Went to a charity meet today in northallerton was a very good atmosphere and everybody was sound.

The remap on my car is by Chipped Uk, standard its 140bhp. i got the map done costing £210. Giving me 170bhp

I was unsure if it was running at the 170bhp. so....... i rolling roaded it which cost me £36 for 3 runs

the first run was 176bhp

second run was 169.8bhp

and the third run was 170.6 bhp with 289lbs of torque

so over all i was happy as i got what i paid for.

now the car has been running for 6 month at 170 bhp its now ready for the 220bhp hybrid turbo, i almost have enough funds for the work so ill be keeping people posted

That is a good value remap !

Nice one !

All the big companies charging £350 to £450 should watch out ! ( That's my opinion before anyone starts )

Edited 28 February, 201016 yr by InexEng

That is a good value remap !

Nice one !

All the big companys charging £350 to £450 should watch out ! ( That's my opinion before anyone starts )

well we know the guy normal price is £250 but he did me for £210 stiill fair price.

one question tho just to double check

the last run was 170.6bhp and 140.3bhp at the wheels. i know its probs a silly question but does that mean my car is still classed as 170bhp or because its 140bhp at wheels its classed as 140bhp?

obviously once this is cleared up by someone i know if the remap has worked.

Engine outputs are measured at the flywheel by convention

Engine outputs are measured at the flywheel by convention

so does that mean the remap aint worked? or does that mean before the remap the engine would have been for example 140bhp at engine and about 110bhp at wheels?

The manufacturer will always use the highest number they can. So yes, pre remap it would have been 140 at the flywheel and less at the wheels.

The manufacturer will always use the highest number they can. So yes, pre remap it would have been 140 at the flywheel and less at the wheels.

right i think i get it now, so the engine bhp is "fly wheel" bhp and wheels is obv the wheels. so my car therefor is 170bhp and remap is find and dandy.

Went to a charity meet today in northallerton was a very good atmosphere and everybody was sound.

The remap on my car is by Chipped Uk, standard its 140bhp. i got the map done costing £210. Giving me 170bhp

I was unsure if it was running at the 170bhp. so....... i rolling roaded it which cost me £36 for 3 runs

the first run was 176bhp

second run was 169.8bhp

and the third run was 170.6 bhp with 289lbs of torque

so over all i was happy as i got what i paid for.

now the car has been running for 6 month at 170 bhp its now ready for the 220bhp hybrid turbo, i almost have enough funds for the work so ill be keeping people posted

There are a lot of non remapped PD140's running that sort of power on accurate RR's.

I cant see it to be honest but possibly but, that could also be a reason I didnt notice a big improvement. But why would it be 140bHp and run at 170bhp.

The measurement of power is a bit of a mess really. There are UK horsepower (bhp, 746W), German horsepower (PS, 735W) and DynoJet horsepower (less than the other two). Also you can only measure the power at the wheels and so the losses between the engine and rollers can only be estimated and may be incorrect. It is misleading to make comparisons BETWEEN dynos. you should only make a comparison of power loss/gain on the SAME dyno. A lot of the figures you see quoted in magazines and on the web are very misleading. There will also be production tolerances on engines so some my output a bit more or less than the stated figure.

I suspect your car is outputting somewhere between 140 and 170PS, but hard for anyone to say exactly what!

Indeed, but the PD140's putting out around 170bhp have been at various RR's including the JKM one which has a reputation for being pretty accurate.

Indeed, but the PD140's putting out around 170bhp have been at various RR's including the JKM one which has a reputation for being pretty accurate.

so has my remap failed?

so has my remap failed?

Surely you must know. If you can't tell the difference when driving the car then it's not worth the money in the first place :(

so has my remap failed?

That completely depends on your before power/torque figures and your after figures.

If on the same RR you have a gain then no, if you have not gained at all or have not altered the curves in a way that makes the driving style more to your liking, then I guess the answer would be a yes.

Each engine is different, but as mentioned it's really down to if you're happy.

You will feel the 'before-and-after' effect of a decent re-map immediately. I had my vRS TFSI Revo'd and the difference was remarkable, and very obvious. Similarly my wife's Fabia II 1.9TDI was remapped by R-Tech from 105PS to a supposed 130PS (or thereabouts) - the gain was immediately obvious, as was the big increase in torque - the thing has real 'sling-shot' acceleration in 3rd gear!. If you are finding hard to detect the effect of the remap then there is something wrong!

All the big companies charging £350 to £450 should watch out ! ( That's my opinion before anyone starts )

For the extra you get a base rolling road print out, custom mapping and a tuned rolling road print out, plus proper diagnostics. A lot better than plug in, up load, f*ck off!

For the extra you get a base rolling road print out, custom mapping and a tuned rolling road print out, plus proper diagnostics. A lot better than plug in, up load, f*ck off!

To be fair, R-Tech charged less than half the price of my Revo remap and the service was better then the Revo dealer (although I am very happy with both maps). I think a lot of the bigger companies spend a lot on marketing - which has to be recovered from somewhere (the customer). Best thing is to go on feedback from past customers.

i thought it did feel nippyer, but i remapped it a week after owning it and before that i had a 2.0 turbo petrol with 225bhp. so thats why im unsure lads.

Why not post up the dyno/RR graph for all to see????

To be fair, R-Tech charged less than half the price of my Revo remap and the service was better then the Revo dealer (although I am very happy with both maps). I think a lot of the bigger companies spend a lot on marketing - which has to be recovered from somewhere (the customer). Best thing is to go on feedback from past customers.

I would never go to Revo anyway, they do seem over priced, and the gains they suggest are a bit odd (they seem to state that the car will have far more bhp/torques than when it left the factory, and then quote a higher "peak" figure for both, when really you gain about the same, or even less than other tuners... from what I've seen )

I would never go to Revo anyway, they do seem over priced, and the gains they suggest are a bit odd (they seem to state that the car will have far more bhp/torques than when it left the factory, and then quote a higher "peak" figure for both, when really you gain about the same, or even less than other tuners... from what I've seen )

Revo are certainly not cheap, but I had mine done a year or so ago when they had an 'offer'. I ended up paying about £400 for the Octy TFSI remap, versus the £200 that R-Tech charged me for the Fabia II 1.9TDI.

I am very happy with both. I tend to take BHP claims with a pinch of salt. My Revo'd TFSI is outstanding though, superb performance and a very broad spread of strong torque - there is no downside to the map at all. Fuel economy is also great. I have owned and driven virtually every type of car over the years (I spent a few decades in the motor trade, so in and out of cars all day every day) and the Revo'd Octy is honestly one of the best and most practical all-round cars I've ever experienced.

Hi, was the RR on Sunday, if so who was it with?. Was there any other Skodas there? I went on Saturday organised by SCN (Seat Cupra.net) and enjoyed it.

There is a long discussion on SCN on how accurate Motorscopes figures are, especially the difference between Wheel horsepower and engine horsepower. However the figures seamed to go a bit wired after lunch when a brand new Audi S3 4wd DSG when on, up until then it was believable figures.

so does that mean the remap aint worked? or does that mean before the remap the engine would have been for example 140bhp at engine and about 110bhp at wheels?

Sean, there is a lot of hysteria and miss understanding about remaps. The key thing as stated in many posts is that you WILL know if the remap has had an effect on your car. Chipped UKs maps are very drivable and your speed will spool up much more quickly.

I run one of their maps, via the V-Switch system they sell which costs an extra £100 for the V-Switch but lets you load their maps or reload your original map at home.

I had my car RR'd at Linden Special Vehicles - a well respected race outfit in Wellingborough. Standard car ran 145bhp on a properly calibrated RR, though I did not get a printout as I only paid for 2 runs and wanted the 2 maps Chipped supplied tested. Printout below shows the gains from their maps over standard on the SAME rollers and I would expect you would have had the map labled Fast Road as that is their standard PD140 map.

The result is an incredably smooth drive with a significant increase in acceleration without any drop in overal MPG

For the extra you get a base rolling road print out, custom mapping and a tuned rolling road print out, plus proper diagnostics. A lot better than plug in, up load, f*ck off!

I have had exactly that level of service from Performance Torque, for £260 (with return customer discount or GB pricing )

As you can see from the graphs I found there is a variation on the stock figure and some unmodified cars run more, some less.

There are obviously other factors that come into it, but it shows that just because an RR shows 170 on a PD140 doesn't mean that anything was done.

Stock PD140:

Stock PD170's:

Stock Passat PD130

Edited 3 March, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai