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In a recent Autoexpress review of the Scout (with no spare, just the inflator kit) they got a puncture. However when they went to re-inflate the tyre with the inflator provided on the Scout, the instructions clearly stated that they shouldn't inflate the tyre unless it was jacked up and the weight removed from the tyre. To their surprise there was no jack (which is only provided with the spare wheel option), so they needed an expensive tow truck.

Is this the case with the Yeti? What do the instructions actually state in case of a flat? In the Owners Manual it says "Please read the attached instructions carefully before the repair" but I can't find a copy of those instructions. Could someone who has them let me know.

I can't make up my mind whether to ordre my Yeti with a spare or without which will give me more boot space..

Compromize: Buy a jack to fit. It is not too expensive and will fit in the plastic toolwell already there. It will also allow you to take the wheel off and get it fixed elsewhere - but you then need a wrench too.

I am not convinced of the utility of the inflator gunk - but the little compressor works well.

I opted for the spare wheel after, and it does take boot space.

In a recent Autoexpress review of the Scout (with no spare, just the inflator kit) they got a puncture. However when they went to re-inflate the tyre with the inflator provided on the Scout, the instructions clearly stated that they shouldn't inflate the tyre unless it was jacked up and the weight removed from the tyre. To their surprise there was no jack (which is only provided with the spare wheel option), so they needed an expensive tow truck.

Is this the case with the Yeti? What do the instructions actually state in case of a flat? In the Owners Manual it says "Please read the attached instructions carefully before the repair" but I can't find a copy of those instructions. Could someone who has them let me know.

I can't make up my mind whether to ordre my Yeti with a spare or without which will give me more boot space..

Buy a spare wheel! Even if the car was supplied with a Jack it is quite possible that the puncture might be irreparable in any case. Often the side wall has been damaged or the hoe is just too big, then the tyre repair gloop will not work

Edited by Anthony 1

As Anthony says. Additionally, the gloop is speed and mileage limited IIRC, and will write off a tyre that could otherwise have been repaired (nail through tread centre for example).

Hi,

This link gives you some idea of how it works - in theory.

Original order was for the standard the Tyre Weld type stuff and Compressor. I then changed my order to a spare wheel.

For me, I felt the Tyre Weld type stuff would be o.k. for an around town type puncture - i.e. travelling a short distance to a safe haven -

but I live further out in the Countryside and I felt the security of a spare wheel in the boot was greater than that of a can of Tyre weld in my case.

Graham

I ordered an Octavia Estate SE fairly recently and specified the full size spare wheel option . For me it was a no brainer a t £55 - no 50MPH /120 Mile constraints and change the tyre when its convenient plus you need a jack for servicing .

When the puncture repair aerosols first came out , a tyre that had been repaired this way could not be permanently repaired with a conventional vulcanised repair. I'm told that this is no longer the case as the aerosol coating can be easily removed before a normal patch is applied. But what if the coating is not correctly removed ?

I ordered an Octavia Estate SE fairly recently and specified the full size spare wheel option . For me it was a no brainer a t £55 - no 50MPH /120 Mile constraints and change the tyre when its convenient plus you need a jack for servicing .

When the puncture repair aerosols first came out , a tyre that had been repaired this way could not be permanently repaired with a conventional vulcanised repair. I'm told that this is no longer the case as the aerosol coating can be easily removed before a normal patch is applied. But what if the coating is not correctly removed ?

It's not much of an issue with an Octavia estate thoguh as the boot is huge. The difference with the Yeti is that a spare eats up a fair amount of space so it's a more dificult decision.

perosnally I've ordered mine without a spare but it's a company car so tyre replacement and repair isn't much if an issue for me. The only risk to me is if I get a puncture while I'm out and about.

Compromize: Buy a jack to fit. It is not too expensive and will fit in the plastic toolwell already there. It will also allow you to take the wheel off and get it fixed elsewhere - but you then need a wrench too.

I am not convinced of the utility of the inflator gunk - but the little compressor works well.

I opted for the spare wheel after, and it does take boot space.

Anyone got the Skoda or VAG part number for a suitable Jack and tyre wrench?

Edited by Delboyyy

I don't know about the Yeti, but the instructions with the bottle of gloop that came with my Octavia Estate says nothing about having to jack the car. Similarly there is no such instruction in the owners handbook.

And to finish I would also recommend getting the spare wheel - its £55 well spent. My new Octavia did not have the spare (it was a UK Skoda stock car) so I had to buy the spare wheel and toolkit sperately and it came to over £160 in total.

This made me go outside and get the kit out of the car.

No mention of jacking it up. See below:

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tom

Anyone got the Skoda or VAG part number for a suitable Jack and tyre wrench?

Try a breaker's yard. My 1998 Passat TDI 110 jack and wrench fitted in the Yeti footwell perfectly.

tom

I ordered an Octavia Estate SE fairly recently and specified the full size spare wheel option . For me it was a no brainer a t £55 - no 50MPH /120 Mile constraints and change the tyre when its convenient plus you need a jack for servicing .

When the puncture repair aerosols first came out , a tyre that had been repaired this way could not be permanently repaired with a conventional vulcanised repair. I'm told that this is no longer the case as the aerosol coating can be easily removed before a normal patch is applied. But what if the coating is not correctly removed ?

I am sorry to disappoint you. If you purchase the Skoda supposed "full-sized Spare Wheel" for the Yeti, you will find that it is not actually full-sized at all but smaller, so the speed is restricted to 50mph, not sure if there is a distance limit but I would not want to travel far limited to 50mph and potentially have a problem with the differentials as the bearings are not designed to continually rotate all of the time but differentiate more occasionally. Also the chassis management and so on cannot be relied upon because it is already reading speed differences between wheels and axles.

My solution is to buy the same wheel tyre combination as on the other 4 corners.

Edited by Anthony 1

I am sorry to disappoint you. If you purchase the Skoda supposed "full-sized Spare Wheel" for the Yeti, you will find that it is not actually full-sized at all but smaller, so the speed is restricted to 50mph, not sure if there is a distance limit but I would not want to travel far limited to 50mph and potentially have a problem with the differentials as the bearings are not designed to continually rotate all of the time but differentiate more occasionally. Also the chassis management and so on cannot be relied upon because it is already reading speed differences between wheels and axles.

My solution is to buy the same wheel tyre combination as on the other 4 corners.

Am I correct in thinking that although it is not a full size spare it is also not a skinny space saver? I have ordered the spare because, as others have commented, if the tyre is gashed or shredded the repair goo will be of no use. With regards to the smaller spare wheel issue Anthony, would you agree that the best advice for those of us with two wheel drive Yetis would be to put the smaller spare wheel on one of the back wheels? I can't see it causing any diff trouble there when there isn't one.

With regards the original post, I have a can of tyreweld in the boot of my Smart (spare wheel not even an option and didn't even come with a repair kit!) and nowhere on the instructions does it say that you need to jack the car up first.

Am I correct in thinking that although it is not a full size spare it is also not a skinny space saver? I have ordered the spare because, as others have commented, if the tyre is gashed or shredded the repair goo will be of no use. With regards to the smaller spare wheel issue Anthony, would you agree that the best advice for those of us with two wheel drive Yetis would be to put the smaller spare wheel on one of the back wheels? I can't see it causing any diff trouble there when there isn't one.

With regards the original post, I have a can of tyreweld in the boot of my Smart (spare wheel not even an option and didn't even come with a repair kit!) and nowhere on the instructions does it say that you need to jack the car up first.

The "Full Sized Spare" is not a space saver type. It is a 16" Steel Wheel I have lost the tyre size and it is not to hand the new brochure that I have does not give the tyre size for the spare, only the rim size, it will be on the forum somewhere. I guess it will depend on what specification of car one orders but if it is an elegance 170 then the size is smaller than the 225/50R17 standard for that specification. Most of the images showing the spare have a 50 mph warning label stuck on the tyre. I would not like to advise what corner the "supposed full sized spare" is put on I would not be happy putting it on any corner I want a real sized spare in my boot, same wheel same tyre & size. What are they playing at, if one wanted a space save one would have asked for one, what we have here is neither one nor the other.

Their has to be a differential of sorts even in the front to allow for speed differences going around corners etc. There is defiantly a differential at the rear on 4x4 versions.

My wife had a Smart until recently. The Smart came with compressor and sealant.

Unfortunately on the occasion she did have a puncture, it was a gash in the sidewall.

The sealnt will not work on a gash so she still had to be helped to a garage.

In fact when the AA patrol came out to her, he asked her to follow him to a nearby tyre depot at low speed but on a flat tyre.

Fantastic!

John

Am I correct in thinking that although it is not a full size spare it is also not a skinny space saver? I have ordered the spare because, as others have commented, if the tyre is gashed or shredded the repair goo will be of no use. With regards to the smaller spare wheel issue Anthony, would you agree that the best advice for those of us with two wheel drive Yetis would be to put the smaller spare wheel on one of the back wheels? I can't see it causing any diff trouble there when there isn't one.

With regards the original post, I have a can of tyreweld in the boot of my Smart (spare wheel not even an option and didn't even come with a repair kit!) and nowhere on the instructions does it say that you need to jack the car up first.

Hi,

the spare wheel size can be found here in the guide My link.

Not seen the tyreweld stuff or Skoda kit but I was just wondering if the Yeti comes with an electric compressor and tyre weld? and the stuff that requires the wheel to be lifted is just in a pressurized canister?

Regards,

TP

Edited by The Plumber

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This made me go outside and get the kit out of the car.

No mention of jacking it up. See below:

4384542883_7e3962f1dc_b.jpg

tom

Thanks Sanqhar, very helpful.

The "Full Sized Spare" is not a space saver type. It is a 16" Steel Wheel I have lost the tyre size and it is not to hand the new brochure that I have does not give the tyre size for the spare, only the rim size, it will be on the forum somewhere. I guess it will depend on what specification of car one orders but if it is an elegance 170 then the size is smaller than the 225/50R17 standard for that specification. Most of the images showing the spare have a 50 mph warning label stuck on the tyre. I would not like to advise what corner the "supposed full sized spare" is put on I would not be happy putting it on any corner I want a real sized spare in my boot, same wheel same tyre & size. What are they playing at, if one wanted a space save one would have asked for one, what we have here is neither one nor the other.

Their has to be a differential of sorts even in the front to allow for speed differences going around corners etc. There is defiantly a differential at the rear on 4x4 versions.

Thanks Anthony. It is a shame that the spare is not the same size as the regular tyres. With two wheel drive versions there will be no diff at the rear and so that is probably the best place to put the spare if needed.

My wife had a Smart until recently. The Smart came with compressor and sealant.

Unfortunately on the occasion she did have a puncture, it was a gash in the sidewall.

The sealnt will not work on a gash so she still had to be helped to a garage.

In fact when the AA patrol came out to her, he asked her to follow him to a nearby tyre depot at low speed but on a flat tyre.

Fantastic!

John

You were lucky to get the sealant and compressor with your Smart John. It is an extra cost factory option for the latest (2007 onwards) fortwo models. Yeti drivers think that they have it bad.......

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