Dont you just hate it when other road users think they have more of a right than others (fair enough if they have blue lights:rofl:).

Just driving along a 50 limit dual carrageway, nothing behind me and approaching a roundabout. I check mirror, nothing behind for quite some distance, signal to move over and while doing it there is a bloke who is clearly compensating for something:

flies up my backside flashing his lights at me intimidating me to move over out of his way.

As Im turning right at the roundabout Im in the righthand lane, he then moves infront of me in the left hand lane and cuts into my lane. Looking across I can see him hurling abuse at me.

I then proceed right at the roundabout, and he goes left and does a U-turn - clearly he was wanting a confrontation.

I managed to lose him by using my "local knowledge" and popping into some side streets but felt pretty shaken up because Im only a small bloke and not in the best of fitness so I wouldnt have stood a chance against him - had I have had a few mates in the car I wouldnt have hessitated to point out the error of his ways:P

Another whine is that there is a stretch that is 30mph on this 50mph road while there are some road works, I sit there like a good catholic boy on the 30mph for the full distance while idiots fly by still doing 50 asif they own the road, yet they get frustrated at me when I need to move into their lane to allow traffic on from the slip road.

Does anyone else get annoyed that the roads are nigh on full with people that are in a hurry all the time and generally idiots?

Grr.

Mike

Yeah I sometimes get this like on a new dual carriageway which recently been built, when the roadworks were on it was a 30mph and I would slow down for them and stick to 30 through thr works, then I would have peeps coming up behind me doing 50 and sticking on my tail, flashing lights, shaking fists until the road became two lanes again, then they would fly past and shout things at me.

In another incident not unlike yours SWMBO was followed by someboy in a Zafira because she was driving within the law, the bloke did not like it and started to get annoyed and follow her every step, local her knowledge came in handy and she managed to shake him off!

I can't stand people like what you have described and I'm not a big guy either so would avoid any confrentation!

Just driving along a 50 limit dual carrageway, nothing behind me and approaching a roundabout. I check mirror, nothing behind for quite some distance, signal to move over and while doing it there is a bloke who is clearly compensating for something:

flies up my backside flashing his lights at me intimidating me to move over out of his way.

What do you think caused him to get so upset?

Chris

I agree. In my experience (twice in the last week, let alone before that) it's the drivers who are in the wrong that give the worst response. Both times it was at a roundabout when the "nice person" beside me decides to wander across into my lane, which are clearly marked, and I sound my horn so that I don;t have to move into the car that's next to me on the other side. I then get verbal and finger abuse, and the second even went to swerve into me having got off the roundabout! WTF is their problem.

If I had been in the wrong, then fair enough but I woudn't get angry about it.

Sorry, I was forgetting - I was in the wrong for being in their way when they needed that piece of tarmac that I was locating!

Any sort of intimadation like that i'd just get there reg number and call the cops. They only need your witness statement and they will get a strike against the plate. If they contunue to do that sort of thing they can get their car impounded.

What do you think caused him to get so upset?

Chris

Not sure to be honest, I gave enough indication of me moving into the lane so I was getting out of his way anyway, just not as fast as he would have liked me to have.

Any sort of intimadation like that i'd just get there reg number and call the cops. They only need your witness statement and they will get a strike against the plate. If they contunue to do that sort of thing they can get their car impounded.

I would have done, but to be honest I was just wanting to get away from the bloke so didnt have time to catch the plate

Oh well, I suppose I can be lucky he didnt plough into me

Not sure to be honest, I gave enough indication of me moving into the lane so I was getting out of his way anyway, just not as fast as he would have liked me to have.

Apologies if I misinterpreted what you wrote....

Just driving along a 50 limit dual carrageway, nothing behind me and approaching a roundabout. I check mirror, nothing behind for quite some distance, signal to move over and while doing it there is a bloke who is clearly compensating for something:

flies up my backside flashing his lights at me intimidating me to move over out of his way.

How does the "quite some distance" behind you that he covered compare to the distance to the roundabout and when you chose to make your move from lane 1 to lane 2? At what point did you first see him? How long was your right indicator on for before switching lanes and did you get any reaction from him before committing to the maouevre? Could you have misjudged his approach speed and pulled out in front of him? Did he think you could have held lane 1 for longer approaching the roundabout as he had room to undertake you and return to lane 2, and that you had deliberately inconvenienced him?

While there's no excuse for bullying and intimidation on the roads, chances are it was triggered and you're in control of that

Chris

I dont think I did anything to provoke it, but I may have missed something. I wouldnt say I change lanes slowly, but I dont do the thing of indicating and then immediatly moving over, nor do I aggressivly move from one lane to the other as I was taught to move lanes steadily so that if you have missed something in a blindspot (after all we are all human) then things will happen slower and give more time to react for both drivers. Perhaps this played a part, with the combination of slowly moving over and him doing nigh on twice the limit.

The only way I can really describe it is with a map, but even then I cant remember how it all fitted together.

Edit: just realised the text is small! Sorry.

How does the "quite some distance" behind you that he covered compare to the distance to the roundabout and when you chose to make your move from lane 1 to lane 2?

He was probably doing about 80/90 to have caught up that fast but Im useless with quoting distances

At what point did you first see him?

Quite some way back, about 6 lorry lengths, and had some idea he was doing some speed but he was probably accelerating still away from the previous roundabout so I may have misjudged his speed and thus the time he would reach me.

How long was your right indicator on for before switching lanes and did you get any reaction from him before committing to the maouevre?

About 4 seconds ish, hard to say really. I didnt get a reaction from him but he was still a bit of a distance away so I thought Id be out of his lane by the time he gets to me.

Could you have misjudged his approach speed and pulled out in front of him?

Yes, I probably misjudged his speed but I definatly didnt pull out infront of him (infact I was pulling out of his way). In my opinion he seen me doing 50, approaching a roundabout so probably braking at the time but definatly slowing down, and yet he continued at an inappropriate speed not taking into account me slowing.

Did he think you could have held lane 1 for longer approaching the roundabout as he had room to undertake you and return to lane 2, and that you had deliberately inconvenienced him?

No, I think the timings were about right.

While there's no excuse for bullying and intimidation on the roads, chances are it was triggered and you're in control of that

I dont think I did trigger it to be fair, I think he was just a very impatient driver who clearly wasnt following the rules of the road. I think I maintained my control very well too, as like you say I could have played funny buggers and blocked him or slowed him down by hogging his lane, instead I continued as I would have done without want for confrontation (after all I dont live in a particularly nice area so chances are he was on something too:rofl:). Like I say though, perhaps I may have moved over too slowly but I have my reasons.

Mike you mentioned he was about 6 lorry lengths behind. But you pic shows it to be a lot more than that ?

Mike you mentioned he was about 6 lorry lengths behind. But you pic shows it to be a lot more than that ?

It does doesnt it!

Like I say, Im not good at quantifying distance, and its hard to plot where he was in relation to me on a map - all I know is that he was quite some distance behind, and he was doing a helluva speed, and I didnt do anything to provoke the blokes reaction - if I did inconvenience him then perhaps he should have slowed down. I was just trying to quantify the distance in order to answer ScoobyChris's question.

I was just wanting to have a bit of a rant to get it out of my system, wasnt planning on having to give such a detailed description:P

Grr.

Mike

Was he a stocky, bald geezer with tattoos, wearing a sleeveless singlet and wearing shades?

i don't like these kind of things either (the experience not the explanation and subsequent map ) but kind of shake my head and get on with it safe in the knowledge that the other guy is a kn0b.

My other half though gets really really irrate and quite shaken up by some treatment as was demonstrated yesterday.

Decribed as beast as i can remember from her recount of the event:-

A long section of NSL dual carriageway on her commute home terminates in a roundabout and then a very short 2 into 1 lane merge on the roundabout exit and into a 40mph zone. Yesterday a queue forms in the lerfthand lane of the dual carriage way and all is going fine. Until a guy flies down the outside lane overtaking everyone and expects to barge in in-front of the missus. She has been sat in the queue for a good few minutes so holds her ground to much protesting and hand signals. He's that stubborn that he refuses to back down and ends up on the wrong side of the road after the merge section has finished and is essentially driving into her front wing.

After getting withing inches of her wing mirror oncoming traffic evenutally forces him to slot in behind at which point to welds himself to to her rear bumper with much flashing and gesturing!

Both the other half and her female passenger were shook up by the proceedings and couldn't believe how someone could be quite so aggresive over what is essentially 1 car length in a cue of traffic!! :rotz:

Had the worst case scenario happened and there's been a collision who's in the wrong when it comes to filter lanes?

Would she be in the wrong for not letting him in and essentially driving into his passenger door?

Or would he be in the wrong for barging into traffic and essentially driving into her front wing? :confused:

The best thing todo in the situation of being followed/chased etc is to drive to the nearest Police station

Had the worst case scenario happened and there's been a collision who's in the wrong when it comes to filter lanes?

Would she be in the wrong for not letting him in and essentially driving into his passenger door?

Or would he be in the wrong for barging into traffic and essentially driving into her front wing? :confused:

I was told on my test that you should let traffic filter in, but at then he told me not to let anyone in because he wanted to get home to watch the footie! Class.

Was he a stocky, bald geezer with tattoos, wearing a sleeveless singlet and wearing shades?

All I know is he was a skinhead and could easily have taken me in hand to hand combat:rofl:

Mike, unless he was way closer than you seem to believe (and you're the one who says you're not good at judging distances) when you first moved, he seems to have been a "right ba'heid" to not just pull left and overtake the vehicle signalling a right turn quite legally on its left.

On the point about "moving to RH lane to allow other vehicles to merge from a sliproad", you are aware that they are required to ceed priority to vehicles on the road they're joining? and that you are not legally allowed to enforce a speed limit?

I cycle a lot and really hate it when some motorists think they have more of a right to the road than me, up to the point that they will endanger my life. I abide by the highway code but this doesn't seem to be enough for some who see me as fair game.

What really irritates me is drivers who will give horses a wide berth but then come past me close enough to take a paint sample.

Had the worst case scenario happened and there's been a collision who's in the wrong when it comes to filter lanes?

Would she be in the wrong for not letting him in and essentially driving into his passenger door?

Or would he be in the wrong for barging into traffic and essentially driving into her front wing? :confused:

What I have been told is: the drivers in the lane that is disappearing have to give way.

On a road where there is a permanant merging of lanes there is usually an arrow painted on the road - this arrow tells you who is merging in the permanant lane.

(Hope this makes sense)

I cycle a lot and really hate it when some motorists think they have more of a right to the road than me, up to the point that they will endanger my life. I abide by the highway code but this doesn't seem to be enough for some who see me as fair game.

What really irritates me is drivers who will give horses a wide berth but then come past me close enough to take a paint sample.

Ive recently taken up cycling myself and have noticed this. Also some drivers even after seeing me and making eye contact will overtake me and then immediatly turn left causing me to put my brakes on

I think the word that sums it up is etiquette.

BBC - h2g2 - Driving Etiquette - UK

Edited 22 May, 200917 yr by PEMBO

i despise these bast*rds that drive these vehicles, just 30 mins ago i had an incident with one, since when was the left hand lane going into a roundabout been the lane to go all the way round? he cuts across me, misses my front end by 3 inch at the most, i look at him in his wing mirror, hes on his phone, he sees the disbelief in my face, slams his phone down and proceeds to hurl abuse at me!! to say i was speechless was an understatement, its a daily basis these c*nts cause chaos on the roads, they are a vehicle for ****s with small penises, i dont give a crap if its a work vehicle, there is no way they are more suitable than a van for whatever job they need to do. f*cking rednecks. sorry for the rant i just hate these ***** more than BMW drivers

UK roads are full of violent, aggressive c*ck heads. There's often no escape from them.

A good few years ago the M6 through (over?) Birmingham had a roadworks section which overnight was reduced for about 2 miles to 1 lane at night, then opened up into 2 lanes 200 yards before a Gatso camera. Once a week I drove through there at night and every time at the posted roadworks limit (50MPH) someone would tailgate, flash lights etc. When the lane opened up would they hurl past, giving mer the finger or whatever and than get Gatso'd. Happened 4 times in a row

All I know is he was a skinhead and could easily have taken me in hand to hand combat:rofl:

All trucks like this are driven by these typecastes.

I used to let incidents like this really wind me up. I think it's better to let them go over your head and just carry on with what you are doing. Unfortunately the roads are full of folks in a hurry, especially "you can't mess around with him" pickup type trucks and white vans.

Try not to take anything personally and always think of the following statement:-

"We're all just trying to get somewhere"