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Worn brake discs at 1st service

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Is it front or rear?

Have a check for pitting on the surface and if they are then that's not great, but it's not unheard of on very low mileage cars.

Fronts only mate. I am waiting on Skoda CC getting back to me. I do know that when I received the car last year, the discs looked rusty, that was brand new, obviously had been sitting about a yard for a while, never thought much about it, but I’d say to anyone who sees rusty discs gets juddering on their brakes on their brand new car to get it checked out ASAP. Don’t wait for the first year service!

I will keep everybody informed as to Skoda’s official reply.

My LCR first set of pads lasted 8k and the disks 20k from brand new:S I started to take it a bit easier then but the pads normally lasted 10k and the disks not much more than 20k:doh:

The consequence of friction material being asbestos free.

When the pads are made of metal as well as the disc, then the friction material is going to eat the disk over time.

I am 51 years old and i was taught that when approaching a junction, roundabout or anything else which means you have to slow down or stop you initially used your gears to begin slowing down and the brakes and gears assisted the slowing /stopping process togehter.

I understand that the modern "economic" way to slow down or stop is mainly using your brakes and dropping into neutral (personally i hate it because of lack of control) .

Naturally the increased brake usage will increase brake disc and pad wear this on top of the change to pad content will shorten your brake disc and pad's lives.

I am 51 years old and i was taught that when approaching a junction, roundabout or anything else which means you have to slow down or stop you initially used your gears to begin slowing down and the brakes and gears assisted the slowing /stopping process togehter.

I understand that the modern "economic" way to slow down or stop is mainly using your brakes and dropping into neutral (personally i hate it because of lack of control) .

Naturally the increased brake usage will increase brake disc and pad wear this on top of the change to pad content will shorten your brake disc and pad's lives.

Billy what about getting a brand new VRS with rusty discs, then developing shuddering at 4-5K, only to be told that the discs need replaced at 7.6K? I think the material of these discs is not up to spec, certainly not a patch on my Mk I VRS ventilated discs, speaking to guys at work, seems that cheaper material is coming into discs these days, compared to days of old, In-built obsolence? who knows? FWIW I use my gears for breaking too!

Made in China?

It's like the mini's before a certain reg didn't have huge rust issues, then around b reg the country of origin of the steel changed and they rusted like anything.

Another change and the problem went again.

Billy what about getting a brand new VRS with rusty discs, then developing shuddering at 4-5K, only to be told that the discs need replaced at 7.6K? I think the material of these discs is not up to spec, certainly not a patch on my Mk I VRS ventilated discs, speaking to guys at work, seems that cheaper material is coming into discs these days, compared to days of old, In-built obsolence? who knows? FWIW I use my gears for breaking too!

Mine is due (at the moment) some time after build week 31 so one of the things i will check is if it has rusty discs, if they are i will object very very loudly.

My front disks were corroded from new and were replaced under warranty. Apparently this is a common issue with VAG vehicles - something to do with the metal composition. DO NOT pay for this work to be carried out as there is no way on Gods green earth that disks should need replacing at 7K unless you spend half your waking hours on a racetrack!

My father has a Fiat Panda Sporting 1.3 Multijet and the main dealer in Welling and I had to have a "conversation" after they replaced his pads and disks because they were "worn out" at 9K. Bear in mind my old man is over 80 and genuinly does not drive in a "spirited manner"........needless to say they refunded the money once I started talking trading Standards:-)

Above quote from my 1st year service cost thread. Seems like the stories about VAG material composition of discs has some credence.

I am 51 years old and i was taught that when approaching a junction, roundabout or anything else which means you have to slow down or stop you initially used your gears to begin slowing down and the brakes and gears assisted the slowing /stopping process togehter.

I understand that the modern "economic" way to slow down or stop is mainly using your brakes and dropping into neutral (personally i hate it because of lack of control) .

Naturally the increased brake usage will increase brake disc and pad wear this on top of the change to pad content will shorten your brake disc and pad's lives.

I'm 47, and was taught to use the brakes to slow down, but change down the gears at the same road speeds I'd change up at back in the 1980s.

What I do now is remain in the gear I was in when I started braking, and block shift down once round about the end of my braking phase. I have never heard anyone competent advocating braking in neutral (incidentally, it doesn't save fuel, because the over-run cutoff doesn't with the engine idling in neutral).

Big hip hip hooray for Skoda Customer Services: :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Skoda are paying for my discs & brake pads, and labour for fitting.

Another notch up the JD power customer satisfaction scale for them from me.

Is your car DSG boxed, because I've read somewhere that DSG boxed (read Automatic) cars have slightly heavier wear on both discs & pads. Can someone confirm or deny this please.

Have my August 2006 Octavia 2.0 Tdi DSG sitting with 75K on the clock and have neither replaced discs or pads, that is unless Mr SKODA has replaced them and not informed me or maybe forgotten to invoice me !

I'm 47, and was taught to use the brakes to slow down, but change down the gears at the same road speeds I'd change up at back in the 1980s.

Well I'm 50, and I was also taught to slow down with the slowing down mechanism (brakes). It seems there must have been a change in teaching methods and we were the right side of it. :giggle:

When all is said and done; breaking with brakes wears out brakes, "breaking" with gears wears out clutches. Clutches are dearer than brake friction materials. You choose.

Well I'm 50, and I was also taught to slow down with the slowing down mechanism (brakes). It seems there must have been a change in teaching methods and we were the right side of it. :giggle:

When all is said and done; breaking with brakes wears out brakes, "breaking" with gears wears out clutches. Clutches are dearer than brake friction materials. You choose.

I'm 27 going on 50 :giggle: , I can see the road and it's conditions ahead (it's not like the junction is a surprise), I can take my foot off the accelerator and allow the vehicle to naturally slow towards a junction, during which time, I can judge which gear would be most suited to my next action, or apply the brakes to stop if necessary.

No clutch wear if you match the engine speed and road speed for the gear you are selecting (or double de-clutch if you want to be old school), and minimal brake wear as you only use them if you absolutley have to.

Everybody is in such a rush these days, hard acceleration, hard braking, Relax!! :rofl:

Top beans that Skoda are paying for the discs and pads, rightly so!

My Toledo had its front discs replaced at 30K and the rears at 36K both with pads, in each case they were definitely needed.

John

For what its worth the front discs on my Volvo are visibly worn and scored after 45000 miles and that's mainly out of town driving, main dealer says replace, but another garage reckoned they will pass an MOT. I think discs do wear out quicker these days, don't know if its asbestos free pads or just that cars are faster and heavier than 20 years ago. MOT is now a lot stricter on disc pitting and corrosion than it used to be I think too.

I remember my 1st Octy, Mk1 1.9tdi needed brakes and discs at about 20,000mls. They had started juddering, this was done under warranty and then done again several 1000 mls later as the fault returned!

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