How on earth do these come out?

I have manual windows... I took the door card off and was presented with the gubbins for the inside of the door.

the haynes manual describes a screw and roll pins holding the glass in.... does anyone know anything about these?

There should be inspection grommets you remove from the door carrier plate. The Haynes manual method is correct, but it's fiddly at best.

When you take of the door card, you'll see the inner door plate - the regulator is bolted on to the other side. There might be wee covers over the holes that the haynes manual talks about - if they're there you can just pry these off, as far as I can remember they're around the top corners of the plate. In my car I had to wind the windows down a little to see the screws, when you do see them tape up your windows so they don't fall down, and unscrew these window securing bolts. You'll have to wrestle a bit with the locking pin to get the plate out, but after that you're home free.

Don't ask me about putting it back together without the leak starting again, I was scared of ringing the window thread when I was putting it back together, so my windows are all misty again :S