flashes twice do you definitely have a ticket? Fine and points? Was about 36-38mph in a 30mph - totally didn't realise my speed :thumbdwn:

Nope...

It may be "flagged" by the machine and checked. So keep your fingers crossed!

Depends if it was loaded with film.

You got 14 days to wait and see if you own the vehicle - upto 9 if leased etc.

Wouldn't he know if he owns it already?

If the driver is not the registered keeper then I think they have more than 14 days to get the letter to you.

If the driver is not the registered keeper then I think they have more than 14 days to get the letter to you.

The NIP must be (shown to have been attempted to be) served to the registered keeper within 14 days for it to stand. Once it is received, it is their obligation to notify the police of who was driving the vehicle at the time of the offence and the police then have 6 months in which to prosecute.

To the OP, if the camera has flashed twice it's been triggered but it'll depend on the type of camera and how "busy" it is as to whether you've been caught. Best to sit tight. I'd also recommend signing up to an advanced driving organisation if you're looking for techniques to be aware of your speed without staring at the speedo

Chris

flashes twice do you definitely have a ticket? Fine and points? Was about 36-38mph in a 30mph - totally didn't realise my speed :thumbdwn:

Welcome to the unwanted club of many many members.:pants:

Hold your breath time I'm afraid fellah.

Didn't help me this time last year though sadly. :rotz:

36 in a 30. Road empty,wide, dry and sunny. Makes no difference unfortunately. The roadside cash making machines don't take prisoners if loaded.

Kaching .

Edited 10 October, 200916 yr by Mr Ree

Is the first one anti-red eye ?

I got flashed twice on the A3020 Eastern Road (Portsmouth) on the way home, I know I was doing the 30 limit as I'd locked the speed with cruise control & my Sat Nav concurred with the speedo within 1mph.

So I rung up Hants police & said about it, a nice lady asked me for my registration & said they'd ring back the next day & they were as good to their word and told me it was a car on the outside of me that had tripped it. Phew!

I got flashed 6 times on the one protecting the junction of London Road, York Road & Waterden Road in Guildford & I complained about it & got told your not the first one tonight, there's a fault on it!

For a while I was thinking 3, 6, 9 points in one hit, even though I wasn't speeding, I was stationary & stopped before the stop line! Got away with that one too!

Like the others have said that you'll have to wait upto 14 days to see what happens, most cameras are set to V+10% to allow for speedo deficiencies however you were doing 36-38 in a 30 so the most probable outcome will be 3pts & £60.

They're stuck on there for 3 years before they're considered spent.

flashes twice do you definitely have a ticket? Fine and points? Was about 36-38mph in a 30mph - totally didn't realise my speed :thumbdwn:

36 -38 according to speedo COULD BE 32.4- 34.2 depending on how far off speedo reads .They can legally read up to 10% over .So perhaps you're inside the cash collection zone ( ACPO "guidelines " are 10%+2mph @ 30 = 35 mph ) .Even then some do offer a Speed Awareness course ( more like a lot these days as they make money from them as opposed to FPN which goes direct to Treasury).

So if you get NIP through post at those figures ,suggest you get on over to Peppipoo to see how to get photo - and don't forget (cynical head on ) that sometimes they send the NIPS out without checking the speed .

And after all that if you find problems spotting cameras ,suggest you brush up on observation skills .Not going to get into preacher mode , but the camera you missed could have been something more vulnerable- like a child about to wander into road ( let's not forget the children -that's what road safety is all about -as preached by the SCP brethren).

That's what's wrong with road safety ( UK style) -it's too easy to get somebody for exceeding a numerical limit( whilst driving safely) than for getting a conviction for someone doing 40 dangerously in an NSL .

Not trying to be smart, but you should have been paying more attention. To the OP, there not cash printing machines hidden in obscure places. They are bright yellow and only flash if you break the speed limit... seems more than fair to me.

Not trying to be smart, but you should have been paying more attention. To the OP, there not cash printing machines hidden in obscure places. They are bright yellow and only flash if you break the speed limit... seems more than fair to me.

let him who has no sin cast the first stone:rolleyes:

Go slow: police win the right to camouflage speed cameras - Times Online - have a read and post back

and for the original post another link

Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP)

yes i've had the points, 9 in less than a year a few years back now so i had a lot of reading and finding out what these NIPs were and what i had to do. I DO agree with speed cameras as well - if their In the right places.

let him who has no sin cast the first stone:rolleyes:

Go slow: police win the right to camouflage speed cameras - Times Online - have a read and post back

Agreed.

I'd never ever gone over 30 in a 30 limit in forty yeras of driving....until 12 months ago of course, little angel that I am. :rotz:

Reading that I must say I don't know what the plod are complaining about.

They've already solved the so called problem of being 'too visible' in N.Wales.

Hide the mobile scameras in horse boxes, caravanettes and wheelie bins.

Not trying to be smart, but you should have been paying more attention. To the OP, there not cash printing machines hidden in obscure places. They are bright yellow and only flash if you break the speed limit... seems more than fair to me.[/quote

Yeah I know, I know But I had just had a date, so my mind was elsewhere :P

Not trying to be smart' date=' but you should have been paying more attention. To the OP, there not cash printing machines hidden in obscure places. They are bright yellow and only flash if you break the speed limit... seems more than fair to me.[/quote

Yeah I know, I know But I had just had a date, so my mind was elsewhere :P[/quote]

I hope she was worth £60 :rofl:

flashes twice do you definitely have a ticket? Fine and points? Was about 36-38mph in a 30mph - totally didn't realise my speed :thumbdwn:

this may be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that the police are allowed to let you off ( the 10% +2 thing) but if the guys in an evil mood he can ticked you anyway, i went through a camera at 35 ish about a month ago and didnt get a ticket, plus i've been told that speedometers are offset by about 2mph so you cant get caught speeding.

If this is wrong can someone tell me.

There are quite a few empty cameras around nowadays, however the ones that I know that are always active are:

M25 variable speed section, they're set to trip at 10% regardless of whether the VSR is in force or not, although I've been told unofficially that they'll trip at 79mph when the signs aren't lit, but I wouldn't try it.

Portsmouth: A3020 Eastern Road, A3 Mile End Road, A3 Anglesey Road, A2047 London Road,

A25 Epsom Raod, Merrow, A31 Farnham Road, A25 Ladymead (Redlight & Speed!)

All of the above are digital cameras, so no film, just instant download. Kerrching!

this may be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that the police are allowed to let you off ( the 10% +2 thing) but if the guys in an evil mood he can ticked you anyway, i went through a camera at 35 ish about a month ago and didnt get a ticket, plus i've been told that speedometers are offset by about 2mph so you cant get caught speeding.

A couple of good points. Construction and Use regulations state that speedos are legally permitted to overread by up to 10% but not underread. The ACPO guidelines for prosecution suggest that 10% + 2mph is the speed at which they should consider prosecuting with a fixed penalty notice. Of course these are just guidelines and whether they are adhered to from force to force and individual to individual is another matter Any speed above the limit is illegal and may result in a NIP...

Chris

A couple of good points. Construction and Use regulations state that speedos are legally permitted to overread by up to 10% but not underread.

Chris

sorry i'm a student and those are big words, do you mean a speedo can say you're going at 30 when you;'re actually doing 28?

sorry i'm a student and those are big words, do you mean a speedo can say you're going at 30 when you;'re actually doing 28?

Yup, if you're driving along at a true 30mph, the maximum indicated speed you'll see on the speedo is 33mph. So if you trust your speedo (and your car is road legal ) you should never get a ticket for speeding...

Chris

like chris has mentioned above if the speedo is 10% out and they follow acpo guidelines, on some cars for a 30mph zone you would have to be doing 39mph on the speedo to get a ticket

Back on topic, do the cameras flash even if they aren't 'active'/have the inards in them? Or is it literally everything that is taken out?

Edited 16 October, 200916 yr by TriggerFish

Back on topic, do the cameras flash even if they aren't 'active'/have the inards in them? Or is it literally everything that is taken out?

They can have everything but the camera unit, which many forces move between cameras so they all *could* be active.

Camera's can be faulty too. I've seen one that was going off for literally every car.

It does sound a bit close. Sure you were only doing 36?

There is also an issue with Gatsos where they will trigger on cars coming towards them , but only when empty of film.

let him who has no sin cast the first stone:rolleyes:

Go slow: police win the right to camouflage speed cameras - Times Online - have a read and post back

and for the original post another link

Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP)

yes i've had the points, 9 in less than a year a few years back now so i had a lot of reading and finding out what these NIPs were and what i had to do. I DO agree with speed cameras as well - if their In the right places.

If I was doing 38 in 30 I would notice, but I am awear of my speed which is more important as I can alter my driving style.

If I am caught going in excess of the speed limit, it is my fault and I would not contest it due to 'hidden' BRIGHT yellow boxes.