Hi folks, looking at getting a set of wheels and tyres for the Superb. Also looking at getting the car lowered.

I find the handling of the superb pretty scary. Doesnt seem to like corners at all. I love the ride quality though and want to keep this as much as possible.

Was thinking of getting a set of Eibach springs for it. My mate got a set for his golf estate and said they are great and still have good ride quality. Any recommendations as to what set up i should get and where I can get them from?.

Also looking at getting a set of 18 or 19 inch alloys for the car. Any recommendations for which size i should get and if 18s and 19s are straight fit. Car is not used that much to be honest. I drive about 6000 miles or less in a year. That includes work.

I seen a nice gold car on here with 19s. *****************************************************************

Looking to get either the RS8 alloys, RS4 or the new style anthracite RS4 alloys. there is £200 difference between 18 and 19 RS4s. but only 100 quid difference between the 18 RS4s and 19 RS8s. Dunno what would suit the car best though.

Here is a picture of my car when i picked it up

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39767019@N02/3655634152/

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by DGW
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It's a barge to the newbie, you soon get used to it and compensate though, I can live with Golf's if I need to:rolleyes: but as Fluff said to me when I 1st got mine, lowering it and alloying it still doesn't turn it into a F1 car, allow yourself time to adjust, if anything it's a blessing as the Capri was, those that can drive will adapt, those that can't will be scrapped up off the road.

Firstly, I am sure if you want to sell your wheels then advertising them in the classifieds should get you some interest but if not then I would put them on Edition38 as that is also free to advertise........

As Supurbia has stated above the Superb is not a 'hot hatch' or a race car so you have to expect little from it but I can say that with a decent suspension set up then it will ride a lot better. I would be careful just fitting springs as on a heavy car it may suffer from bounce and in my opinion you would be better fitting struts and springs from the off or coilovers........you can source coilovers cheap or pay a fair whack for them but this will depend on your budget and running coils myself the ride is so much better but still very comfortable..........

Wheel wise, you can fit 18 or 19 with no problems but ensure that you stick to around ET37 on the wheels or you will have some problems, Merc, Audi, Seat, VW wheels will all fit on if you wanted to broaden your horizon but like I said just check the ET before you buy........

Just replied to your very similar post here

http://briskoda.net/superb/2-8-v6-problems-mainly-electrial/148196/2/

As to not hi-jack the other thread here is another forum member's Superb rolling on 19" RS8's and V-Maxx Coilovers.........

Hi, thanks for the feedback. I am aware that the Superb is no hot hatch and was never manufactured as so. It is a luxury barge. Still you must admit that the handling is pretty terrible. My Honda Accord Estate handled better. Just seems to be all over the place. I drive on A class roads in Scotland mind you which are pretty horrific.

So coilovers are the way forward?. How much would I be looking at for a set of V-maxx or a set of Bilsteins and sports springs as suggested by dieselv6?.

That Skoda looks well nice on them RS8 rims. I think that is the way I will go. Might just get the springs though as Eibach are top quality and are lifetime warranty. Mate has them on his golf estate and ride quality is not compromised and looks real nice and low.

30mm does not seem like alot for a car to be lowered and surely coilovers would lower it far more than a set of springs. The sport springs from Skoda lower it 20mm am i right?. Could probably get my alloys and the Eibachs for the price of a set of them though. Skoda dealers charge a fortune for bits. My car is the 2.8 V6 so might already have sport springs is there any way to check?.

The other picture on my flickr is my mums astra. This was another car with shocking handling. The car seemed all wobbly and loose in the corners. So you would be half way through a bend and then the car would seem to bulge or surge. I was travelling at 50mph round a corner that I can be driven round at 60 no probs. The problem was it had been raining and the farmer had been out in his old beaten up tractor which had spilled mud, oil and diesel on the road half way through the bend. So half way through the bend the back end shot out and I hit about the only tree on the whole road. lol. So its taking time to build up confidence again. The Skoda feels similer though it seems to bounce round corners rather than steer through them.

In my opinion it's coil's all the way but then I am not happy with driving a car looking like it's on 'stilt's (no disrepect to other Superb driver's) and you will find that maybe a 40mm drop or 30mm drop on springs and an increase in wheel size may end up with the Superb looking still a little too high IMO.

I used to run Eibach Pro Dampers and Springs on my VW Bora and while I agree the quality is great the height for me just wasn't enough.

You should be able to tell what suspension you have if you look at your label under the carpet in your boot but I am not sure which code refers to the suspension, someone will know on here.........

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by DGW
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HI, thanks for that what suspension have you got on your car and how much have you lowered it?.

I agree a car that has a lower centre of gravity will handle better that a car on stilts. Superb is a bit too bouncy for my liking.

A mate of mine has a passat 2002 model on 18" RS4 alloys and he lowered his 60mm front and 40mm rear. Looks good. Before he lowered it he had a huge gap between the arch and the wheel.

I looked up them v-maxx coilovers and can get a set for £349 delivered. Not too bad. The Eibachs were £180 delivered. so about double the price.

Would look alot better on 19s though than the standard 17s which in my opinion look dwarfed on the superb.

Do coilovers wreck ride quality though?. The standard suspension is pretty crashy over bumps and rough roads. But on a smooth road its smooth as you like.

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by paul2cr

I am running KW Variant 1 coilovers with the rear adjuster blocks removed and the front as low as it will go and still be speed bump friendly.

That price for the V-Maxx coilovers is what I believe the owner paid for the one's on the black Superb above..........

I run 17's on mine in the winter on the coils and it still looks pretty good IMO just not as good as the 19's.

Ride quality is better on the 19's than the 17's due to the bounce in the 45 profile tyre on the 17's but the overall ride quality is very good as the seats in the Superb are like armchairs.

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by DGW
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Hi, checked out them kw coilovers and at £869 they are a bit out of my price range. v-maxx kit seems to be ok at £349.

Does look nice on them RS8 rims. Was considering the RS4 rims as well. Want it to look like a standard fit item. The black Skoda on 19 RS8s looks like its standard fit.

I do not know why car manufacturers build cars with huge arches and stick tiny wheels in them. Some Superbs have 16" alloys as well. My arches drown my 17s.

Not just Skoda though. My honda accord had 17s and looked like 14" rims cos the arches were huge and the doors and panels are big. Same as teh superb the doors and panels are huge so why put tiny wheels?. The new superb comes with 18s which is an improvement but i bet 20s would fit nicely.

By the way your car is top notch. Looks sweet. I need to invest in some cleaning products for mine. Do you know a good product to eliminate the smell of cigarettes?. The person who owned the car must have smoked cos the car is reeking of tobacco. Also I am pretty sure that he had a dog in teh boot????. How on earth that worked i dont know. But there was dog doo on the boot mat and hairs aplenty. I used turtlewax interior shampoo and febreeze and i have plenty of magic trees. Maybe over time it will go away.

Looking forward to getting the car fully serviced and 19s stuck on it. ***************************************

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by DGW
For the same reason as earlier posts!

Hi, checked out them kw coilovers and at £869 they are a bit out of my price range. v-maxx kit seems to be ok at £349.

The new superb comes with 18s which is an improvement but i bet 20s would fit nicely.

Do you know a good product to eliminate the smell of cigarettes?

The KW's are very expensive but I have been in that Superb pictured above the V-Maxx ride very well........

There is a guy over in Belgium who runs 20's on his Superb with no problems.........

Thanks for the comment's on my Superb..........

I may be able to help on any 'Detailing' related questions and I would recommend this:

- Chemical Guys - SoFast Odour & Bacteria Killer Elite Car Care

As for your other wheels I reckon you could get between £300 and £350?

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by DGW
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Thanks for that i will give that product a try. They have alot of other good products for cleaning the car as well. Might invest in some.

I think I will stick to getting 19s and a set of they v-maxx coilovers. I might get RS4 rims though but not sure yet as the RS8 alloys look really good and suit the car.

18s would be over 100 quid cheaper but i dont think look as good as 19s.

Will have to get cambelt done and other service parts first and the track rod end replaced.

Thinking about getting an air induction kit for it as well but cant seem to find anyone that does them for the 2.8 v6 superb. Can get them for 2.8 v6 golf and bora.

Only seem to be panel filters available. Might be possible to custom fit one to the existing pipe.

If you want a nice looking set of wheels check Jason (Boycarp)s car our.

yeah they look ok, thats the old style rs4s. the new rs4s are well nice. But i think the large spokes of the RS8s suit the large panels of the superb.

Its made up my mind on the suspension though Eibachs still leave a fairly large gap between arch and tyre.

Also made up my mind about getting 19s. The 18s are nice but still a little small.

20s cost a fortune so they are a no go.

I have seen alot of people selling Audi Q7 s-line alloys for cheap on ebay but they have wild size tyres on them.

Any ideas about induction kits for the superb?. Or home made air intake?. Could attach a cone filter to the end of the air filter pipe. Not had it off to look yet dunno if this is possible.

Took the 2.8 V6 out for a drive this afternoon. took it to 4500rpm and it sounds amazing and is extremely rapid.

How about this puppy then

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by Supurbia

I have seen alot of people selling Audi Q7 s-line alloys for cheap on ebay but they have wild size tyres on them.

Be careful when looking at Q7 alloys as they may well be the incorrect PCD, Superb PCD is 5 x 112................I may be wrong but I think Q7 wheels are PCD 5 x 120?

Sorry to hi jack thread, where did you see the v maxx coilovers for £349? I need to replace 1 snapped spring but lowering the car is becoming too tempting

Sorry to hi jack thread, where did you see the v maxx coilovers for £349? I need to replace 1 snapped spring but lowering the car is becoming too tempting

Superb Coilovers | V-Maxx Suspension

Superb Coilovers | V-Maxx Suspension

Coo thanksl, sorry one last hi jack, do you need any additional bits to fit these or does everything come in the kit? IE new bolts etc

Coo thanksl, sorry one last hi jack, do you need any additional bits to fit these or does everything come in the kit? IE new bolts etc

Everything you need comes with the kit but unless you have changed suspension before and have the proper tools I would leave it to your local garage.............

The passat looks nice. Prefer the Skoda though. Fraction of the price too.

V-Maxx coilovers at £349.99

Page 2 - V-Maxx Coilovers Audi VW Citroen Peugeot

or http://www.gti-bits.co.uk/vmaxx-parts.php:thumbup:

I thought skoda superbs were 5x100?. Most of the Q7 alloys have 275/45 tyres though which are pretty wild size.

Getting my prices tomorrow for the cambelt etc from a local guy. Hopefully the money I save will get me my coilovers. Should be as Mr Skoda wanted £800 for the service parts and cambelt.

Ps. how hard is it to debadge the superb. I noticed that your car and the black one you sent me pictures of have the badges removed. Looks good

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by paul2cr

I thought skoda superbs were 5x100?. Most of the Q7 alloys have 275/45 tyres though which are pretty wild size.

Ps. how hard is it to debadge the superb. I noticed that your car and the black one you sent me pictures of have the badges removed. Looks good

Skoda Superb = 5 x 112

Skoda Octavia MK1 = 5 x 100

Debadging is easy and if you apply some heat to the badges, then with some dental floss you can pull the badges off, quick clean up job and stand back and admire your work........

Superb Coilovers | V-Maxx Suspension

At least the picture shown on that website are "normal" shocks and springs with adjustable spring perches at rear, and classic McPherson struts (which are coilovers by definition) on the front. Just that the springs have smaller diameter does not make them work better, in fact the opposite when it comes to large displacements.

In strict meaning of performance upgrade, some coilovers have inverted shock absorber and/or external reservoir to reduce unsprung weight. However, these kits are often not road legal and cost a lot more money than the standard short shock assembly + fancy coloured springs on front + adjustable spring perches and separate shocks/springs for the rear. Which is exactly what is sold on that website.

But I guess if you care primarily about reducing wheel arch clearance, it does not matter.

Also, I have been looking at a handling discussion here and again, please do try to work out how much (percentage wise, or relatively) the centre of mass drops when you drop the ride even by 50mm. The answer is not by much (center of mass sits well above the floor thanks to engine mounted high, so at best you'd hope for 10%-15% centre of gravity drop. This means that all things being equal, you can enter the corner at 5%-7% higher speed (lateral forces are proportional to square of speed). Not double the speed.

The reasons why handling in corners often gets better with dropped suspension are as follows:

1. During upgrade, you put new shock absorbers which make the system damped much better. This is most of the improvement, this can make corners possible at double the speed prior to upgrade, and this can be achieved on stock or even HD suspension by simply replacing stock shock absorbers with stiffer/more accurate ones. You do not need to drop ride height, and in particular dropping the ride height leads to shortened suspension travel which you'll feed on every speed bump and pothole until you smash your oil pan to pieces. Plus stock VW shocks are rubbish and underdamping after 20k miles of driving at high speeds on motorway - yes, I tested that on both Octavia and Superb, replaced them within a year of buying new car.

2. On most cars, dropping the suspension increases camber on each wheel. This causes sharper handling in corners... and increased tyre wear everywhere else. Plus on the Superb due to multi-link front suspension the camber will stay similar so this effect will only be observed on uneven rear tyre wear.

My advice is stay with stock springs, or get sport suspension ones for the 20mm drop for looks, and get good dampers. Bilstein sports B6 are very good for balance of comfort vs handling, if you want harder get adjustable Yellow Konis. Mind that Bilsteins are a lot more rust-proof than Konis.

Lowered suspension (40mm+ lowered, not the 20mm cosmetics) only shortens shock absorber travel, makes the ride uncomfortable and wears out suspension components and tyres more quickly. You have been warned...

You have been warned...

Hmm, I think someone doesn't want me to lower my car on coilovers.

My friend has had coilovers in his mondeo for 4 years and he has not had any problems like you are suggesting. You have lowered your car with 20mm springs and stiffened shocks therefor your suspension travel has been reduced also. Maybe you are regretting spending a fortune on bilstein shocks and sport springs and wish you had got yourself a set of coilovers to start with?

Coilovers can be adjusted anywhere from 30mm to 60mm so if they were set to 30mm would not be far off what yours are. Also coilover kits are usually alot better quality than sport springs or shocks. I am not going to lower it 60mm and then race over speedbumps and potholes so the oil pan will be fine.

I care about ride comfort and safety. The car does not at all feel safe on corners it rolls and back end is loose. This is at low speeds.:eek:

I want the car to look good and I only drive less than 6000 miles a year. Im sure that it will be fine. Have you had any problems with yours Baker?. That guy with the black superb and RS8 rims had any problems?.

I will be keeping a close eye on the tyres for the first few thousand miles to check for premature wearing on insides. As soon as its spotted it will be getting fixed if it needs it. Just to point out though the tyres which were on the car when i bought it were worn on the insides. Bilstein shocks and sport springs would prob cost double the price of the coilovers as well. I am not made of money.

Going to get the tints done as well. I seen a very smart grille for the superb as well. But i think i am going to remove the large Skoda badges from the bonnet and the boot. I might have them replaced with something else. Also the steering wheel badge. Try to confuse people into thinking its something else. Most people have never heard of a superb.