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Shark performance stage 1

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stage 1 remap, no other additional mods. std R32 made its factory stated output, and another stage 1 car there made similar ouput, so results seem accurate enough

good results IMO. the power output isnt peaky instead it gives a nice plateau of power from 5k onwards with peak torque coming in at 3k. dyno operator commentedon intake air temps being high on the second run and the car had a bit of heat soak, hence the slight drop in power on the second run. intercooler next me thinks

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here are the logs for anyone ho is interested.

Dyno's cant replicate on road conditions such as the increased MAF etc when your moving at 'speed'.

For guys not to sure what their looking at here, he important things are there is very little timing pull on the cylinders, which is a positive. The fuel pressure is meeting requested throughout the entire RPM, and is well below the maximum possible ouput of the HPFP, so there is NO hint of fuel cuts etc that has been common on other tuners remaps.

And the MAF reading on the road is a very healthy 195g/s on average peaking at 205g/s.

using the Ross tech guide of MAF/0.8 to work out a rough HP, it confirms the car is pulling good power on the road :thumbup:

the only issue being the inlet air temps rising throughout the pulls. An intercooler would be a good mod for that.

run 1

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run 2

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run 3

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run 4

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and some pretty pics for you guys :thumbup:

Lambda/AFR

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MAF

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rough hp calc(maf/ 0.8.)

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boost

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Fuel rail pressure

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That looks a real nice power curve emoticon-0148-yes.gif, the rest means not a lot to me .

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feels really strong on the road at the top end as well.

I know what you mean about the logs, I stuck them up for guys who are into that sort of thing to and to show how the remap is being consrvative and not asking to much from the car. plus its handy for guys to compare when they log their own cars.

I reckon with an intakes she will be pushing for 250Hp with an even better plateau of power.

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Have you got any plans as to which route you will take for the intercooler (twintercooler or s3 type), and which mods are next on your shopping list.

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intercooler wise rob an S3 cooler, although im considering an engin swap as its less £/Hp to put a k04 lump in than it would be to tune the k03

It looks pretty similar to my Stage 1 print out. However when mine was done. It was to find a where I was leaking boostemoticon-0183-swear.gif At some points I was 7psi down on boost on requested and actual boost made. Though it still made 236bhp on R Techs rollers in Leicester. I havent had it back on the rolling road since I fixed it and have fitted a BSH intake. I can confirn that it pulls better from idle up to the redline with the intake fitted on the stage 1 map. I am going to put the car back on the same rolling road to see what it produces? I would estimate around 250bhp as Sy had mentioned. I still cannot believe this car.....all that power and a 38mpg return emoticon-0100-smile.gif

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have you logged your car by any chance. id be interested to hear what you make with the BSH and stage 1 map :thumbup: was an octy with a jabba custom map wih neuspeed intake who made 247hp, but it was alot more peaky tan this. torque was near identical although mine came in 500Rpm earlier.

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have you logged your car by any chance. id be interested to hear what you make with the BSH and stage 1 map :thumbup: was an octy with a jabba custom map wih neuspeed intake who made 247hp, but it was alot more peaky tan this. torque was near identical although mine came in 500Rpm earlier.

that'd be me emoticon-0148-yes.gif. Sean logged the intake for me after you left and it would appear i may need a new MAF which would explain the intermittent errors i seem to be getting. i will scan in mine for comparison if you like?

regards,

mike

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that'd be me emoticon-0148-yes.gif. Sean logged the intake for me after you left and it would appear i may need a new MAF which would explain the intermittent errors i seem to be getting. i will scan in mine for comparison if you like?

regards,

mike

dont put it in this thread though, this is in the shark perfomance section :thumbup: start a new thread in the octy II forum for discussion without spamming this up to much:thumbup:

Looks interesting, but should boost tail off at the top-end when its being specified to remain fairly level? The gap widens from 5000rpm - could be deliberate to preserve the top-end from boost surge / spikes?

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Looks interesting, but should boost tail off at the top-end when its being specified to remain fairly level? The gap widens from 5000rpm - could be deliberate to preserve the top-end from boost surge / spikes?

my N75 duty cycle is spot on so it seems so im guessing intentional :thumbup:

have you logged your car by any chance. id be interested to hear what you make with the BSH and stage 1 map emoticon-0148-yes.gif was an octy with a jabba custom map wih neuspeed intake who made 247hp, but it was alot more peaky tan this. torque was near identical although mine came in 500Rpm earlier.

No I havent logged my car, as I havent got Vag com etc to do it. Though I will ask R Tech when I go if they could produce some logs for me.

asking for 1.1 bar and only getting 0.9 after 5k ???

how is this intentional?? requested would fall also if it was??

my N75 duty cycle is spot on so it seems so im guessing intentional :thumbup:

Do you have a graph with Specified/Requested boost and N75? If so stick it up.

I'm also confused why its requesting something that it will never get. :wonder:

That doesn't look too shabby at all, Sy.

Interesting to see that your map is requesting the full 110 bar of rail pressure midrange as is available on the stock HPFP yet my Shark Stage 3 is only requesting 102 bar of the available 130 on an Autotech HPFP. I need to catch up with Ben on that one.

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That doesn't look too shabby at all, Sy.

Interesting to see that your map is requesting the full 110 bar of rail pressure midrange as is available on the stock HPFP yet my Shark Stage 3 is only requesting 102 bar of the available 130 on an Autotech HPFP. I need to catch up with Ben on that one.

the std HPFP can flow upto 130bar i believe but not low down in the RPM range hence the issue of fuel cts on some maps. upgrading the pump as you have done should allow you to run the full 130bar accross the entire rpm range. there will be alot of power available if yours requests the full 130bar

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run 1 and 4 have the N75 and boost on them. there is nothing graphed up, and i kinda cant be bother to do it now :giggle:

Looking good! Logs look perfect too. Top stuff!

Kev

That doesn't look too shabby at all, Sy.

Interesting to see that your map is requesting the full 110 bar of rail pressure midrange as is available on the stock HPFP yet my Shark Stage 3 is only requesting 102 bar of the available 130 on an Autotech HPFP. I need to catch up with Ben on that one.

Don't forget with the HPFP you're increasing flow as well.. Easy example is if you've got 2 turbos on the same engine, one little, one large, both at 1bar of boost.. The small one cant flow much, even though it makes 1bar of boost so makes lower power than the bigger turbo with a higher flow rate for the same boost pressure..

If the car doesn't need 130Bar i see no point running it, you're only increasing the load on the cam lobe and follower, I'm sure Ben follows this work practice also...

Kev

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