I have a Dec 2009 59 plate Octavia 1.6 CR "S", It has just been in for its first service at 20,000 miles on a varible service (quite good i thought). While the car was in for service i was rung and told the brakes pads needed changing as they were close to the sensor and the discs had quite a bit of wear but should be ok till the next serrvice.

Is it normal to get "quite a bit of wear" on the discs before the brake pads get to the change sensor? and how many miles should you get from brake discs?

I should add that although i do high milage i always get my cars serviced at the dealers and no one else drives it. I do tend to nurse it a little but do alot of town milage so it didn't surprise me that the pads were worn.

Thanks in advance

Kyle

I have a Dec 2009 59 plate Octavia 1.6 CR "S", It has just been in for its first service at 20,000 miles on a varible service (quite good i thought). While the car was in for service i was rung and told the brakes pads needed changing as they were close to the sensor and the discs had quite a bit of wear but should be ok till the next serrvice.

Is it normal to get "quite a bit of wear" on the discs before the brake pads get to the change sensor? and how many miles should you get from brake discs?

I should add that although i do high milage i always get my cars serviced at the dealers and no one else drives it. I do tend to nurse it a little but do alot of town milage so it didn't surprise me that the pads were worn.

Thanks in advance

Kyle

Seems nuts to me. My dad had 180000 miles from his Volvo and the disks were fine. I've had a few cars with 60k on the clock and never had a problem with disks. Are modern cars doing something to eat disks ?

Has the pad or disk material changed ?

mmm.... http://www.automotoportal.com/article/modern-car-brake-discs-warp-judder-and-wear-out-faster

Edited 17 June, 201015 yr by Nick_H

It seems very early for both , I ,get about 75000 miles on the pads ,with the discs only 45% worn

yeah, there pulling your man sausage, I'd say no thanks and take your car elsewhere next time

The dealer I use have been very good with after sales service in the past. With the service they even said that they had refunded the pollen filter from the invoice as it didn't need replacing, sounds quite honest to me.

The dealer I use is also right near the top of the list of dealers in this forum.

Why don't you measure the pad and disc thickness yourself? tell us what they measure and Briskoda will be the Jury.

I have in the past seen my dad get over 80k out of a set of pads and on his last car 60 k on a set of disks and pads.

However I have just had to replace the disks and pads on my mk1 vrs @ 44k not due to them wearing out but due to the fact that the harsh winter and all the salt on the road has seen them off.

also it is worth remembering that break pads no longer have asbestos in them so the compound is harder and will "eat" the disks and this is why disk are now being replaced at the same time as pads and more often

288mm discs are 25mm new, 23mm worn out.

To be fair if they say they will last to the next service that means you've got another 20'000 miles on it.

If you do a lot of town driving then 40-50k out of a set of discs isn't that dreadful

288mm discs are 25mm new, 23mm worn out.

To be fair if they say they will last to the next service that means you've got another 20'000 miles on it.

If you do a lot of town driving then 40-50k out of a set of discs isn't that dreadful

Or maybe fobbing the OP off so as the warranty could be expired and he would have to pay for them?

Would warranty cover them now?

"With the service they even said that they had refunded the pollen filter from the invoice as it didn't need replacing"

So it's the old invoice first and do the work afterwards, trick.

Why would you invoice for a new filter before even looking at it.

I don't think I'll ever understand the economics of the motor industry. If only I could run my business the same way!

Mine went in for it's first 'free' service earlier this month. Apparently, because I took it to the local dealer and not the other end of the country (where I bought it from), they spent half a day deciding whether or not to actually do it.

Subaru are exactly the same, they have authorised dealers and connected to a national network, but when it comes to actually doing something, the system just fails. With the Subaru, the 'free service' nearly didn't happen as our car hadn't even been put on the system - if only government worked as well - whoops, it does.

My 2009 VRS has fairly worn disks at 30K, pads are fine.

I think they have put some really tough pads on to some soft disks.

I change my front pads every 20,000, and the rears every 30, at my 120,000 service all discs where changed for the first time, taxi work eats pads, and even though there is still some pad left on the fronts I don't want any down time due to them wearing out at the wrong moment, and carrying passengers its better to be safe than sorry

While I am posting whats the 1.6 like to drive and the economy

Or maybe fobbing the OP off so as the warranty could be expired and he would have to pay for them?

Would warranty cover them now?

Disks and pads are not covered by warranty, so no.

Personally I think they are just doing what they do, which is work on the assumption that in terms of maintenance most people won't even look at the car until the next service.

As such they warn early, rather than saying well you've got about 5k left on them, purely because they won't see it for 20k and if they don't say something they may leave themselves open to being sued.

My pads and discs were replaced on my first 20K service and they were very worn as i inspected them before i gave them the go ahead.

1.9TDi.Rears have just been done now at 37K.

I change my front pads every 20,000, and the rears every 30, at my 120,000 service all discs where changed for the first time, taxi work eats pads, and even though there is still some pad left on the fronts I don't want any down time due to them wearing out at the wrong moment, and carrying passengers its better to be safe than sorry

While I am posting whats the 1.6 like to drive and the economy

Sounds like its normal but still appears a little poor to me but....

The 1.6 CR gets me on average 50-60MPG mainly around town so good me thinks, as i said earlier in thread, i do nurse it around a bit.

Thanks for all the info boys and girls

Kyle

Is your car DSG boxed, because I've read somewhere that DSG boxed (read Automatic) cars have slightly heavier wear on both discs & pads. Can someone confirm or deny this please.

The octy I had before my superb was still on its original disks and pads at 92,000 miles. Both still had plenty of life left. It seems quiet common for dealers to suggest that disks and pads need changing at a service, even if they dont need it as they are a good source of additional money. After all the general punter will take as said, because the disks and pads are usually hidden behind the wheels, and they assume that they must need changing on someone elses word.

The octy I had before my superb was still on its original disks and pads at 92,000 miles. Both still had plenty of life left. It seems quiet common for dealers to suggest that disks and pads need changing at a service, even if they dont need it as they are a good source of additional money. After all the general punter will take as said, because the disks and pads are usually hidden behind the wheels, and they assume that they must need changing on someone elses word.

Yes, I've heard that too, and also the general punter isn't likely to put off something as critical as brakes.

I can understand pads being worn, but surely the only reason disks would be worn at such low mileage is if the pads were gone completely and were rubbing on the disks.

Evening Star,

As a long term (30+ years) owner of automatics I can confirm that they do wear pads faster than a manual. The reason is that you are usually driving on the brakes a lot more.

However the OP reports disks are reported as wearing @ a 20K service. This may be rubbish unless the wrong pads were used (or Skoda disks are rubbish). The shortest time I've had to replace disks (not pads) on an automatic I've owned previously was a Vauxhall at 86K miles (apart from one disk that had been damaged by a stone somehow getting stuck between the pad and disk and scoring it badly but that doesn't really count).

Having said that, I understand there can be a problem with cars that constantly do short trips. The inevitable surface corrosion on the disks is more frequent, and this can lead to premature wear as the pads scrub it off. Or something like that. Somebody else may be able to confirm or deny that.

Edited 20 June, 201015 yr by Minimoke

Boys first year service, have been told I need to replace pads and discs (corroded), car has been shuddering under breaking. Milage - 7500 miles. Yes you read that correctly - 7.5K! Been told by Skoda Customer services they will look into it, but I am not covered, discs are generally not part of warranty after 6000 miles. I actually dont mind pads, but discs at 7.5K! Holey Moley.

Iain on his post is quite right. Brake pads no longer contain asbestos. Back then, the pads wore, but not the discs. Nowadays, it doesn't seem to take much to wear the discs out as well. Only consolation, is that back in the asbestos days, discs were mega expensive as there wasn't much call for them.

Only answer is to drive with anticipation, which will help to reduce brake wear. Anyone who drives old cars or old bikes, (pre disc brakes),will know what I mean. Anyone who drives something really old, especially pre war Austin 7's, will know that the brakes are only for an emergency anyway!

Boys first year service, have been told I need to replace pads and discs (corroded), car has been shuddering under breaking. Milage - 7500 miles. Yes you read that correctly - 7.5K! Been told by Skoda Customer services they will look into it, but I am not covered, discs are generally not part of warranty after 6000 miles. I actually dont mind pads, but discs at 7.5K! Holey Moley.

Sounds like you need to give it a few hard stops from 70mph to 10mph to see if you can't clean that rust off the disc surface.

Cheeze, I have tried that to no avail when I first got the shuddering, I guess due to the corrosion on the discs.

Cheeze, I have tried that to no avail when I first got the shuddering, I guess due to the corrosion on the discs.

Is it front or rear?

Have a check for pitting on the surface and if they are then that's not great, but it's not unheard of on very low mileage cars.

See herefor my story on this issue, still awaiting a response from Skoda UK, but not holding out much hope.