'Rubbish in the Snow'! Any more winters like this one and my next car will be a Scout...

Edited 13 January, 201016 yr by rsbspt

Get some winter tyres and you'll be driving a GS

You'll still be driving a SD

ITS NOT THE CAR ITS THE TYRES

why does everyone blame the car. the cars are fine in the snow, and the ESP system is very good.

i used it last winter in germany with winter tyres on every day in some pretty hardcore conditions for a prolonged time period, not like the crap we have had. never had any problems in the snow until this year since ive been using summer tyres in the snow.

Edited 13 January, 201016 yr by vRSy

ITS NOT THE CAR ITS THE TYRES

... and quite often, the driver

+1

Already did 10k miles, in different snow situations, this winter.

No problem at all.

You will have cold feet if you go outside on flip flops. Snowboots will be better...........

... and quite often, the driver

Even the best driver cant beat traction of a winter tyre with summer tyres.

He might be able to stay out of trouble better than an average driver. But he cant beat/change physics.

@Babs, just try a winter tyres shod car on derv. You will be amazed

Talking in general now, I don't understand how people can spend a lot of money on their car and on extras, but forget that the only contact they have with the road is essential to how the car behaves on it. Wintertyres during winter, of course. And when you spend your money on them, you might as well look around on the internet and look for the best ones (not the cheapest!). That's money well spent!

And yes, some drivers can deal better with difficult circumstances than others. Why not follow a training? Money well spent, too!

Even the best driver cant beat traction of a winter tyre with summer tyres.

He might be able to stay out of trouble better than an average driver. But he cant beat/change physics.

@Babs, just try a winter tyres shod car on derv. You will be amazed

If the driver is in a situation where he has already lost control, then you can be Shoemaker or some random 17 year old girl... you're not gonna get it back

The point is that a good driver can anticipate a bit better!

And no, not amazed. Bored

Talking in general now, I don't understand how people can spend a lot of money on their car and on extras, but forget that the only contact they have with the road is essential to how the car behaves on it. Wintertyres during winter, of course. And when you spend your money on them, you might as well look around on the internet and look for the best ones (not the cheapest!). That's money well spent!

And yes, some drivers can deal better with difficult circumstances than others. Why not follow a training? Money well spent, too!

makes me chuckle when you see people with fast cars once there 5+ years old, 17"+ wheels with the cheapest nastiest tyres you can imagine

Have been working in the autosport for a couple of seasons and my son and me are still karting.

If you go on a track, you first choose the kind of tyre you want to use.

If it is raining, you use rain tyres, if it is moist, maybe intermediates or when warm enough slicks. In warm weather of course only slicks (hard--->soft).

It is the compound that makes a tyre stick or skid.

Same with the tyres on our road cars. As cars are becomming faster and heavier, it became much more difficult to make a tyre that can be used all year round.

There is no tyre that can perfectly cope with cold weather and is also fastest on track when it is +35°C.

Our summer tyres, especially the wider low profile ones with a high speed index, will never be able to provide grip under the circumstances we had the last few weeks.

Yes, you can move from a to b with those tyres, but far from safe (especially when you have to act quick).

@Babs, that is exactly what I said! (and on the last remark, exactly the response I expected )

Old derv cars are boring, the modern ones arent (that) boring anymore

How about Snow chains then?

http://www.snow-chains.co.uk/product.asp?lot=21&pnid=578&deptid=297

or even Snow socks:

http://www.snow-chains.co.uk/product.asp?lot=21&pnid=575&deptid=297

As for the meaning, not sure. the v is for victory, that much i do know.

... and quite often, the driver

most often i'd have said

seriously... what does RS (and the v) stand for? not rallyesport?

How about Snow chains then?

http://www.snow-chai...=578&deptid=297

or even Snow socks:

http://www.snow-chai...=575&deptid=297

As for the meaning, not sure. the v is for victory, that much i do know.

Those are devices you can use under extreme conditions. Not for daily use.

Did anyone actually answer the question a I'd be quite interested to know the answer. I was going to reply as per the first post but now there's no point. We get the message - winter tyres are the thing to have but by Friday it'll all have gone. I did hear Mr Evans this morning saying that there should be an underground salt mine in the south though - can't imagine why as it never snows there, ably demonstrated by the BBC reporters. Look in the background of the shot and you'll see that the scenic shot they've chosen has a road with cars whizzing along it at about 60mph. Bet they've not got winter tyres on...no snow = no need for winters.

seriously... what does RS (and the v) stand for? not rallyesport?

Bingo.

As Ford own rights to the RS trademark in the UK, Skoda use VRS - with the V meaning Version

Did anyone actually answer the question a I'd be quite interested to know the answer. I was going to reply as per the first post but now there's no point. We get the message - winter tyres are the thing to have but by Friday it'll all have gone. I did hear Mr Evans this morning saying that there should be an underground salt mine in the south though - can't imagine why as it never snows there, ably demonstrated by the BBC reporters. Look in the background of the shot and you'll see that the scenic shot they've chosen has a road with cars whizzing along it at about 60mph. Bet they've not got winter tyres on...no snow = no need for winters.

what you have failed to realise though is the grip available from a summer tyre rapidly deteriorates whe below 7 degreesC, wheras winters provided you are not on ice, will continue to grip at much lower temperatures.

which i why they are mandatory on the mainland, as they are safer for the winter period which is often worse than the uk but for a longer duration

Edited 13 January, 201016 yr by vRSy

Bingo.

As Ford own rights to the RS trademark in the UK, Skoda use VRS - with the V meaning Version

Actually the V means Victory and it is to do with the court case between Skoda and Ford and the RS moniker.

The exact answer has been on here in the last 4 years but bu66ered if I'm going to search for it.

@Babs, just try a winter tyres shod car on derv. You will be amazed

Alert, alert...............does not compute.................you will be exterminated :(

I call BS. How come Porsche and Audi both use RS?

i'd guess coz its immediately proceeded by a number, or tt

And how about Porsche? For example, the 911 GT3 RS?

dunno then lol

How about "Rocket Speed" ?