the pressed plates are perfectly legal, the "bsau 145d" (which covers the reflectivity, font and size/spacing amongst other things) mark confirms this, anyone who argues against that is talking ******** and if the police try and tell you they are illegal, take the ticket, bin it and let it goto court... you will not lose.

Right - taken off another site, but a reply from Dubmeister to someone else querying the legality -

"Our plates have been developed with a large plate manufacturer that supplies for example official Netherlands plates and serves other countries and manufactures to many differing standards world wide.. They don't have to be tested by BSI, just be designed to comply, and actually comply if tested, and this is what we have done.

The BSAU 145d regulation has been finely gone through by our manufacturer and relevant sections have be exceeded or met, including a section specifically designed to exclude metal plates, which necessitated a subtle exclusive redesign of the metal base plate and different material to 'regular' Euro show plates, as well as altered letter tooling and lastly permanent laser marking of supplier info and maker info and the standard they are made to.

They have been fully tested by our manufacturer and pre tested against the BS145d standard by the German DIN institute – (in case any major flaws we hadn’t picked up on), who have set up testing environments for BSAU145d now, are testing and will award a certificate to this effect on completion.

We are fully satisfied they comply or exceed BSAU145d and have been told by a British Standards institute they can be marked as such if we are sure they comply by cross referencing DIN regs that duplicate/exceed sections of BS145d and amendments we have made, and they offered additional help if we needed, which we don't.

No UK authority has the knowledge or means to test plates other than British Standard Institute. No Police or local authority can challenge a user as they are marked correctly as to comply, and that’s the end of it as far as prosecution of the user.

If they want to test them they would have to send off to BSI and pay the £6000 to £15,000 fee...and result would be they pass anyway.

Our dealers/suppliers take proper relevant driver/vehicle ID which is a major part of plates being legal, correct lettering and physical plate spec alone is not sufficient as prevention of vehicle cloning is probably the main issue in 'illegal' plates and prosecutions."

If you get stopped with these plates on you do get the option of a court hearing instead of just paying the £60 fine. So ...............who's going to make this a test case

Oh - and as far as I can tell, ORIGINAL documents need to be seen.

Here's a good link Legislation

Link to the thread.

Edited 26 August, 200916 yr by vRS G60

Torque, shame you are so far away otherwise I could have scanned it for you. Are you not near a stockist?

nah mine am miles away from a stockist otherwise i would have had them over the ones ive got, i love the ones i have but you do get a bit of a 5p - 50p action when the rozzers drive by, dont think there to bothered around here, all the little paxo w4nkos have them as well. I might buy a scanner cheap just to get some haha

its rich by the way mate

Another edit - these plates ARE reflective.

any better pics from the OP ?

maybe a close up of the white/yellow

i would REALLY like some of these plates but only if im 100% confident they are 100% legal

i make LOADS of plates every day at work and i did in my last job too, even had a police inspection once, and although i dont claim to know everything about the British Standard mark, i do know a few bits of the law regarding plates

the above reply by Dubmeister reads to me as though they think they are compliant, but they have never been actually tested against the BSAU 145d

If you get stopped with these plates on you do get the option of a court hearing instead of just paying the £60 fine. So ...............who's going to make this a test case

i got a fine for euro-style plates, mines were actually not to uk spec and were in the german font. i opted to not pay the fine and it ended up in court, i plead not guilty, my lawyer had a word with the PF and the case was dropped on the basis i provided proof my plates were currently legal. this was done and it cost me nothing! so for plates that are actually legal, i would most certainly take it all the way if the police were threatening this, that or simply handing out a fine.

do not be bullied!

Brun, will sort some now

i got a fine for euro-style plates, mines were actually not to uk spec and were in the german font. i opted to not pay the fine and it ended up in court, i plead not guilty, my lawyer had a word with the PF and the case was dropped on the basis i provided proof my plates were currently legal. this was done and it cost me nothing! so for plates that are actually legal, i would most certainly take it all the way if the police were threatening this, that or simply handing out a fine.

do not be bullied!

YOU WHAT?? you had some illegal plates! with german font? and you managed to prove they were legal??????? :eek:

any better pics from the OP ?

maybe a close up of the white/yellow

Right, done a few but hopefully it will help

Here you go

I ran my car for years with Dub plates on and never got pulled

Only changed them this year come MOT time, but have not put the back yet

aha !

clearly very reflective, i think its time to order some !

aha !

clearly very reflective, i think its time to order some !

Glad I could help

how are you fixing them to the car ?

how are you fixing them to the car ?

these as my last set were stuck on using very sticky DS tape and were stolen :thumbdwn:

does the tailgate have holes in for a number plate ?

does the tailgate have holes in for a number plate ?

mine does as my current plates are screwed on

YOU WHAT?? you had some illegal plates! with german font? and you managed to prove they were legal??????? :eek:

i didnt prove the ones with german font were legal but it was agreed it was a waste of court time and provided i could get a letter proving my plates were currently legal the case would be dropped. and my plates by that point were made to be legal in the uk font with the correct markings etc.

But German plates aren't illegal...

Magical loop-holes (although I wouldn't want to fight it myself in court!)

But German plates aren't illegal...

Magical loop-holes (although I wouldn't want to fight it myself in court!)

the german font is illegal on a uk car, i dont see why though as its clearly legible and works on apnr. uk plates must match bsau 145d, i think the only way out of that is if the plate is tuv approved, but it still must contain the uk spec font and size

how much are these plates ?

30 quid plus postage i paid 36 quid all in

If they are screwed on are they likely to bend/deform from the pressure of the screws? I didn't know if a holder was required for these or not?

Marc

They seem really strong but I was going to use a spacer if they weren't

I have s set and stuck them on using these.

6mm NUMBER PLATE DOUBLE SIDED FIXING PADS+ on eBay (end time 22-Sep-09 20:12:31 BST)

I use a holder for mine.....

Andy where did you get that ?