago I had a replacement of two fron dampers. Since the car was service at Skoda Dealer last week I have driving problems. The car is a bit bouncy, is not stiff, if you let the steering wheel go the steering wheel is wobbly and the car goes sligthly left right. I was told that this is the problem with the dampers or the way they co-operate with the bars.

I would like to upgrade the original dampers but stick to the springs.

I was recommened Eibach, KW, Koni, Spax or Bilstein dampers. I am not really technical on this. I would appeciate your suggestions.

Many thanks

Hiya Yaro.

I presume that by "stress bars" you mean what we would call "strut braces"; that is rigid bars which connect the tops of the front strut towers and the pivots on the wishbones? If so, then anyone who claimed that those will affect your springs or dampers and make the car "bouncy", or make it pull sideways is talking out of their bottom!!

You also mention a new "flat bar"; I think we'd call this an "anti-roll bar", which stiffens the car's suspension when cornering and the one wheel moves up and the other one down relative to their positions when going straight ahead.

None of this work should make the car feel different in a straight line, unless you've got it so stiff that, when you hit a bump in the road with one front wheel, it tries to lift the other one.

If this is the case, then new dampers aren't going to help I'm afraid.

If you want to address the usual Octavia 1 problem (irrespective of model) of being under-damped, without changing springs, then neither Eibach (spring maker) or K&W (racing style coil-over replacement suspension units) will be any use to you. Most people will recommend Koni FSD dampers I think.

If the car is pulling sideways, that suggests that the suspension geometry is wrong, and/or the chassis is twisted. You'll need to have a full geometry/alignment check to confirm what the problem is in more detail, but I'd suspect the problem is things being pulled out of line by misinstallation of the strut braces.

Many thanks for the reply.I have had a four wheel alignment done a few days ago. The garage uses a Hunter one. All is spot on. Again I do not know what to think. The car is not driving as it used to. It does not absorb the hamp and holes very well

Do you have the data sheet from the alignment check? If so, post it in the sticky on chassis alignment in general motoring and performance, and see what comments that produces.

Hello,

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

It's taken bloody ages and plenty of arguing and threatening but Eibach and Koni have both seen sense on the issue. Both the FSD's and the springs have been returned and boy, am I glad to see the back of them. To say they have been utter s#@&e!!!! would be a massive understatement.

I now have a full Eibach pro-street coilover kit (which is specifically for the Octavia vRS I), and what a transformation :D

The car actually feels like it goes where you want it to, the steering feels tight, and I have lost the horrible bouncy / floating feel to the ride. Even my wife is happy with the ride quality as the rear is rubbing and she and my daughter are not being thrown around. Roundabouts can now be taken at a decent pace and the car just grips and goes. :D

As you can tell I am very happy at the moment. Time will tell as to how the kit continues to perform as it beds in (I will post updates on the forum). I will be going back to Motoscope to get the ride height lowered as there have been no issues with rubbing thus far. In terms of height and stiffness they setup the car to handle but retain an element of comfort. It was decided to set the ride height the same as it was with the Koni and Eibach springs, see if it was okay (no rubbing), then lower if no problems (which there aren't).

I hope my experience, albeit a very painful and frustrating one, can be of use to other members in avoiding bad advice (from both Koni and Eibach in my case) and certain other retailers who seem to think that just because something can be made to fit, it can be used.

I've got to say a BIG thank you to Motoscope :thumbup: because without their help and understanding I would have been left arguing the toss with both Eibach and Koni (who both initially blamed the retailer). For many months each has maintained that the equipment initially supplied was okay to use with my vRS. It has only been with the threat of taking matters further that both have seen sense. As I mentioned at the beginning of the post, both have agreed to fully refund Motoscope for the springs and dampers, and the supply and fitment of the Eibach pro-street coilover kit hasn't cost me any addtional monies.

Now that it seems that the handling is sorted I think chip change may be in the offing - just got to justify it to my wife. Any suggestions???

Cheers,

Darren

Glad you got it sorted

Well done good result.......

Agree`d good result

I do think the majority of the issues could be with the Eibach`s not being specific

Sorry you had the issues , but glad you managed to get them sorted

Sarah