Is it too soon to ask about chipping a Yeti engine (specifically a CR170 if it makes any difference to the principle)?

I've seen a couple of allusions on other threads to the fact that it might not be (easily?) possible because of increased security on the original ECU on recent VW CR engines. Can anyone provide any more detail please? Maybe I'm wrong and it may be more possible than I'm imagining - if so have any chipping companies been spotted as having announced Yeti products yet?

Lots in Belgium, one of them:

http://www.shiftech.be/reprogrammation.php?model=33&serie=336&year=100&engine=1873

one in Holland:

http://www.ziptuning.nl/en/customchip/Skoda-Yeti-2.0-TDI-170-pk.html#header

It's possible but most cars that were built after 05/2009 have new tuning protection. At the moment the only way to do them is to have the ECU out as far as I'm aware.

That clearly makes the fact that it's tuned a little more obvious to anyone who wants to look, it depends if you care about that or not.

I think that Bluefin do a CR170 @ 204 bhp as do some others, you will need to do a trawl.

Edited 17 February, 201016 yr by Anthony 1

It's possible but most cars that were built after 05/2009 have new tuning protection. At the moment the only way to do them is to have the ECU out as far as I'm aware.

That clearly makes the fact that it's tuned a little more obvious to anyone who wants to look, it depends if you care about that or not.

One of your Lincolnshire based competitors replaces the anti-tamper bolts with new ones, so you can't tell so easily;)

I think that Bluefin do a CR170 @ 204 bhp as do some others, you will need to do a trawl.

Yeti doesn't show on the Bluefin site:

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&task=searchblue&action=AllModels&Itemid=135

But does show on the Superchips site (but not CR110)

http://www.superchips.co.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&task=searchcat&Itemid=134

tom

I was only trying to remember, I posted a power curve up a little while ago of the 170 v- 1.8 I thought is was the Bluefin site but isnt that owned by Superchips anyway, aren't they one and the same? I think if I where searching I would try looking up under CR 170 because that is common in a few VAG vehicles. Some sites may not have been updated to include specifically the Yeti. I am sure that their may be a few differences but a reputable company should be able to address that I would have thought. I only looked up the engine that I was interested in, the 170 CR

One of your Lincolnshire based competitors replaces the anti-tamper bolts with new ones, so you can't tell so easily;)

I'm sure they do, but given that 5 seconds with a diagnostic tool will tell you anyway (and yes, dealers do check ) then I think the anti-tamper bolts are the least of your worries

Edited 18 February, 201016 yr by shark_90

I would be very reluctant to chip or interfere with the performance of the engine while it is under warranty. If you have a big claim, they will be only too happy to find fault and dismiss it. Sure one can challenge that if it is something that you can prove to be unrelated but it is opening up a can of worms. I would wait until the warranty period is over personally or just be prepared to go it alone and pay for your own repairs.

I seam to recall that one chip tuning company will honour warranties if their might be a problem.

Edited 18 February, 201016 yr by Anthony 1

I would be very reluctant to chip or interfere with the performance of the engine while it is under warranty...

Yes I started out with a similar sentiment. But what's made me think twice is that a local Skoda dealer was actively encouraging me to look at the chipping option and said that they could source a suitable chip and install it (and no doubt make some extra money into the bargain, but that would be true for the supplying dealer wherever it was bought).

And the implication was very clearly that the warranty would be unaffected. Of course words and deeds can be very different things, but the whole tone of the discussion was that modern chipping, especially where it involves just a relatively modest power increase (eg 170 ==> 205), has been well thought through and tested and any additional engine stresses are minimal. Of course I'm no expert, which is in part why I'm interested in any further comments here and in any event I'd probably wait at least 6-12 months to allow a new engine to bed in.

I seam to recall that one chip tuning company will honour warranties if their might be a problem.

As always - the devil is in the detail with such policies. Superchips is a 12 month warranty ?

I'd give REVO a call as I know they have seen some very decent gains on these engines and I had a very interesting chat with Kev at Revo just last week - they certainly know their stuff! :yes:

I had my Fabia vRS remapped by DMS. There was an amazing difference with more power and torque without affecting the MPG in normal use - ie boot it more and it drank more but on the day to day works run the MPG was the same. In theory the PD130 went to just under 170hp and 270ish lbft torque.

BUT, although I talked to them before having it done about how the rest of the drive train would cope and was assured that it would cope with no problems, the clutch was not up to it. If you used the torque to tis full advantage then the clutch would slip and I ended up driving more like a petrol and taking the rpm higher in the gears without treading heavily using the torques (if that makes sense). The only round it was to have a Sachs sporting clutch fitted which cured the problem - but at a cost.

My worries after that experience would not be whether the engine could withstand the power/torque increase but what happens further down the drive train.

Allegedly there is an Audi dealer who remaps all their demonstrators....